SMRT drivers' strike
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
OMFG post pic plzzzzzzzz!!!!!
Log in to www.yourechinaboyeatshitandcockroaches.com.cn
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So tomorrow how many MC again?
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tml??? this one is really mata come alrdy... mata report alrdy made... the worst thing is.. SMRT been keeping the figures..
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What you mean keep the figures?
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Originally posted by charlize:
So tomorrow how many MC again?
But tomorrow still no enough SL!!! SBS SL may cameo SMRT Citaro again tomorrow ultra rare TTM must snap pic!!!!!!! -
Oh Ho so they give a hoot also huh
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From 60 SL to 88 :/
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Originally posted by SMB189A:
From 60 SL to 88 :/
102 skipping to 171 skipping~~
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
But tomorrow still no enough SL!!! SBS SL may cameo SMRT Citaro again tomorrow ultra rare TTM must snap pic!!!!!!!Not enough then call trainers/off day recall/technician to drive Lor!!!you can join in to drive oso
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Can't imagine if SBST ones follow suit to join their comrades and demand things.MM Lee sure interfere one
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Stern final warning I should say..sg invest heavily there so in a way have to watch its step too as we know China is very defensive
If it was a Singaporean BC he'd probably have faced ISA. -
This time around they're serious huh
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Originally posted by SMB195G:
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SMRT managed to get 95 per cent of its bus services running today despite about 60 China-born bus drivers not turning up for work.
The operator used drivers from competitor SBS Transit and standby drivers, it was revealed at a Ministry of Manpower press conference that has concluded
On Monday, when 102 drivers refused to work because of unhappiness over salary, SMRT got 90 per cent of its services running.
Acting Minister Tan Chuan-Jin had harsh words for the drivers at the conference, reiterating that their action was "unacceptable".
The illegal strike is being investigated by the police.
Mr Tan said that under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act, a strike of essential service workers is illegal if 14 days' notice was not given.
Under the Act, those found guilty can be fined not more than $2,000 and/or a prison term of not more than a year.
But SBST BC no drive bendy, only DD. How ah? -
Originally posted by Uraniumfish:
SBST drivers with SMRT uniform driving SMRT buses on SMRT routes.
I'd rather have SBST DDs on SMRT bendy routes, eg B9TL on 169. -
Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Talk is all empty.
In the end, what is the sentence is more important or they will be given a verbal warning ?
What do you think ?
I don't think the whole lot of striking workers (102 or 62) will get it. I'm sure some of them would be charged if they are found to have flouted the law (in the statement released by the MOM...the striking workers have clearly flouted the law...now I guess it's up to police to ascertain whom among the group was truly ill on thoese two days). Penalty is $2000 fine or maximum imprisonment of 12 months. Those found guilty of inciting the strike is liable for prosection too apparently. Anyway the worse case is some of them will be fined/given a short prison sentence. Those convicted, I doubt they would be able to continue to work in Singapore and have their work permits revoked and deported to China.
But what is worrying is whether the actions of these workers would inspire others to strike. Would their plight inspire their fellow Chinese nationals to stand in solidarity with them and call for a legal strike/illegal strike.
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If this happen prepare for anti SINGAPORE sentiment
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Originally posted by iveco:
But SBST BC no drive bendy, only DD. How ah?that explains why many high demand services used rigids...
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Good for singapore government, it a wake up call!!!!! poor management from smrt, thinking can employ china people cheaply. chinese are not stupid. create a bad image for singapore company. even the strike is illegal, but the way how smrt threat it workers it very bad, that is a lesson for smrt and GLCs.
I think nobody want to work in singapore any more!!! you all can say finally no FT but will singaporean drive public bus with low salary? will singaporean work in contruction site? will singaporean clean up streets or hawkers centre or toilet?
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There's always Burmese,Thai or any other national who are anytime delight to work here,Not just China
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
If this happen prepare for anti SINGAPORE sentiment
There is anti-Singapore sentiment amongst some Chinese netizens.
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I think some ppl here dun get it... doesn't mean by using the law, what goes on at the other end is correct...
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Don't think they will escaped unscathed even though they used the law to pressure SMRT.
