Club: Bus Interchange & Terminals

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 13:03

  I would like to discuss in this thread about bus intechange and terminals.

  1. Which terminals / interchanges need changes?

  2. Route changes to terminate / originate from particular terminal / int?

  3. Refurbishment of terminals / int?

  4. Joon Koon - predict services

  5. Suggest new terminals / interchanges - such as Kovan or Expo and which routes to call at these?

• SBS2656X

  28 Nov 12, 13:12

  Hougang Int needs change... Can get very hot in the afternoon and evening - the sunlight can reach the office.

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 13:20

  Originally posted by SBS2656X:

  Hougang Int needs change... Can get very hot in the afternoon and evening - the sunlight can reach the office.

  
  Yes Hougang needs an integrated interchange with mall / Fairprice and has to be airconditioned.

  Just that right now HG is a big interchange. With developments, it is noticed that the interchanges are shrinking in size.

  During evening peak you can see buses at HG interchange waiting for another bus to leave to park. BC has to waste another 3-4 mins just to find parking. If Hougang South Terminal / Interchange re-opens, it will take off some load from HG.

• SBS7888K(SBS3174M too)

  28 Nov 12, 14:38

  JOO KOON:

  SV 154:EUNOS>JOO KOON

  SV 157:TOA PAYOH>JOO KOON

  SV 160:KOTARAYA II>JOO KOON

  SV 182:BOON LAY>JOO KOON(Plies Tuas Chkpt)

  SV 182M(Plies Tuas Chkpt):

  JOO KOON>

  JURONG WEST ST 64/JURONG WEST CTRL 2/3/BOON LAY WAY(LOOP)

  (DOES NOT ENTER BOON LAY INT)

  

• SBS7888K(SBS3174M too)

  28 Nov 12, 14:40

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  
  Yes Hougang needs an integrated interchange with mall / Fairprice and has to be airconditioned.

  Just that right now HG is a big interchange. With developments, it is noticed that the interchanges are shrinking in size.

  During evening peak you can see buses at HG interchange waiting for another bus to leave to park. BC has to waste another 3-4 mins just to find parking. If Hougang South Terminal / Interchange re-opens, it will take off some load from HG.

  Hougang St 21 FC>Hougang South Terminal (renamed)

  SV 112 SV 113 SV 116 SV 132 SV 165 SV 325

  shift to hg sth

• SBS2656X

  28 Nov 12, 15:15

  Originally posted by SBS7888K(SBS3174M too):

  Hougang St 21 FC>Hougang South Terminal (renamed)

  SV 112 SV 113 SV 116 SV 132 SV 165 SV 325

  shift to hg sth

  That piece of land is claimed back by the Gvmt already. 
  Quite redundant for some of the services above mentioned to move.
  
  112 would need to be renamed as 321 or another feeder, 115 will be renamed as 323?
  116 may have to be withdrawn with this move.

• SBS9252G

  28 Nov 12, 15:38

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  
  Yes Hougang needs an integrated interchange with mall / Fairprice and has to be airconditioned.

  Just that right now HG is a big interchange. With developments, it is noticed that the interchanges are shrinking in size.

  During evening peak you can see buses at HG interchange waiting for another bus to leave to park. BC has to waste another 3-4 mins just to find parking. If Hougang South Terminal / Interchange re-opens, it will take off some load from HG.

  Hougang is actually planned to have integrated interchange.

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 16:16

  Originally posted by SBS7888K(SBS3174M too):

  Hougang St 21 FC>Hougang South Terminal (renamed)

  SV 112 SV 113 SV 116 SV 132 SV 165 SV 325

  shift to hg sth

  
  What would be the routes of these services?

  svc 112 - I would suggest no change

  svc 113 - HG South Terminal - Upper Paya Laber (loop) or loop at Serangoon Central (extension)

  svc 116 - new. no change.

  svc 165 - why HG South? svc takes HG Ave 4 & 8, not HG Ave 2

  svc 132 - may be a good option, but loses link between HG Int and HG Ave 2 (only 325)

  svc 325 - Highly recommended - coz it is weird the way the route is right now. Better to start from Kovan than HG.

• carbikebus

  28 Nov 12, 17:19

  City area need a terminal,Marina need proper terminal

• smrtbsbs

  28 Nov 12, 17:30

  Originally posted by SBS2656X:

  That piece of land is claimed back by the Gvmt already. 
  Quite redundant for some of the services above mentioned to move.
  
  112 would need to be renamed as 321 or another feeder, 115 will be renamed as 323?
  116 may have to be withdrawn with this move.

  Agree. The garment closed down hg south interchange based on the basis that hougang new town is too small for 2 bus interchanges. So do you think that they will eat their own words by opening it again?

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 17:40

  Ideally Little India, Dhoby Ghaut need terminals if not interchanges.

  Govt* needs to eat its own words. HG interchange is congested now. Need one at Kovan for sure. Serangoon Int also is so small - need a bigger one.

