Miscellaneous Topics on Buses
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
LTA did annouce that they will built two mega integrated depots at Woodlands and Xilin Ave..So i assume the north side will replace Wldep and the eastern will replace Bndep in future?
the mega depot scheme looks quite grand with such huge MRT depot + big bus depot. From the looks of it, even in future LTA is expecting buses will have huge demand in spite of so many MRT lines.
I think LTA/Singapore is just preparing for population explosion.
For instance, Marina South / Marina South Pier kind of MRT stops do not have anything much around it today but I think a parallel CBD kind of complex will come here in future to bring in more companies. That is good coz recent trend is companies are moving HQ from Singapore to Shanghai and KL.
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I got strong feeling the huge depots in Woodlands and Xilin Ave were meant to replace Wldep and Bndep respectively
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Sg really very crowded and land constraints once the rail lines and new residential units are ready..Dunno where else gov wanna reclaim land.
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Actually Svc 84 should be renumbered to 385..84 can reuse for new trunk svc
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Actually Svc 84 should be renumbered to 385..84 can reuse for new trunk svc
Even better, add a '3' in front of the current number to form a new number - 384.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Actually Svc 84 should be renumbered to 385..84 can reuse for new trunk svc
Yes.. can just make it 384... trunk status to it makes no sense.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Sg really very crowded and land constraints once the rail lines and new residential units are ready..Dunno where else gov wanna reclaim land.
There are plans to reclaim huge chunks of land near Marina South I hear.. also near Jurong island..
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Even better, add a '3' in front of the current number to form a new number - 384.
True indeed,save cost as just add no 3 at the bus stop plates.. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
There are plans to reclaim huge chunks of land near Marina South I hear.. also near Jurong island..
Sooner or later becoming more humids and hopefully no landslide.. -
Dunno if i shall post this..but a couple of Kjdep friends saw a white flying human like when they park their buses at Bldep yesterday..
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So in 2016 LTA will owned all the buses and depots Soon Lee:Tuas/Boon Lay/Taman Jurong Bulim:Tengah/Jurong East/Clementi Bukit Batok:Bt Batok/Choa Chu Kang Kranji:Bt Panjang/Kranji Woodlands Integrated:Woodlands Reg/Woodlands North/Sembawang Woodlands depot/Bus park demolish. New Ang Mo Kio:Yishun/Canberra SMRT Ang Mo Kio depot will be demolish Ang Mo Kio:Yio Chu Kang/Ang Mo Kio/Bishan Woodleigh:Woodleigh/Serangoon Ctrl/Sims Pl Braddell:Toa Payoh/St Michaels Hougang:Buangkok/Hougang Ctrl/Sengkang/Punggol Xilin integrated:Bedok/Upp East Coast/Marine Parade/Eunos Bedok depot and Changi Bus Park demolish Loyang:Pasir Ris/Tampines/Tampines North/Changi Village and Airport 2 new depot along One north corridors:Buona Vista/Kent Ridge/Bt Merah/Harbourfront/CBD Think this is what LTA plans..Not surprise if there is 3 diff PTOs in a depot
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Do u think our govt is too kiasi to up the speed of heavy vehicles to 70kmh? even if up to 70kmh; many normal roads still remain at 60kmh limit which is still reasonable. Due to the low speed limit, i notice many motorists got impatient and overtake or the faster heavy vehicles exceed the limit to travel at outer lanes causing chaos. also, i tried driving car at 60kmh at expressways and found myself to suffer higher fatigue than travel at 70kmh and above. so is it worse off? i think many metropolitan cities have higher speed limits for buses and trucks.
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65-70kmh might be okay...for vans and light pick up 75-80 kmh but again our normal 90 maximum should be raised to 100 too.I drive cars 60-80 also feel sleepy,i tried riding big bikes 80-90 also feel sleepy...
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OT: Where is the Citaro fan who used to troll and bombard the forum... been MIA for long time... anyway... not saying I want him back... just remembered that loser!
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Do u think our govt is too kiasi to up the speed of heavy vehicles to 70kmh? even if up to 70kmh; many normal roads still remain at 60kmh limit which is still reasonable. Due to the low speed limit, i notice many motorists got impatient and overtake or the faster heavy vehicles exceed the limit to travel at outer lanes causing chaos. also, i tried driving car at 60kmh at expressways and found myself to suffer higher fatigue than travel at 70kmh and above. so is it worse off? i think many metropolitan cities have higher speed limits for buses and trucks.
What you said makes sense, but don't forget that even with the 60kmh speed limit, there's already alot of heavy vehicles that are breaking that speed limit daily.
Even the public transport operators have vehicles breaking that too. If you raise it to 70kmh, I think those heavy vehicles would try to make it to 80kmh already (which I think they're definitely capable of even with a full load of sand or other stuff after those mass influx of Continental brands - Iveco, Volvo, MB, Scania, MAN).
