Miscellaneous Topics on Buses
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
The route is very popular PM peak to get to ave 5 and st 61. Dd worthy loading as well. Am peak do go and observe, route is empty until YCK road, when load starts picking up on the other part of ave 5 and then ave 4 to MRT.
This clearly shows that residents of ave5 would have preferred if Sv 269 would call in both directions and go directly to AMK via ave 6. I am not stating that modify the route and hence haven't posted in "route suggestions". Just was an observation on how the loading is different am and PM, and caters to different sets of people.
obviously for am peak, most people are going to work...instead of going home...thus SBST have also introduced downroute for sv269 during AM peak as well.. And how does it show that the resident of Ave5 would have prefer sv269 to call at both direction? if it is your opinion, just say it, instead of saying that the resident of Ave 5 want it. i am staying in Ave5 and i DO NOT WANT the route that u suggested.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
obviously for am peak, most people are going to work...instead of going home...thus SBST have also introduced downroute for sv269 during AM peak as well.. And how does it show that the resident of Ave5 would have prefer sv269 to call at both direction? if it is your opinion, just say it, instead of saying that the resident of Ave 5 want it. i am staying in Ave5 and i DO NOT WANT the route that u suggested.
Since you stay on ave 5 (between ave 4 and yck road), would you take 269 to amk or wait for 138 to amk? Considering the number of hdb hubs there, is 138 only enough? So you like taking 269 that goes round about yck road also to get to amk? And AMK people dont go only for mrt right? There are many amenities there that YCK does not have. Look forward to your response on this. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Since you stay on ave 5 (between ave 4 and yck road), would you take 269 to amk or wait for 138 to amk? Considering the number of hdb hubs there, is 138 only enough? So you like taking 269 that goes round about yck road also to get to amk? And AMK people dont go only for mrt right? There are many amenities there that YCK does not have. Look forward to your response on this.obviously, i will go to ave4 and take 76/268 or cross the road to bus stop outside blk155 to take 269/76/268 if i am rushing for time..... i have explain in one of my earlier post.....do not have to die die wait for sv138.
As for those stay near Blk 649, there are alternative buses along Ave 6 to get to AMK hub...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
obviously, i will go to ave4 and take 76/268 or cross the road to bus stop outside blk155 to take 269/76/268 if i am rushing for time..... i have explain in one of my earlier post.....do not have to die die wait for sv138.
As for those stay near Blk 649, there are alternative buses along Ave 6 to get to AMK hub...
Thanks for your reply. So I was not wrong to say sv 269 has different sets of people in AM and PM peak.
AM peak - from yck road/ave 5 (bet yck rd and ave 4)
PM peak - to ave 5 (bet ave 4 and amk ave 6) and st 61.
It is like 2 different bus routes combined into 1.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Thanks for your reply. So I was not wrong to say sv 269 has different sets of people in AM and PM peak.
AM peak - from yck road/ave 5 (bet yck rd and ave 4)
PM peak - to ave 5 (bet ave 4 and amk ave 6) and st 61.
It is like 2 different bus routes combined into 1.
pls lah.. most of the feeders also same same mah.. am peak ppl go to work, pm peak ppl go home...
and am peak, the demand is from ave5/4... pm peak, most of the ppl alight at ave 4...
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
UPDATED:
A/P = SMB201Y, SMB3112B (188AP90), TIB547Y, TIB548U, TIB554B, TIB586J, TIB891C (188AP04), TIB898J (188AP06), TIB899G (188AP08), TIB1082P (188AP09), TIB1087B (188AP10), TIB1101T (188AP11)
Splits = SMB117H (188S110), SMB219Y (188S103), SMB1376U (188S111), SMB3046J (188S190), TIB556X, TIB810L, TIB828L, TIB854K, TIB988H, TIB1065P (188S107), TIB1118X, TIB1126Y, TIB1203H
TQ = 2 Random MANs
UPDATED:
Weekdays (12 A/P, 11 S1, 1 S2):
A/P = SMB3011J (188AP90), TIB547Y (188AP02), TIB548U (188AP07), TIB586J (188AP05), TIB891C (188AP04), TIB898J (188AP06), TIB899G (188AP08), TIB1082P (188AP09), TIB1087B (188AP10), TIB1101T (188AP11), TIB1203H (188AP01), TIB1238H (188AP03)
