BSEP wave for 18th February 2013
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Edit: Service 169 and Service 965 under BSEP based on duty sheet (from TIB868X)
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
Service 965 under BSEP based on duty sheet (from TIB868X)
That bus is needed BSEP
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Originally posted by service_238:
10 12 15 22 53 88 100 123 154 243G 354
15 354 x2, the rest x1, 88 not sure (maybe x2).
12 citaros and 2 wrights.
88 should get B9TL addition and not Citaro for godsake!! 154 just got an additional DD last month, making it 50% DD fleet. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
88 should get B9TL addition and not Citaro for godsake!! 154 just got an additional DD last month, making it 50% DD fleet.Same idea with Sv 12 previously I guess? Splitting the load out across the timings seems to be the case..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Not all of these services are under BSEP, are they?
I only spotted a bunch of 66xx Citaros on Sv 53
today so far..do you happen to know the timings of the new trips
for Sv 53 as well? 
Service 15:
I spotted the entire fleet of Sv 15 today throughout AM Peak today. All the 16 existing permers are accounted for (all the perm Mk4s & KUBs, no other cameos). But there's an additional duty though today, in between 8665E & 8356Y, but the Citaro that was on that additional new slot is 6168L (BN 518). I didn't spot any other BSEP Citaros or that kind on Sv 15 for the entire route during AM Peak. So Sv 15 isn't under BSEP it seems?
Could it be that Sv 15 only has 1 new S-shift added with this new timetable change from today? Cause I rmb the other time you said before that Sv 15 seems to have an extra bus according to the previous timetable, but these 2 months I've observed the fleet and there's consistently 16 buses during Peak usually, including 8189M. So possibly 8189M was on outside-schedule duty? So possibly in turn means this timetable change reflects the updated timings for 8189M + 1 more new S-shift?
What are the timings anyway again for the added trips on Sv 15? Maybe the BSEP trip I missed out or something...but idk. wanna double-check with you first.On another note, the Sv 15/354 X-over is removed WEF today as well I suppose? both 2603Z & the occasional x-over replacement 1942B are on Sv 15 throughout AM Peak.
the sv 53 one departs around 6am from Bishan.
Sv 15 is under BSEP. They probably didnt deploy BSEP buses this morning. Non-BSEP buses can cameo on BSEP duties and vice versa. Its just that the bus registered is for accounting purposes.
There are some adjustments to the sv 15 schedule, there are downroutes from Eunos MRT to Pasir Ris by a non-WAB split shift duty during both peaks.
15/354 is removed as well.
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SBS6351Z
(BNDEP or BBDEP 10)SBS6354R
(BRBP or SLBP 154)SBS6355M
(SLBP 243G)SMB3030D
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Originally posted by service_238:
the sv 53 one departs around 6am from Bishan.
Sv 15 is under BSEP. They probably didnt deploy BSEP buses this morning. Non-BSEP buses can cameo on BSEP duties and vice versa. Its just that the bus registered is for accounting purposes.
There are some adjustments to the sv 15 schedule, there are downroutes from Eunos MRT to Pasir Ris by a non-WAB split shift duty during both peaks.
15/354 is removed as well.
Uh, I see, so the Sv 53 BSEP duty reaches PSR area about 0715 or later?
Oh oh, I always thought that the starter has a tendency to deploy fellow BSEP buses on the BSEP duties if the intiial BSEP perm is missing, at least from what I had seen lately?
Uh, the downroute should be 1963R? That's the only S-shift non-WAB SD on Sv 15 i know of lately, the other three are usually A/P. Unless they switched the timings again with this new timetable.Thanks for the update on 15/354 too.
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No one spotted 3331B (BNDEP) yet? I thought Sv 10 would have gotten a Wright..but a Citaro appeared today instead?
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
SBS6351Z
(BNDEP or BBDEP 10)SBS6354R
(BRBP or SLBP 154)SBS6355M
(SLBP 243G)SMB3030D
(KJDEP 190)6351 prob bndep, 6354 prob slbp
6350 prob 100 since its on 43 today
side note: 6344 103 is finally out - looks like first day on revenue service. one month overdue.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Uh, I see, so the Sv 53 BSEP duty reaches PSR area about 0715 or later?
Oh oh, I always thought that the starter has a tendency to deploy fellow BSEP buses on the BSEP duties if the intiial BSEP perm is missing, at least from what I had seen lately?
Uh, the downroute should be 1963R? That's the only S-shift non-WAB SD on Sv 15 i know of lately, the other three are usually A/P. Unless they switched the timings again with this new timetable.Thanks for the update on 15/354 too.
