Mercedes faces suit over Perth bus fires
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From http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/18318717/legal-action-on-gas-bus-fires/:
The State Government has launched extraordinary legal action against Mercedes-Benz and two other companies, arguing Perth's gas-powered buses were unsafe for passengers and people near them.
The Supreme Court writ, lodged by the Public Transport Authority this week after a series of fires on the buses, claims the OC 500 LE model buses failed to meet safety, design and longevity requirements.
The PTA alleges manufacturers Mercedes and Volgren and supplier Evobus were negligent and breached their duty of care in designing and building buses that were not "reasonably safe to those travelling upon or within the vicinity of those motor buses".
The writ, which has not yet been served, also claims Mercedes breached its contract and that Mercedes and Evobus engaged in "misleading and deceptive conduct".
There were three major fires on the OC500 LE buses in Perth between December and March, taking the total to 14 in five years.
No one was seriously hurt in the fires and the buses are still on the road after the PTA developed a series of engine-bay modifications, including an improved fire- suppression system.
The OC500 LE model, which is powered by compressed natural gas and operates only in Perth and Sydney, was added to the Transperth fleet in 2005. The buses now carry about 35 million passengers a year.
PTA managing director Mark Burgess said negotiations were continuing with Mercedes.
He said the writ was filed to safeguard against any possible expiry of limitation periods for claims.
A Mercedes spokesman said the matters were being investigated and it would be inappropriate to comment further.
Former transport minister Alannah MacTiernan said yesterday she had been "locked in" to using Mercedes-Benz as the supplier for the buses when Labor won government in 2001.
"The previous government had entered into a contract with Mercedes-Benz to supply diesel-powered buses," she said. "We were concerned about using diesel, particularly in the inner-city, and wanted to use gas instead.
"We were locked into the contract but Mercedes-Benz told us they could deliver high-quality gas-powered buses."
Earlier this year, MacTiernan admitted that there were BETTER companies out there besides Mercedes-Benz. Current contract signed by Barnett Coalition Government is with Volvo Group, but nothing beats a SCANIA (especially the N113CRB).
Diesels have been used in Singapore without issue. There is no reason why others can't do it the way we have done.
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So... Singapore SMRT OCs got risk?
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
So... Singapore SMRT OCs got risk?
don't think so
our OCs are fine since they are diesel powered not CNG
if the KUBs are powered by CNG, it would be great ...
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Mercedes buses are dangerous! Always catch fire. Better avoid those Citaros and OCs
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
Mercedes buses are dangerous! Always catch fire. Better avoid those Citaros and OCs
Then those ppl living where only a service with all Citaros how?Ask them to walk to mrt or wait for KUB cameos?
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
Mercedes buses are dangerous! Always catch fire. Better avoid those Citaros and OCs
Morons like you should have your EQ and IQ checked, the stupidity level of some of you guys are "amazing". Never fail to amaze some of us. Keep it up! -
Heehee,Very funny that guy ah Charles,A few OCs Cng caught fire doesn't mean all Mercedes engines are dangerous and fire prone.Toyota Wish year 06-08 also catch fire every time I see but does it mean the car are fire prone?
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Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
Morons like you should have your EQ and IQ checked, the stupidity level of some of you guys are "amazing". Never fail to amaze some of us. Keep it up!....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... -
Originally posted by bus_warrior:
....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\...Heyhey... Watch who you're pointing THAT at.
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
Mercedes buses are dangerous! Always catch fire. Better avoid those Citaros and OCs
Then why TIBS bought the O405s (MB Buses) and no fire. They even got a step further and bought the O405Gs (MB again). Stop talking crock. Then Svc 985 how? Scrap all Citaros, go tell SMRT la.
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Originally posted by OMSI123:
Then why TIBS bought the O405s (MB Buses) and no fire. They even got a step further and bought the O405Gs (MB again). Stop talking crock.
The O405Gs did keep on catching fire.
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\...Put in your ass first.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
The O405Gs did keep on catching fire.
Oh yeah, namely 900K. But not as biggass as OCs in AU. Some overheat because of failure to clean up properly. Provided SMRT takes are as good as AU, then it wouldn't have caught on fire so easily.
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Originally posted by OMSI123:
Oh yeah, namely 900K. But not as biggass as OCs in AU. Some overheat because of failure to clean up properly. Provided SMRT takes are as good as AU, then it wouldn't have caught on fire so easily.
TIB1074M almost whole bus...
TIB1110S whole bus became skeleton...
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
TIB1074M almost whole bus...
TIB1110S whole bus became skeleton...
Yes. The one at Circuit Rd was terrible.
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Those mentioned caught fire because of the BCs negligence on basic first parade duty.Diesel do consume water too.If everyday you drive nvr bother to check radiator I'm not surprised the engine will dry up and caught fire especially the older type.Secondary maintenance issue..The O405s series is known to be super reliable world wide.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Those mentioned caught fire because of the BCs negligence on basic first parade duty.Diesel do consume water too.If everyday you drive nvr bother to check radiator I'm not surprised the engine will dry up and caught fire especially the older type.Secondary maintenance issue..The O405s series is known to be super reliable world wide.
Yes, I know about the O405s, but the B10Ms are also in the same class. Hence the passionate Volvo vs Mercedes debate that happens so often. But then again, Scania (N113) is Queen of them all.
If anything, King Loong should face a lawsuit over the explosion that resulted in the death of a bus driver, but that has not happened.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Those mentioned caught fire because of the BCs negligence on basic first parade duty.Diesel do consume water too.If everyday you drive nvr bother to check radiator I'm not surprised the engine will dry up and caught fire especially the older type.Secondary maintenance issue..The O405s series is known to be super reliable world wide.
That is what I was trying to point out in my previous post.
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\...Lai lai.... come i clap for you... so next time if ppl praise you rmb to point middle finger hor!!
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of course Mercedes-Benz is the overall speaking the best. those jokers in Australia seems not up to standard enough to use a proper original m-b bus, instead use only m-b bus-chassi only yet expect so much want to make so much noise ! diesel is good enough no real need to bother too much about ngv due to overall practical issues. if ngv concept is really superior to diesel, then m-b would have got rid of diesel long ago, of course this is not so. they want 2 or 3rd class junk then go settle for scania bus-chassis only..perhaps that's good enough to suit their inferior standards. if they use m-b then make sure it's m-b all the way..entire bus & operational & service maintenance all up to original German standard.. Otherwise might as well they sue themselves for making inferior decision to use sub-standard 3rd party sources instead of just 1 original supplier with reputation second to none in the entire automotive industry !
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Correct, Theyre cheapskate freeloaders bunch