Splits = SMB201Y, SMB209B, SMB218A, SMB219Y, SMB1376U (188S111), SMB3046J (188S190), TIB810L (188S104), TIB828L (188S201), TIB854K, TIB988H (188S102), TIB1065P (188S107), TIB1118X, TIB1126Y
Weekends (12 A/P, 2 TQ):
A/P = SMB201Y, SMB218A, SMB219Y, TIB547Y (188AP01), TIB548U (188AP07), TIB586J (188AP05), TIB898J (188AP06), TIB899G (188AP08), TIB1082P (188AP09), TIB1101T (188AP11), TIB1118X, TIB1126Y
TQ = 2 random MANs
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BusAnal bro,you should work at either SBST or SMRT buses to gain experience there...When you start holding a post there then you will understand why such routes are created.Practical and theories are different thing
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
BusAnal bro,you should work at either SBST or SMRT buses to gain experience there...When you start holding a post there then you will understand why such routes are created.Practical and theories are different thing
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
REUPDATED:
Weekdays (16 A/P, 8 S1, 3 S2):
WLDEP A/P = SMB1400H – SMB1402C, TIB493T, TIB541M (176AP08), TIB542K (176AP09), TIB544E, TIB902E, TIB983X (176AP04)
WLDEP Splits = TIB558R, TIB559M, TIB864G, TIB865D, TIB979J
KJDEP A/P = SMB68R, SMB91Y, TIB829J, TIB895S, TIB1235R, TIB1236M, 1 random bus
KJDEP Splits = SMB3010L, SMB3030D, TIB610Y, TIB874C (176S250), TIB989E, TIB1102R (176S105)
Weekends (16 A/P, 4 TQ):
WLDEP A/P = SMB1400H – SMB1402C, TIB493T, TIB541M (176AP08), TIB542K (176AP09), TIB544E, TIB902E, TIB983X (176AP04)
WLDEP TQ= TIB558R, TIB559M, TIB864G
KJDEP A/P = SMB68R, SMB91Y, TIB829J, TIB895S, TIB1235R, TIB1236M, 1 random bus
KJDEP TQ = Random MAN (176TQ4)
UPDATED:
Weekdays (16 A/P, 8 S1, 3 S2):
WLDEP A/P = SMB1400H – SMB1402C, TIB493T (176AP06), TIB541M (176AP08), TIB542K (176AP09), TIB544E, TIB902E, TIB979J (176AP04)
WLDEP Splits = TIB558R, TIB559M, TIB864G, TIB865D, TIB983X
KJDEP A/P = SMB116K, TIB513U, TIB606K (176AP14), TIB829J, TIB960L, TIB1235R, TIB1236M
KJDEP Splits = SMB3010L, SMB3030D, TIB610Y, TIB874C (176S250), TIB989E, TIB1102R (176S105)
Weekends (16 A/P, 4 TQ):
WLDEP A/P = SMB1400H – SMB1402C, TIB493T (176AP06), TIB541M (176AP08), TIB542K (176AP09), TIB544E, TIB902E, TIB979J (176AP04)
WLDEP TQ = TIB558R, TIB559M, TIB864G
KJDEP A/P = SMB116K, TIB513U, TIB606K (176AP14), TIB960L, TIB829J, TIB1235R, TIB1236M
KJDEP TQ = Random bus (176TQ4)
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
BusAnal bro,you should work at either SBST or SMRT buses to gain experience there...When you start holding a post there then you will understand why such routes are created.Practical and theories are different thing
LTA might be a better place, as they have taken over route planning.
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- This morning, at around 10:30 am, I saw a SMRT bus (in the new livery) driving at Jurong West Street 81.
- I felt strange when I saw it, because isn't Jurong West under SBS Transit instead?
- That SMRT bus had the words "Training Bus" on its LED display panels.
- Inside that bus, there was one driver and a few people accompanying him in the bus.
There could only be two possibilities:
- 1. That was a new bus driver doing test-drive on NR5's route.
- 2. SMRT is preparing for a new bus service in Jurong West Extension.
- I guess there will be a new SMRT bus service in Jurong West Extension.
- SMRT will have a new bus depot at Bulim Drive in 2015. Hence, seeing a SMRT bus (in new livery) driving at Jurong West Street 81 may mean that there will be a new SMRT bus service at Jurong West Extension.
- Recently, OneMap included 'Bulim Avenue' and 'Bulim Street' into the website. I have not went to that area to check, but this might indicate that the 3 new roads are now open for the general traffic.
- With Bulim industrial area opening up, there is a likelihood that there will be new bus services - in the form of extension of existing bus route and/or introducing new bus route - to Bulim Avenue and Bulim Drive. As SMRT will have a new bus depot at Bulim Drive, LTA may create a new bus route that originates from the new bus depot, to complement existing bus route 181 and connect Bulim industrial area. It is very likely that there will be another bus service complementing 181 to serve Bulim Industrial area, as the industrial developments would probably all be multi-storey and there will be larger-than-average number of people seeking employment in Bulim Industrial area, such that just one bus service is not sufficient to serve the area.
