SMB388S: SBST must improve bus comfort
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Comfort and ambience is something SBS Transit should really take a good look at for their new buses. Even though there are the modern low floor wheelchair accessible buses, the fleet's interior, ambience/sound and seat covers comfort pales in comparison to SMRT Buses new fleet.
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I only find OC500LE comfortable in the new SMRT bus fleet, but don't really like the noise from the engine.
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Changing bus from the Scania K230UB (Euro IV) to the MAN NL323F is like suddenly, you stopped making your ride uncomfortable - especially when both buses are on services that plies the same stretch of road to your destination and they are back to back. >.<
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Similarly, changing bus from the MAN NL323F to the Wrights is like suddenly, you stopped making your ride uncomfortable?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
I only find OC500LE comfortable in the new SMRT bus fleet, but don't really like the noise from the engine.
I like the OC sound though, I find it better than the MAN turbo whistle which can get annoying after a long ride.
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Maybe each pair of seats in the bus should have a remote control for the passengers to adjust the aircon flow and temperature - like that no need people stuff tissues to the outlet to restrict flow of cold air =XInfo from BIS most popular page on Singapore Buses~
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The folding seat option fitted at the wheelchair bay of SMRT Buses MAN and Citaro is a good choice - maximising seats in the bus or standing space when it's not used.
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Sometimes weather too hot, we pull both adjustable aircon outlets and blow cold air to ourselves: p
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Comfort or jerky BCs play a part.Ive learn from an old Uncle the technique of smooth braking and accelerate for heavy vehicles during my SBST/SMRT stint.Not boasting here but I can make the Lance a smooth ride although the buses is notorious for surging gear changes.SBST DM3500s is notorious for jerky brakes but hell yes I can smoothly brake even I enter the bus stop like mad cow
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MAN bus by smrt one of the best since TIBS days when japanese buses on the road. SBST best bus is the old Benz 0350 DD buses and 0450 single decker buses, the worst was those non air-con old leyland DD buses in the 80s alway rocking when moving off or stop at traffic light. KUB bus is the worst new bus. Don't know why SBST not go for volvo single deck bus? too costly?
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No bus is a poor/bad bus~ TBH, it really lies on how skillful the driver is. I've rode on SMB1338E 962, and was kinda shocked that this driver, happens to be a China driver, was able to drive smoothly~ He did chiong along the way, but when he's stopping, there isn't any sudden brake feeling
There's also a few other drivers whom I've encountered, they do drive smoothly. So far, my BEST experience was on his ride(more than 2 times alr). Somehow or rather, I felt that the bus training wasn't good enough for most of the driver, and that they usually tend to switch between models. I suspect this resulted them to understand lesser on the model he/she's driving.
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SBST sometimes air-con not cool and sometimes the citaro so hot and driver still wear jacket, dont know why.
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It feels like
SMRT Buses - "Let's purchase buses that is as smooth, quiet, comfortable and not vibrating like our MRT trainsets"
SBS Transit - "Let's purchase buses that just works. Don't care anything else as long as it's cost effective."
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Originally posted by SMB388S:
It feels like
SMRT Buses - "Let's purchase buses that is as smooth, quiet, comfortable and not vibrating like our MRT trainsets"
SBS Transit - "Let's purchase buses that just works. Don't care anything else as long as it's cost effective."
YUP... SBST buy so many lousy buses... KUBssssss -
They maybe lousy but in other way they're reliable and not fuel guzzlers as the Citaros.SBST style is practical and economical and in other way they're more efficient in schedulings and deployments unlike SMRT wanna style big time but end up don't give much priorities to their own buses.Amdep already bursting yet sit down do nothin dun wanna invest a bigger depot.Must wait LTA built a AMK bus park then they happy,Wtf!
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and somemore... rts like 700, 963 all end up suspect making losses one... cos all throw MAN and not thinking of bigger capacity buses... so clock distance all the way to Shenton Way or HarbourFront... only to push empty buses back...
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Simple,They dun pay more attention to cash cow service like 700,963 but end up greedily wanna routes like RWS8.171 can shorten to BPJ already and those 531,971E should operate full days instead.End up kapo some bus from some Svc here and there.178 can shorten BBT looping at BNL Liao.927 crowded every peak hours yet only 3 buses are running end up pax kao pei.961 can shortened to New bridge rd Liao cause Many SBST buses duplicate to the eastern side.854 give Wldep a portion now end up bad scheduling cause Wldep suka suka deploy SDs and newbies on bendies duty blocks.Im puzzled why in sgwiki they put 187 got 25 buses when during certain times bus came like 12-16 mins during peaks?
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187 is bunching up... too much.
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178 on the other hand is trigger happy Svc,Suka2 Siam bus stops.Ive seen Chinaman Siam bus stops along Woodlands Rd where there are a couple of pax flag the bus..From the era of 12,13,14 and now 16 buses also the same attitude.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Simple,They dun pay more attention to cash cow service like 700,963 but end up greedily wanna routes like RWS8.171 can shorten to BPJ already and those 531,971E should operate full days instead.End up kapo some bus from some Svc here and there.178 can shorten BBT looping at BNL Liao.927 crowded every peak hours yet only 3 buses are running end up pax kao pei.961 can shortened to New bridge rd Liao cause Many SBST buses duplicate to the eastern side.854 give Wldep a portion now end up bad scheduling cause Wldep suka suka deploy SDs and newbies on bendies duty blocks.Im puzzled why in sgwiki they put 187 got 25 buses when during certain times bus came like 12-16 mins during peaks?
Tbh I dont understand why RWS8 is under SMRT in the 1st place if only just to go from Telok Blangah Rd to RWS. Its like a shuttle bus already
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Sevice 189 usually very good frequency, SMRT manage 189 very well. (13 buses is enough.)
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So SMRT should buy 150 MANdys quickly so people more comfortable on busy services~
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
Sevice 189 usually very good frequency, SMRT manage 189 very well. (13 buses is enough.)
Ya.. Usually because ppl go West Coast Market buy things then go back to Clementi Stn.. (most ppl did it) -
Problem w/ 189 is only that leg has better demand during off peak... lol
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So sbst275 you suggest that SMRT Svc all convert peak hours?