Originally posted by TIB 501 D:858 can be slow sometimes, but with the MANs coming in... I think the service has gotten a little faster, but I'm not sure... The only thing abt 858 is frequency, nothing else...
The plump Indian SL driving AMDEP 961... drives like I dunno how many trips sia, pity him...
I remember there a plump Chinese guy and a tall Chinese gu who drove AM 961. Indian i cnt recall though. Maybe he drove 536D
Originally posted by TIB 585L:I remember there a plump Chinese guy and a tall Chinese gu who drove AM 961. Indian i cnt recall though. Maybe he drove 536D
Sometimes the tall chinese gu also drives 501D, also quite fast...
Originally posted by TIB 585L:161 took from Woodlands to Hougang but hurts badly. 965 and 969 really fast service. One time i took 1220H from Woodlands to Tampines. Unbelivable i counted 35 mins and no standees due to 531S take all the pax in front.
I remembered once I took a 161 Batch 2B WEG2 from WDL to HG... When the bus reached HG I could barely stand up and was really struggling to climb down the stairs...
BusAnalyzer lied to us that 25 was faster than 854 and 161 was faster than 969!!! But 168 is quite fast actually...
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:I remembered once I took a 161 Batch 2B WEG2 from WDL to HG... When the bus reached HG I could barely stand up and was really struggling to climb down the stairs...
BusAnalyzer lied to us that 25 was faster than 854 and 161 was faster than 969!!! But 168 is quite fast actually...
I can't believe how retarded BusAnalyzer is. Not because of his stupidness, but because of his retarded decision to name himself liddat when he know that his analysing is shit.
No matter where u go, just remember that in speed, SMRT > SBST thanks to those crazy drivers who drove their buses in SMRT. 969's flying fishes can never be behind 161's buses.
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Worse, my butt hurts whenever I ride services 39, 72, 81, 161(Batch 2B Wrights)... and one more svc I forgot... Terribly slow-_- I do admire the 161 VO3Xs though...
965 and 969 beats the sh!t out of 39, 81 and 161 on SLE/TPE!!!
At least 961 is a REAAAAAAAALY fast service to make up for the overkilling route...
You left out 53. That one is real tortoise.
53 is not tortoise if it's citaros.
if kub you can say real tortoise
Oh yeah, I forgot one- Service 23.
Actually, I boarded a 53 Citaro from Pasir Ris Dr 1 to Bishan Int and it was quite fast actually...
Originally posted by TIB 585L:I remember there a plump Chinese guy and a tall Chinese gu who drove AM 961. Indian i cnt recall though. Maybe he drove 536D
Originally posted by SMB128B:I can't believe how retarded BusAnalyzer is. Not because of his stupidness, but because of his retarded decision to name himself liddat when he know that his analysing is shit.
No matter where u go, just remember that in speed, SMRT > SBST thanks to those crazy drivers who drove their buses in SMRT. 969's flying fishes can never be behind 161's buses.
Disclaimer: Off topic, not wanting to start flamewars.
Hanor... He wanted to deploy DDs on SMRT feeders when he actually knows that 912/913's pax are short haul, then he denies it by calling the intratowns "longer" than SBST townlinks.
Then he say it's a myth that DDs won't do well in CCK, WDL and YIS.
And he also say it's a myth that bendies are faster than DDs, LIKE REAL ARH!!! I TOOK 969 BENDY FEW DAYS AGO AND IT OVERTOOK ALL THE BUSES LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS... Besides bendies have higher torque than VO3X, but for some reason the Batch 2B WEG2s are slower even with the higher torque output...
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Disclaimer: Off topic, not wanting to start flamewars.
Hanor... He wanted to deploy DDs on SMRT feeders when he actually knows that 912/913's pax are short haul, then he denies it by calling the intratowns "longer" than SBST townlinks.
Then he say it's a myth that DDs won't do well in CCK, WDL and YIS.
And he also say it's a myth that bendies are faster than DDs, LIKE REAL ARH!!! I TOOK 969 BENDY FEW DAYS AGO AND IT OVERTOOK ALL THE BUSES LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS... Besides bendies have higher torque than VO3X, but for some reason the Batch 2B WEG2s are slower even with the higher torque output...
Please understand that SBST's attitude towards scheduling is different compared to SMRT's attitude towards scheduling. SMRT's schedules are as tight as possible and that is why the driver has to (dangerously) speed and go very fast, in the process breaking speed limit laws. On the other hand, SBST tends to be much more relaxed in their scheduling, the drivers do not have to drive flagrantly fast in order to keep up with schedule. Comparing SBST's DDs and SMRT's bendies speeds on highways is comparing chalk and cheese. And it occurs to me SBST does down-tune the engines of their buses in order to prolong the service life of the transmission.
Originally posted by SMB189A:
Last time, 536D was speeding like hell untill got accident..
456B also kena accident while on 961 if i recall correctly then chg EDS
961 problems always from Wldep starters and timekeepers..
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Disclaimer: Off topic, not wanting to start flamewars.
Hanor... He wanted to deploy DDs on SMRT feeders when he actually knows that 912/913's pax are short haul, then he denies it by calling the intratowns "longer" than SBST townlinks.