- Since 2009 when Pioneer MRT Station, there has been a consistently high demand for bus connection to Pioneer MRT Station from Jurong West Street 61, 71 and 81. There can be a new bus service that can have the secondary function of providing bus connection to Pioneer MRT Station.
- By 2015/2016, there will be a new healthcare facility at Jurong West Street 93. In near future, there will be a new hawker centre and a new polyclinic at Jurong West Street 61. A new bus service can be created to serve these new developments.
- The appearance of a new SMRT bus at Jurong West Street 81 could mean that there will be a new bus service starting soon. Bulim Bus Depot, however, will only be ready in 2015. Other than Bulim Bus Depot, there is no bus depot near Jurong - except Kranji Bus Depot, nor any bus facility that has space to accomodate more bus services. Hence, there has to be interim measures taken for a new SMRT bus service to be introduced at Jurong West.
- In the interim, the buses for this new SMRT bus services would probably be supplied from Kranji Bus Depot, before the Bulim Bus Depot is ready to supply buses for it.
- As this bus service originates from Bulim Bus Depot, yet Bulim Bus Depot would only be ready in 2015, in order for SMRT to run this bus service, there has to be a temporary roadside bus terminal for the buses to park and for the drivers to rest. Hu Ching Bus Terminal is along a two-lane road that is rarely utilized and has no bus service plying it. Based on this, the temporary roadside bus terminal would most likely be located along a road that would hardly be used. With that, I guess there will be a temporary roadside bus terminal constructed at the short-road (not the main road) that is also named Bulim Avenue, for this new bus service.
- I guess the rest of Bulim Avenue and the future Bulim Drive will only be ready next year. Hence, in the beginning, this new bus service would probably only go to Bulim Avenue (the minor road) and terminate there, where the temporary roadside bus terminal would most likely be located at. In 2015, when the Bulim Bus Depot is ready, this new bus service will then be extended to ply more of Bulim Avenue and terminate at Bulim Bus Depot.
- This is how I think the new SMRT bus route would be:
- Bulim Bus Depot
- Bulim Drive
- Bulim Avenue
- Jurong West Avenue 2
- Jurong West Avenue 4
- Jurong West Street 72
- Jurong West Avenue 5
- Jurong West Street 82
- Jurong West Street 81
- Jurong West Street 71
- Jurong West Street 61
- Jurong West Street 63 (Pioneer MRT Station)
- Pioneer Road North
- Upper Jurong Road
- Jurong West Street 93
- Jurong West Street 92
- Jurong West Street 91
- Jurong West Street 93
- Upper Jurong Road
- Pioneer Road North
- Jurong West Street 63 (Pioneer MRT Station)
- Jurong West Street 61
- Jurong West Street 71
- Jurong West Street 81
- Jurong West Street 82
- Jurong West Avenue 5
- Jurong West Street 72
- Jurong West Avenue 4
- Jurong West Avenue 2
- Bulim Avenue
- Bulim Drive
- Bulim Bus Depot
- Length = around 16.0km
- This new bus service would complement service 181 to serve Bulim area.
- I design this route to avoid duplicating route 181 at Jurong West Extension, thus avoid wastage of resources and better utilization of resources.
- I design this route to maximize the service's coverage in Jurong West Extension.
- meanwhile, bus route 181 will also be extended into Bulim industrial area, and probably return back to Jurong West Avenue 3, via Bulim Drive, the future road and Jurong West Street 25.
- Collectively, this new bus service and existing bus service 181 will connect the entire Jurong West Extension to Bulim industrial area.
- Probably because the new industrial area would provide employment opportunities for larger-than-average size of workers (since the factory buildings there are all multi-storey), there has to be more than one bus service serving the area. While 181 brings the workers to Boon Lay MRT, this new bus service would bring them to Pioneer MRT; this would spread the workers across MRT stations, instead of concentrating every one of them at Boon Lay MRT Station.
- As mentioned, this new bus service would improve bus connectivity to Pioneer MRT Station from Jurong West Street 93, 61, 71 and 81.
- As mentioned, there are new developments coming up at Jurong West Street 93 and 61. This new bus service could provide bus connection to these new developments from Pioneer MRT Station and the rest of Jurong West Extension area.
- This new bus service complements and relieves the load of bus service 241.
Well, this is my take on my sighting of a SMRT bus driving along Jurong West Street 81 just now in the morning.For all we know, this might just be a new driver doing test-drive on NR5's bus route.