0649 0654 or 0659 at dr 12 to airport - one of these 3 slots is the BSEP slot. inclination is 0654 slot, but give you front and back timings in case i arrange the slots wrongly.
amdep, being amdep seems to have the strictest regime in deploying bus types on its services. so trust them on deploying BSEP bus. i cant say for sure for bndep bus even though they are under same district. you live in that area, get the feel on deploying bus types and you more or less know how bndep deploys buses.
1963R or not... leave it up to you to spot. first downroute is from eunos mrt to mrp at 0608h, reach back PSR 0719hrs. maybe u can spot this timing or something..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
No one spotted 3331B (BNDEP) yet? I thought Sv 10 would have gotten a Wright..but a Citaro appeared today instead?
12? 3319M is spare from dec 2012 batch. and probably still spare. so far none of the spare BSEP buses went to perm any service except 6314 to 50 i think? (need to do Sv 50 schedule to determine)
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Originally posted by service_238:
0649 0654 or 0659 at dr 12 to airport - one of these 3 slots is the BSEP slot. inclination is 0654 slot, but give you front and back timings in case i arrange the slots wrongly.
amdep, being amdep seems to have the strictest regime in deploying bus types on its services. so trust them on deploying BSEP bus. i cant say for sure for bndep bus even though they are under same district. you live in that area, get the feel on deploying bus types and you more or less know how bndep deploys buses.
1963R or not... leave it up to you to spot. first downroute is from eunos mrt to mrp at 0608h, reach back PSR 0719hrs. maybe u can spot this timing or something..
6314G (AM SP) is on the BSEP slot for Sv 53 today. It's the 0659 slot that's BSEP for Sv 53 from what I saw today. Back at Dr 1 Blk 197 bus stop at 0803hrs. Taking into account the jam at Loyang & the fact the this bus didn't bunch, yeah should be the 0659 slot. Could it be same case as 3319M?
BNDEP tendency deploy the only BSEP SP (3319M so far) it has, then the rest use other WABs to sub the missing bus. What I observed so far uh.
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Originally posted by service_238:
12? 3319M is spare from dec 2012 batch. and probably still spare. so far none of the spare BSEP buses went to perm any service except 6314 to 50 i think? (need to do Sv 50 schedule to determine)
3319M still on Sv 12 today though, same timing as what I posted yesterday. Hmm. Not sure if it's temp replacement for 3331B or not, that 3331B hasn't came out yet.
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Sv 354 is still using 6356K & 6357H. No change.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
3319M still on Sv 12 today though, same timing as what I posted yesterday. Hmm. Not sure if it's temp replacement for 3331B or not, that 3331B hasn't came out yet.
wait and see lor...
6344 took the most epic stunt of not being seen on its perm 103, and not even on 116! it was finally out yesterday. cameos are usually 116 buses as when 116 was introduced, there's a spare bus 6328.
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88 receives Citaros
SBS3330D went to 22 instead. -
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Same idea with Sv 12 previously I guess? Splitting the load out across the timings seems to be the case..
88 got Citaros and it is weird. Citaro can hardly squeeze in 65-70 pax when the load on 88 is so high in so many sectors. Even with distribution with putting more buses, hardly helps coz there is always spot loading at Bishan, AMK, Pasir Ris and many other stops.The Citaro will only create schedule disruption and bunching as the bus ahead will wait at every stop to squeeze in pax. Is this the enhancement and comfortable ride BSEP promises? You can flame me on this but I think horrible decision to add Citaros on a service like 88 and rather have so many B9TLs on 50, and those 2 useless ones on 119.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
154 just got an additional DD last month, making it 50% DD fleet.i thought SD?
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Does anyone know the timings for the BSEP buses on 53 and 88?
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From SBS8533C:
SMB3031B
(WLDEP 75) -
SMB3030D > KJDEP 190. Onboard this bus just now.
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Originally posted by SBS6301T:
Does anyone know the timings for the BSEP buses on 53 and 88?
I just posted above the timings I spotted 6314G on Sv 53. Read the posts abit more carefully first? Unless you're asking for PM Peak? Anyway, 0659 Pasir Ris Dr 12 to CGA. 0803hrs Dr 1 Blk 197 to Bishan. Add 1 hour 10mins or more to reach Bishan during Peak usually.
Anyway if you can't track still (assuming you want PM Peak), just find 8609T. It's the 2nd slot usually after 8609T. -
Originally posted by service_238:
6350 prob 100 since its on 43 today
6350B still on Sv 43 yesterday (19 Feb) as well. Weird.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
6350B still on Sv 43 yesterday (19 Feb) as well. Weird.
maybe another bus was doing sv 100.
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Btw which bus is the BSEP addition for 123?