Then he say it's a myth that DDs won't do well in CCK, WDL and YIS.
And he also say it's a myth that bendies are faster than DDs, LIKE REAL ARH!!! I TOOK 969 BENDY FEW DAYS AGO AND IT OVERTOOK ALL THE BUSES LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS... Besides bendies have higher torque than VO3X, but for some reason the Batch 2B WEG2s are slower even with the higher torque output...
WDL Feeders/Intratowns can NEVER have DDs. ESPECIALLY 900/911/913.
913 for example. The boarding and unloading process for a bendy at Admiralty Stn takes about only 30 seconds. Cannot believe how long would it have taken had it been a DD doing that svc. I have alr observed enough chaos at Bedok Stn, everyday the buses behind have to wait... just for a single 222 DD to unload and board all of its pax.
And TIB868X should be right - people normally will speed when they are in the pressure of keeping up tight schedules. However, this still proves that SMRT buses are much faster that SBST buses. BusAnalyzer had "analyzed" shit here.
Is bus 985 running behind schedule?Just curious to know if it is
For all the talk about who drives faster and what....its a fact that 965 and 969 have got rubbish frequency compared to 161 and 168.
Of the 4 services, the slowest driving 161 is actually the most reliable. The worst is 965.
And yes.
There are times when 25 goes faster than 854, but quite frankly its not that often.
What happens more often with 854 is the SL speeding and not picking up angry pax.
Apparently that's the kind of rubbish a lot of people here pick.
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Disclaimer: Off topic, not wanting to start flamewars.
Hanor... He wanted to deploy DDs on SMRT feeders when he actually knows that 912/913's pax are short haul, then he denies it by calling the intratowns "longer" than SBST townlinks.
Then he say it's a myth that DDs won't do well in CCK, WDL and YIS.
And he also say it's a myth that bendies are faster than DDs, LIKE REAL ARH!!! I TOOK 969 BENDY FEW DAYS AGO AND IT OVERTOOK ALL THE BUSES LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS... Besides bendies have higher torque than VO3X, but for some reason the Batch 2B WEG2s are slower even with the higher torque output...
Oh right... you don't want to start a flame war... hence, you start picking on people and start bashing them. The retards are you guys. Bendy fancy boys who want to prove bendies are the best no matter what...
On 168, it is faster than 969 if you want to go to Woodlands Int... Suck it up!! When 25 and 854 are along Hougang Ave 2, there is no difference in the time. I NEVER said 25 is faster. Don't misconstrue the facts. Ofcourse, unless as 2601D mentioned, 854 overtakes without taking pax, which it is notorious of.
Silly bendy boys!!
Originally posted by SMB128B:WDL Feeders/Intratowns can NEVER have DDs. ESPECIALLY 900/911/913.
913 for example. The boarding and unloading process for a bendy at Admiralty Stn takes about only 30 seconds. Cannot believe how long would it have taken had it been a DD doing that svc. I have alr observed enough chaos at Bedok Stn, everyday the buses behind have to wait... just for a single 222 DD to unload and board all of its pax.
And TIB868X should be right - people normally will speed when they are in the pressure of keeping up tight schedules. However, this still proves that SMRT buses are much faster that SBST buses. BusAnalyzer had "analyzed" shit here.
All you care about is speed... that's all the shit you care about... ofcourse, its all your immaturity that speaks... Thanks for starting the flame war... I don't pin point on your stupid conclusions on bendies... but if you like it this way... be it...
Originally posted by carbikebus:961 problems always from Wldep starters and timekeepers..
111 during peak hours . 64 as well!
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Oh right... you don't want to start a flame war... hence, you start picking on people and start bashing them. The retards are you guys. Bendy fancy boys who want to prove bendies are the best no matter what...
On 168, it is faster than 969 if you want to go to Woodlands Int... Suck it up!! When 25 and 854 are along Hougang Ave 2, there is no difference in the time. I NEVER said 25 is faster. Don't misconstrue the facts. Ofcourse, unless as 2601D mentioned, 854 overtakes without taking pax, which it is notorious of.
Silly bendy boys!!
Did I say I wanted to prove bendies are the best? Which post did you see me doing that??? All I wanted to say is all SDs, DDs and bendies are equal, it's just the matter of deploying the right bus to the right service to suit passenger needs, like Service 913 of course. Bendies for all SMRT feeders and intratowns. The trunk services can have DDs, while the low demand services can have SDs, and those with restrictions of course, like Service 200.
I did not compare the whole route of 168 to 969, but instead compare both of them at TPE itself. 969 was meant to ferry passengers from Yishun to Tampines, not from WDL to TAM. The commuters at YIS would rather take 969 than that snail pace service 39...
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Did I say I wanted to prove bendies are the best? Which post did you see me doing that??? All I wanted to say is all SDs, DDs and bendies are equal, it's just the matter of deploying the right bus to the right service to suit passenger needs, like Service 913 of course. Bendies for all SMRT feeders and intratowns. The trunk services can have DDs, while the low demand services can have SDs, and those with restrictions of course, like Service 200.