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UPDATE on Wed 28/11: All drivers who went on strike on Monday have returned to work on Wednesday morning.
While bus captains from China do work the same hours as drivers of other nationalities, it's fair that they are paid less because they get transportation and housing, say some SMRT bus drivers.
Speaking to Yahoo! Singapore on an anonymous basis on Tuesday, several Singaporean and Malaysian bus drivers in general voiced this sentiment in the wake of Monday’s full-day Chinese bus drivers’ strike.
“(Chinese bus drivers) shouldn’t be paid the same amount (as Malaysians) because they have lodging here,” said one Singaporean driver who has been with SMRT for four years. “They also have transport to and fro, whereas Malaysians have to travel back home across the Causeway every day.”
“They (Chinese and Malaysian nationals) probably shouldn’t be earning the same amount since they (the Chinese) are provided with accommodation,” echoed another local bus captain, who has worked with both SBS Transit and SMRT over more than 20 years.
Noting further that the terms for salary arrangements would have been agreed upon before the drivers first came to Singapore, he said that if they were not violated or changed in any way upon their arrival, the drivers in question should by right have nothing to complain about.
Other drivers adopted a more moderate view of the situation, however, and said they could see where the striking bus captains were coming from.
"I do think they should earn equal pay," said a 60-year-old Singaporean driver, who has worked more than 10 years with SMRT. "After all, they work the same hours and have the same duties."
Another local bus captain said he felt that it would be fair for the transport operator to up the pay of the Chinese drivers by a certain percentage, but taking into account additional accommodation costs, he, too, said it should eventually still come to below the amount Malaysian drivers earn.
"They could maybe negotiate a small increment, maybe up to 20 to 30 per cent less than Malaysian drivers given the accommodation issue," he said. "I do think their pay system should be fairer but at the same time I think it's a tough situation."
One Malaysian bus driver who spoke to Yahoo! Singapore was visibly annoyed at Monday's strike, saying the move to do so was "irresponsible and uncalled for".
"First of all, they should have approached the management first to discuss things," he said. "Going on strike is illegal and we all understand that."
He shared that starting out as a bus driver here, his base pay was about $650 a month. Coupled with a twice-daily commute between Johor and work, he said Malaysian bus drivers don't have it as easy as their Chinese colleagues, for whom accommodation and transport is provided to and from their respective bus depots.
"We (Malaysians) have been here for more than 10 years, how can they compare with us?" he asked. "Even if a Malaysian and a Chinese driver have the same amount of experience, housing rental isn't cheap here -- it eventually adds up."
In fact, he said, if any comparison should be done, it should be between Chinese and new Singaporean drivers, who are offered significantly more in pay than drivers of any other nationality.
"In any case, Indian bus drivers (who hold PR) are paid the same as us -- they also have to settle their own housing arrangements," he said. "Why only pinpoint us? Why drag us into this?"
Asked for her views on the strike, however, one female driver from China said she fully supported it, but did not join it for fear of losing her job.
"They may say that we are given accommodation, but have you seen the accommodation they give us? It isn't fit for humans," she said in Mandarin. "Eight of us share a room, and there isn't any walking space between our beds. I've also been bitten by rats and insects on multiple occasions before."
Nonetheless, she said all that is still bearable compared to the disparity in pay they receive for their work.
"This really is unfair to us. We do the exact same work, work for the same number of hours and yet we don't receive the same compensation. Our living conditions back home are far, far better than they are here."
On Monday, more than 170 SMRT bus captains from China went on a full-day strike at their Woodlands dormitories to protest the disparity in pay they received compared to their Malaysian counterparts.
While some of them returned to work on Tuesday, almost 90 of them persisted in their strike, as trade union representatives attempted to mediate discussions between them and SMRT.
The transport operator said in a statement on Tuesday evening that it has also filed a police report over "possible breaches of the law", while conducting internal investigations to determine whether or not employment terms had been breached. -
"They may say that we are given accommodation, but have you seen the accommodation they give us? It isn't fit for humans," she said in Mandarin. "Eight of us share a room, and there isn't any walking space between our beds. I've also been bitten by rats and insects on multiple occasions before."
Reminds me of my NS days.