  Marina Center needs a proper terminal.

  Changi Airport needs a DD friendly AC bus interchange.

• TIB 501 D

  28 Nov 12, 17:44

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Ideally Little India, Dhoby Ghaut need terminals if not interchanges.

  Govt* needs to eat its own words. HG interchange is congested now. Need one at Kovan for sure. Serangoon Int also is so small - need a bigger one.

  Marina Center needs a proper terminal.

  Changi Airport needs a DD friendly AC bus interchange.

  For Little India, there's Queen St Ter.

• SBS6305H

  28 Nov 12, 18:04

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Ideally Little India, Dhoby Ghaut need terminals if not interchanges.

  Govt* needs to eat its own words. HG interchange is congested now. Need one at Kovan for sure. Serangoon Int also is so small - need a bigger one.

  Marina Center needs a proper terminal.

  Changi Airport needs a DD friendly AC bus interchange.

  There is going to be a marina south AC interchange. U tink Changi Airport can have DD friendly terminal? IT IS UNDER THE AIRPORT! Want to bulid dd friendly interchange how? Remove the pillars and move the buliding up? And why does Sgoon Interchange need a bigger interchange for? 

• 201911

  28 Nov 12, 18:11

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  City area need a terminal,Marina need proper terminal

  Think there are plans for big interchange in Marina South as one of the new aircon bus int, maybe near Marina Bay MRT... can have the services from Marina Centre, Shenton Way and maybe Lorong 1 Geylang terminating there

• SBS8501U

  28 Nov 12, 20:04

  Originally posted by TIB 501 D:

  For Little India, there's Queen St Ter.

  But it's only available for JB services and 1 SBST Svc 170. Furthermore, parking lots very few, 5 for SBST and 3 to 4 lots for the others.

• TIB 501 D

  28 Nov 12, 20:08

  Originally posted by SBS8501U:

  But it's only available for JB services and 1 SBST Svc 170. Furthermore, parking lots very few, 5 for SBST and 3 to 4 lots for the others.

  Maybe somewhere near Rangoon Rd that area? Looks like an open space to me, but maybe too far away from the MRT...

• SMB195G

  28 Nov 12, 20:09

  A terminal at Kranji Stn? Amaciam?

• carbikebus

  28 Nov 12, 21:12

  Need one at Poyan river 

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 22:25

  Originally posted by SBS6305H:

  There is going to be a marina south AC interchange. U tink Changi Airport can have DD friendly terminal? IT IS UNDER THE AIRPORT! Want to bulid dd friendly interchange how? Remove the pillars and move the buliding up? And why does Sgoon Interchange need a bigger interchange for? 

  The interchange can be outside - does not need to be in the basement.

  Ofcourse, Serangoon needs a bigger interchange. Have you even seen it? There is no scope to add any more services there. Just with 7-8 services, interchange is fully occupied.

• BusAnalayzer

  28 Nov 12, 22:26

  Originally posted by SMB195G:

  A terminal at Kranji Stn? Amaciam?

  
  Yup. I think so too. Kranji station should have terminal for JB service and some of the WDL feeder.

• SBS2601D

  28 Nov 12, 22:26

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Need one at Poyan river 

  Ya.

  Down there, Master Plan has already demarcated for housing estate.

• SBS5011L

  28 Nov 12, 22:52

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  
  What would be the routes of these services?

  svc 112 - I would suggest no change

  svc 113 - HG South Terminal - Upper Paya Laber (loop) or loop at Serangoon Central (extension)

  svc 116 - new. no change.

  svc 165 - why HG South? svc takes HG Ave 4 & 8, not HG Ave 2

  svc 132 - may be a good option, but loses link between HG Int and HG Ave 2 (only 325)

  svc 325 - Highly recommended - coz it is weird the way the route is right now. Better to start from Kovan than HG.

  
  325's route is weird because it loops one big round just to get to hougang mall from hougang interchange Which is longer than 113's routing... Plus i can walk to 325's loop point or hougang st 91 in 15mins.. Besides, people prefer to take 74/113/147 to HCI from hg ave 6 instead of 325
• TIB 501 D

  28 Nov 12, 22:56

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  The interchange can be outside - does not need to be in the basement.

  Ofcourse, Serangoon needs a bigger interchange. Have you even seen it? There is no scope to add any more services there. Just with 7-8 services, interchange is fully occupied.

  One problem- There are lots of airplane runways...

• MoltenFalcon

  28 Nov 12, 23:42

  Originally posted by TIB 501 D:

  One problem- There are lots of airplane runways...

  How about just building it next to/under the future Terminal 4?

  Can raise the height because it's still not really under construction.

  Shenton Way Terminal also needs some improvements IMHO.

• TIB 501 D

  28 Nov 12, 23:48

  Originally posted by MoltenFalcon:

  How about just building it next to/under the future Terminal 4?

  Can raise the height because it's still not really under construction.

  Shenton Way Terminal also needs some improvements IMHO.