I did not compare the whole route of 168 to 969, but instead compare both of them at TPE itself. 969 was meant to ferry passengers from Yishun to Tampines, not from WDL to TAM. The commuters at YIS would rather take 969 than that snail pace service 39...
You did say bendies are the best. Go and look at what you write on your home page of userid TIB501D. Though you never claimed it properly, it still means bendies are the best. Now I understand why SBS1000U disagress with you. Plus there's no need to deploy bendy or DD when the loading is high. It's just a matter of which high capacity buses they use. Even after so long, you still dont understand why SBST cant buy bendies and why SMRT cant buy DDs. And how are you 100% sure people would take 969 instead of 39. 39 is there to help 969 tank the load in the first place. If 969 is full, people wouldn't want to waste their time to wait for the next 969. They will take 39 instead. And 39 is slow because it's using buses with low hp. Just kick out those low hp buses and kick in those high hp buses, and the matter is solved. Simple as that.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:All you care about is speed... that's all the shit you care about... ofcourse, its all your immaturity that speaks... Thanks for starting the flame war... I don't pin point on your stupid conclusions on bendies... but if you like it this way... be it...
Both effeciency(speed) and safety(speed control) play a part. What if a service is considered "safe driving" but is terribly slow? That's how service 161 is... 161 and 969 travel roughly the same distance, but 161 is pathetically slow in that sense. 168 is faster because of the route and not the bus type or bus chassis, as 969 passes by WDL, Gambas Ave and YIS before turning left to SLE.
I don't expect every bus to like "die die must speed above 70", because safety also plays a part in this. However, have you ever experienced the snail paces of services 23, 39, 72, 81 and 161? Ouch! My butt hurts whenever I ride these services(full journey or at least 3/4 of the journey), worse than standing all the way onboard 965 or 969... At least I like 168 which has both effeciency and safety, and also at the same time proves to be a very reliable service.
Have you ever observed the boarding and alighting of service 222 at Bedok Stn, or even 154 and 183 holding up all the buses behind at Clementi Station. Even if you use 3 doors DD, still have to climb down the steep and narrow stairs...
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Both effeciency(speed) and safety(speed control) play a part. What if a service is considered "safe driving" but is terribly slow? That's how service 161 is... 161 and 969 travel roughly the same distance, but 161 is pathetically slow in that sense. 168 is faster because of the route and not the bus type or bus chassis, as 969 passes by WDL, Gambas Ave and YIS before turning left to SLE.
I don't expect every bus to like "die die must speed above 70", because safety also plays a part in this. However, have you ever experienced the snail paces of services 23, 39, 72, 81 and 161? Ouch! My butt hurts whenever I ride these services(full journey or at least 3/4 of the journey), worse than standing all the way onboard 965 or 969... At least I like 168 which has both effeciency and safety, and also at the same time proves to be a very reliable service.
Have you ever observed the boarding and alighting of service 222 at Bedok Stn, or even 154 and 183 holding up all the buses behind at Clementi Station. Even if you use 3 doors DD, still have to climb down the steep and narrow stairs...
Better safe than sorry.
Originally posted by SBS 6078 M:You did say bendies are the best. Go and look at what you write on your home page of userid TIB501D. Though you never claimed it properly, it still means bendies are the best. Now I understand why SBS1000U disagress with you. Plus there's no need to deploy bendy or DD when the loading is high. It's just a matter of which high capacity buses they use. Even after so long, you still dont understand why SBST cant buy bendies and why SMRT cant buy DDs. And how are you 100% sure people would take 969 instead of 39. 39 is there to help 969 tank the load in the first place. If 969 is full, people wouldn't want to waste their time to wait for the next 969. They will take 39 instead. And 39 is slow because it's using buses with low hp. Just kick out those low hp buses and kick in those high hp buses, and the matter is solved. Simple as that.
Okay, I did say bendies were the best based on personal likes or dislikes, but I did not mean that bendies are the best PRACTICALLY.
My userid homepage was intended to be a joke, not reality, and that is also based on personal preference and not how practical it is.
Plus, I actually wanted for both companies to remain using their own type of high capacity bus in future, but then again... if I type this on the DD4SMRT topic, I will get blasted by people that wanted to say that there is no rule that SMRT cannot buy DDs, then I had no choice but to follow suit with their way of thinking that SMRT should have both high capacity buses, basically to avoid getting flamed by others.
Originally posted by TIB 501 D:Okay, I did say bendies were the best based on personal likes or dislikes, but I did not mean that bendies are the best PRACTICALLY.
My userid homepage was intended to be a joke, not reality, and that is also based on personal preference and not how practical it is.
Plus, I actually wanted for both companies to remain using their own type of high capacity bus in future, but then again... if I type this on the DD4SMRT topic, I will get blasted by people that wanted to say that there is no rule that SMRT cannot buy DDs, then I had no choice but to follow suit with their way of thinking that SMRT should have both high capacity buses, basically to avoid getting flamed by others.
Not everything can be taken as a joke.
Like that John Cheng, before his getai performance, he lied about his heart attack, etc. And during the procedure of the getai, he died of an heart attack.
This is a forum, and facts are presented here. Even if you lied, it is a FACT that you want to lie.