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Enhancements to SMRT Services (1Q 2014)
1. 169 [BSEP] - SMB3114X? (169AP90)
2. 173 [Non-BSEP] - Unknown
3. 188 [BSEP] - SMB3112B (188AP90)
4. 804 [BSEP] - SMB3095S (804AP90)
5. 806 [Non-BSEP] - Unknown
6. 850E [BSEP] - SMB3110G (850EAP95)
7. 856 [BSEP] - SMB3057C (856S190)
8. 857 [BSEP] - SMB3098J (857AP91)
9. 860 [Non-BSEP] - SMB3110G (850EAP95 xover)
10. 911 [Non-BSEP] - SMB3075A (951EAP90 xover)
11. 912 [Non-BSEP] - TIB593M, TIB818R, SMB298B (SWT 912E)
12. 925 [BSEP] - Unknown
13. 951E [BSEP] - SMB3075A (951EAP90)
14. 960 [BSEP] - SMB3109L (960AP91)
15. 966 [BSEP] - Unknown
16. 972 [BSEP] - SMB3093Y (972S190)
17. 975 [BSEP] - SMB3054K (975S190) -
298B?
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Originally posted by SMB238S:
Enhancements to SMRT Services (1Q 2014)
1. 169 [BSEP] - SMB3114X? (169AP90)
2. 173 [Non-BSEP] - Unknown
3. 188 [BSEP] - SMB3112B (188AP90)
4. 804 [BSEP] - SMB3095S (804AP90)
5. 806 [Non-BSEP] - Unknown
6. 850E [BSEP] - SMB3110G (850EAP95)
7. 856 [BSEP] - SMB3057C (856S190)
8. 857 [BSEP] - SMB3098J (857AP91)
9. 860 [Non-BSEP] - SMB3110G (850EAP95 xover)
10. 911 [Non-BSEP] - SMB3075A (951EAP90 xover)
11. 912 [Non-BSEP] - TIB593M, TIB818R, SMB298B (SWT 912E)
12. 925 [BSEP] - Unknown
13. 951E [BSEP] - SMB3075A (951EAP90)
14. 960 [BSEP] - SMB3109L (960AP91)
15. 966 [BSEP] - Unknown
16. 972 [BSEP] - SMB3093Y (972S190)
17. 975 [BSEP] - SMB3054K (975S190)Steady 966 AGAIN...
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Originally posted by SMB238S:
Enhancements to SMRT Services (1Q 2014)
12. 925 [BSEP] - UnknownSMB3051T.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
All typos: SBS8137H (should be SBS8139H), SBS8561Z (should be SBS8560Z), SBS8472R (should be SBS8742R), SBS5193 (missing 'U') and SBS5996L (Should be SBS5196L)
Another that I have just spotted:
Scania K230UB Batch 2 Euro IV I have taken
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Scania K230UB Batch 1 Euro IV I have taken
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There is this BNDEP 36 Malay female BC who is SBS8169X's AM driver (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know whether drivers actually change after 1 trip, even when the bus is still on AM or PM). She says 'Thank You!' when passengers board and when she changed drivers with a Chinese male driver at Changi Airport PTB2 at about 3.30p.m, she looked back and said 'Goodbye!' to all the passengers. Have you met this friendly BNDEP 36 female BC yet?
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Does she wear tudung?Theres a few Malay female drivers at Bndep..3 of them are former bus conductor with the youngest(early 40s) the newer BC always smile..Soon Lee got a few Malay BCs follow by Bedok North.The least Malay i know probably at Brbp and Arbp.SMRT Kranji a lot of Malay BCs with the least in Ang Mo Kio..2 of the tudung makciks ever drive 998Y and 999U fyi
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There are some BCs who have very good manners. They always smile, say hello... But this is not very common.
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If the bus is not very crowded and I am not doing my loading monitoring on a service, I sometimes go and chat with bc. Some are friendly and appreciate and share information. Others are reticent and will often answer only to the point. I am also cautious to make sure I am not disturbing them while driving.
Speaking to BCs is a great way to get information. I often validate some of my questions/suggestions with them as well. I feel they like it when I share info with them.
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Previously when i was a BC,Women in their early 30s to early 40s love to smile and chat with me
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Does she wear tudung?Theres a few Malay female drivers at Bndep..3 of them are former bus conductor with the youngest(early 40s) the newer BC always smile..Soon Lee got a few Malay BCs follow by Bedok North.The least Malay i know probably at Brbp and Arbp.SMRT Kranji a lot of Malay BCs with the least in Ang Mo Kio..2 of the tudung makciks ever drive 998Y and 999U fyi
She wears a scarf and sunglasses, if I'm not wrong... Just know that she drives SBS8169X on 36...
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Oh ok i know which one already
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Oh ok i know which one already
You know who she is?