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speaking of Iveco..saw a buggy bus chassis(looks like low floor) at the agent in the west..
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Services I have taken Volvo B10M Mk IV:
DM on:
9: SBS906M
43: SBS895K, SBS905R, SBS918D, SBS925H
82: SBS973T
83: SBS892T (now gone)
84: SBS950J
105: SBS959K
113: SBS921T
Striders on:
43: SBS1995Z, SBS2630U, SBS2660H (now gone)
62: SBS2632P
83: SBS1957J, SBS1994B
89: SBS1899T
107: SBS1980R
119: SBS2602B
DM3500 on:
43: SBS2719Z, SBS2773R
74: SBS2797Y, SBS2801T
82: SBS2694K, SBS2752B, SBS2759H
105: SBS2711U
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UPDATED:
Services I have taken Volvo B9TLs on (Batch 1, ZF):
5: SBS7615G
10: SBS7658H, SBS7661Y, SBS7671T, SBS7676E, SBS7679Y, SBS7680S
30: SBS7519B, SBS7520X, SBS7521T, SBS7523M, SBS7531P, SBS7590T, SBS7595E, SBS7596C, SBS7652Z, SBS7657K
51: SBS7528A, SBS7619X
65: SBS7552D
74: SBS7626A
97: SBS7502Z, SBS7557R, SBS7592M
143: SBS7530S, SBS7532L, SBS7537Z, SBS7622K, SBS7623H, SBS7627Y, SBS7629S (all perms)
168: SBS7597A
197: SBS7567L
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Spotted new bus stops under construction along Penjuru Rd. One is opposite the existing bus stop for sv 30 (BS20241), and another one in the same direction after Teban Gardens Cres. New service?
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Originally posted by array88:
Spotted new bus stops under construction along Penjuru Rd. One is opposite the existing bus stop for sv 30 (BS20241), and another one in the same direction after Teban Gardens Cres. New service?
I think so... Anyway, there are also new bus stops along Kay Siang Road (from Tanglin Road to Margeret Drive) too.
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Originally posted by array88:
Spotted new bus stops under construction along Penjuru Rd. One is opposite the existing bus stop for sv 30 (BS20241), and another one in the same direction after Teban Gardens Cres. New service?
Maybe Sv 30 becomes bi-directional on Penjuru... After taking u-turn under flyover instead of turning right on J Townhall road.
Alternately, instead of 143M, service like 144 would have made more sense. JE interchange, J Townhall, Teban Crescent, Penjuru road, WC road, Teban Gardens, J Townhall, JE interchange.
Scrap 143M and introduce proposed 144. Will do much better and beneficial to workers along Teban Crescent, Penjuru plus new HdB hub along Penjuru. Yet will cover Teban (143M)
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
I think so... Anyway, there are also new bus stops along Kay Siang Road (from Tanglin Road to Margeret Drive) too.
Margaret Dr will have new service next year when Dawson estate HdB completes in mid 2015
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Came across this website for the Vogelstize seats we see on buses nowadays (System 750/3, found on Scania KUB, MB OC, MAN A22/A24 and Volvo B9TL Wrights):
http://www.vogelindustries.com.my/usr/product.aspx?pgid=70
^Note that the link above will show the blue seats of the MAN A22/A24.
Seems like they still make Vogelstize design seats under licence of Vogel industries, although the original maker no longer manufactures these seat models anymore... This should explain how Gemilang got the seats without being exported... I guess that these locally assembled seats are therefore so common on buses nowadays, since our operators prefer to use local brands (cheaper than exported) to adorn their buses.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
Came across this website for the Vogelstize seats we see on buses nowadays (System 750/3, found on Scania KUB, MB OC, MAN A22/A24 and Volvo B9TL Wrights):
http://www.vogelindustries.com.my/usr/product.aspx?pgid=70
^Note that the link above will show the blue seats of the MAN A22/A24.
Seems like they still make Vogelstize design seats under licence of Vogel industries, although the original maker no longer manufactures these seat models anymore... This should explain how Gemilang got the seats without being exported... I guess that these locally assembled seats are therefore so common on buses nowadays, since our operators prefer to use local brands (cheaper than exported) to adorn their buses.
It's been 13 years since the first bus getting these new seats (TIB1147L) was out from lay up (due to its chassis not yet built when registered) in 2001...We never expected that the public transport buses in Singapore are still using them after this long while...
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
It's been 13 years since the first bus getting these new seats (TIB1147L) was out from lay up (due to its chassis not yet built when registered) in 2001...We never expected that the public transport buses in Singapore are still using them after this long while...
But I find it interesting that the Vogelstize seats are produced locally (well in Malaysia)... I always thought that the seats were imported from overseas. I guess they also did do the System 750 seats for the Batch 2/3 Habits/Sentosa Volvo B7RLEs and are now still doing the System 750/3 (with a softer and curvy cushion instead of rectangular on the 750) seats for today's buses since the introduction of the KUBs...