Tibs had so many complaints for 178 in 1984 over lack of DD
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http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article/lhzb19840516-1.2.33.10.1.aspx SBS deployed Leyland Atlantean to S178 back in 1980s... When Tibs tookover, Tibs faced a lot of complains over S178... This article lagi best... comparing SBS's DD deployment and Tibs's Hino/ UD deployment... What's ironic was this... SBS 178: peak 6 mins w/ double decks, off peak 10 mins Tibs 178: peak 5 mins, off peak 13 mins. This should tells the kids... Adding more buses is useless as because of the theory of dimninishing returns... In fact no wonder why Tibs/ SMRTB making massive losses... need to maintain such a big peak hr fleet say for 966, yet off peak fleet so small... wastage of buses during off peak idling...
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Yet when SMRT had to make a decision, it chose to buy bendies again; and still no sign of any DDs.
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SMRT 857, 966, 985.. those plying Jln Toa Payoh are the hopeless bunch.. either buses hogging up 4 - 5 SBS buses behind as ppl trying to board hopelessly, or fly stop for good... 857 ever hogged up 3 SBST bus during off peak hrs... cos bus full also...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Article/lhzb1…
SBS deployed Leyland Atlantean to S178 back in 1980s… When Tibs tookover, Tibs faced a lot of complains over S178…
This article lagi best… comparing SBS’s DD deployment and Tibs’s Hino/ UD deployment…
What’s ironic was this…
SBS 178: peak 6 mins w/ double decks, off peak 10 mins
Tibs 178: peak 5 mins, off peak 13 mins.This should tells the kids… Adding more buses is useless as because of the theory of dimninishing returns…
In fact no wonder why Tibs/ SMRTB making massive losses… need to maintain such a big peak hr fleet say for 966, yet off peak fleet so small… wastage of buses during off peak idling…
SMRT reasonable use off peak bus for charter.
178 should introduce bendy bus.
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so many... how many charter can you do?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
SMRT 857, 966, 985.. those plying Jln Toa Payoh are the hopeless bunch..
either buses hogging up 4 – 5 SBS buses behind as ppl trying to board hopelessly, or fly stop for good…
857 ever hogged up 3 SBST bus during off peak hrs… cos bus full also…
SMRT 857, 966, 985.. those plying Jln Toa Payoh are very useful for people like me living nearby like toa payoh town. 966 can take me from north west like CCK or woodland town direct to Toa Payoh. And from Toa Payoh to Parkway faster than service 31 and save money. 857 and 985 can help to reduce traveling time and help to reduce crowd from MRT going north. The only problem is the waiting time and you cannot blame SMRT the timing as expressway like PIE and CTE sometime jam due to road accident.
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I think one reason why TIBS never buy DD bus is because of some area only SD bus can go through and the bus service can be very crowded like service 67 etc. sill SMRT bus service should plan the route for mrt breakdown shuttle bus properly and deploy buses. It the SMRT bus old management mistake I hope the new one do a good job.
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178 need dual depot control so that early morning trips can be done to cater pax towards Bukit Batok Ctrl.Problem is the fleet and run time.Drivers prone to speeding due to absurd timing.Kranji should do with 4 duties.
Until now I dun understand why 700 need dual control.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
178 need dual depot control so that early morning trips can be done to cater pax towards Bukit Batok Ctrl.Problem is the fleet and run time.Drivers prone to speeding due to absurd timing.Kranji should do with 4 duties.
Until now I dun understand why 700 need dual control.
Maybe KJ is clearing up for new buses to come to KJ that why they just give buses away
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
178 need dual depot control so that early morning trips can be done to cater pax towards Bukit Batok Ctrl.Problem is the fleet and run time.Drivers prone to speeding due to absurd timing.Kranji should do with 4 duties.
Until now I dun understand why 700 need dual control.
Because KJ needs to free up some depot space (I assume)...
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If they need free up space then 970 is the one dual control rather than 700 cause its mostly a loop svc.857 is an exception.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
SMRT 857, 966, 985.. those plying Jln Toa Payoh are very useful for people like me living nearby like toa payoh town. 966 can take me from north west like CCK or woodland town direct to Toa Payoh. And from Toa Payoh to Parkway faster than service 31 and save money. 857 and 985 can help to reduce traveling time and help to reduce crowd from MRT going north. The only problem is the waiting time and you cannot blame SMRT the timing as expressway like PIE and CTE sometime jam due to road accident.
Then they've to try improving the capacity... In fact 966's load is so peakish that the AM peak return leg to Woodlands can be only 10 - 15% loaded... -
178 used to be one of the high demand service back in the 90s if I am not wrong. Ridership might have dropped ever since the Woodlands MRT extension opened in early 1996.
And I still remember the way SMRT treated 178's fleet back in 2006/2007. The worst fleet ever then.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
178 really has 'grown' to be honest. Atleast there is still MB buses on 178 as perms.
Atleast those former KJ 167 buses like 808U and 809S + 1 SMB2E are now 178 regulars.
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Revive old Kj167.Kj can minor control 178,187,851 & 963.Let go 700 & 975 to Woodlands
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
178 used to be one of the high demand service back in the 90s if I am not wrong. Ridership might have dropped ever since the Woodlands MRT extension opened in early 1996.
And I still remember the way SMRT treated 178's fleet back in 2006/2007. The worst fleet ever then.
975 and 178's fleets are still quite rubbish even until now... Always deploys the worst buses the depot has.
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178 used to use double decks! actually nothing new... Whenever Tibs takeover SBS svs, sure got complain against Tibs one.. be it 190 etc... LOL
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Sbst275 lol u and ur never ending condemn towards SMRT eh
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eh.. not I want to condemn leh... everything they takeover bus sv, sure got bus svs tio complained one... dunno why also...
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Sbst275 lol u and ur never ending condemn towards SMRT eh
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in reality... the morale of the complain is this... you can deploy more SDs say at 5 mins back in 1984... 1 SD in those days can only carry like 50 - 60 ppl... That's 600 - 720 lots per hr... But using bigger capacity DDs changes the whole thing... 6 mins freq, but you can dispatch out 800 of lots per hr... Someone can laugh... but he himself ppl say SBST area do semi express say.. only 966 is fastest... Never mind la... SMRTB is alrdy a rotting mess even w/ army officers inside... let it rot and die..
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You incur 4 more buses on 178, but a total number of 4 more buses being layover during off peak hrs at the depot... no wonder why Tibs/ SMRTB all along their mentality make big losses... deploy more SD say on 966, yet still cannot match capacity level by ADD.. worst incur so much cost of upkeeping and wages...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
in reality…
the morale of the complain is this…
you can deploy more SDs say at 5 mins back in 1984… 1 SD in those days can only carry like 50 – 60 ppl… That’s 600 – 720 lots per hr…
But using bigger capacity DDs changes the whole thing… 6 mins freq, but you can dispatch out 800 of lots per hr…
Someone can laugh… but he himself ppl say SBST area do semi express say.. only 966 is fastest…
Never mind la… SMRTB is alrdy a rotting mess even w/ army officers inside… let it rot and die..
nobody said only 966 is the fastest
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Sbst275 lol u and ur never ending condemn towards SMRT eh
he is bias against TIBS/SMRT ...
