Lay-up and refurbishment of SBST's Volvo B10M Mk IV Strider
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Replacements for these are likely to be non-WABs though..except for probably 158 which already has Citaros.
Point to note, 1908B just had its Moove Skyliner boards removed as of the past weekend. Hmm.
There are already so many WAB buses in SBST fleet. More likely to be WAB buses. -
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Replacements for these are likely to be non-WABs though..except for probably 158 which already has Citaros.
Point to note, 1908B just had its Moove Skyliner boards removed as of the past weekend. Hmm.
Well the DM on 119 still has the Moove Skyliner. A KUB on 80 also received the ad.
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I believe SBS1910T is gonecase long ago as it have not been seen on the roads shortly after being transferred to BBDEP/ARBP from SLBP.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
There are already so many WAB buses in SBST fleet. More likely to be WAB buses.Look at it from the point-of-view from the starter and person doing up the e-timetables. I'm not saying those services might not get new WABs, in fact for 100 I think it might even get a KUB/Citaro. But wouldn't it much easier for the starter to put in a Mk4 SP from the fleet to replace an outgoing Strider? They won't have to do any changes for the WAB timetable if that happens.
And it's quite a waste if those Mk4 SPs from HG aren't deployed since they're going soon even with extension. And if you do look at it, they have a whole lot of Mk4 SPs now..
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As of yesterday, SBS1906G (159) and SBS1908B (89) not repainted.
SBS1941D (11) seems to be refurbished with a new set of K230UB styled rego plates.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Replacements for these are likely to be non-WABs though..except for probably 158 which already has Citaros.
Point to note, 1908B just had its Moove Skyliner boards removed as of the past weekend. Hmm.
100 would most probably get some of ex-27 K230UBs also to boost up WAB fleet.
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Volvo B10M Mark IV (Walter Alexander Strider)
Lifespan Extended To 7 November 2014:
SBS1911R - SBS1913K, SBS1918Y, SBS1920P
Not Extended, De-Registering On 7 November 2012:
SBS1915E - SBS1917A, SBS1919U
Lifespan Extended To 13 November 2014:
SBS1922J, SBS1924D - SBS1928T
Not Extended, De-Registering On 13 November 2012:
SBS1923G
Lifespan Extended To 19 November 2014:
SBS1930K, SBS1931H
Not Extended, De-Registering On 19 November 2012:
SBS1929R, SBS1932ELifespan Extended To 23 November 2014:
SBS1933C - SBS1938P -
Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
As of yesterday, SBS1906G (159) and SBS1908B (89) not repainted.
SBS1941D (11) seems to be refurbished with a new set of K230UB styled rego plates.
In fact, the recently-repainted Striders in BNDEP (1934A, 1940G, 2603Z etc) all have the new rego-plates. Not just in HGDEP.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Volvo B10M Mark IV (Walter Alexander Strider)
Lifespan Extended To 7 November 2014:
SBS1911R - SBS1913K, SBS1918Y, SBS1920P
Not Extended, De-Registering On 7 November 2012:
SBS1915E - SBS1917A, SBS1919U
Lifespan Extended To 13 November 2014:
SBS1922J, SBS1924D - SBS1928T
Not Extended, De-Registering On 13 November 2012:
SBS1923G
Lifespan Extended To 19 November 2014:
SBS1930K, SBS1931H
Not Extended, De-Registering On 19 November 2012:
SBS1929R, SBS1932ELifespan Extended To 23 November 2014:
SBS1933C - SBS1938POkay, the ones I highlighted are particularly interesting. 1919U that one is in a way expected, cause logically (I'm looking from starter's POV) if Sv 31 is going to go WAB soon given what their BR-side has done with 9810X & 9889U into BR 31, 1919U that duty from BNDEP likely needs to go WAB soon. So that duty sooner or later will be replaced by a Citaro or sorts..
1929R (BN 358) not extended was really a huge surprise. Cause yes they did skip repainting this bus, but I thought it would be extended cause they cleaned the exterior of the restickered livery so well that it was gleaming brightly a few days back. So I thought they left out painting to clean the livery instead. And its interior condition + gearbox is honestly in comparable condition to 1896B of 359, so I really don't know why they are de-reging this bus. I guess being stuck on 196/196e all these 7 years while I was in this hobby really took a toll on its chassis..
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For BNDEP, I think it might be possible that they have been doing their repainting / lifespan extending process up till 2603Z already. There are some in between with ads (like 1972P 1985C 1991J 2593T) so can't tell yet. But for some like 1969A, 1974J which are not repainted yet despite the latter ones (like 1989S, 1990L, 1993D already repainted), I think they might be going.
For eg. 1969A has refurbed yellow seats from years ago. And the ducts are those before relocation, while the seat backs are of really appalling condition. So keep a lookout for those Striders in BNDEP before 2603Z and see if they get any refurbishment in any way or such.
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With regards to my previous post,
1974J (BN SP) is now repainted. Rear has the SBST words though. Today on Sv 18, together with 1940G. Seems like they want to put this bus into some service as perm soon, otherwise it's quite weird they repaint then still leave it to SP. But still, it's the wacky BNDEP.
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SBS1903P
(HG 103)
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1929R (BN 358)'s early lifespan expiry should be gearbox prob. Gearbox was trembling & shuddering at only 35-40kmh (the speedo was along that region when I glanced) while trying to cruise. Nothing to do with tyres cause it just feels different from uneven tyre wear.
Uh yes, and I realised finally that this bus still has grey A/C ducts while 1896B has red ducts. the telling sign that they chose not to refurb is that they actually covered the TVM speakers with the red cardboard/leather thingy, but they left the ducts still in the original grey trim. AFAIK, 1969A (BN 81) also has this treatment, so that bus might be going soon too.
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SBS1959D (BN 32) repainted with the rear SBST words. Former gloss-stickered,
Abit off-topic, but SBS2730P (BN 38) is also repainted from the previous matt-stickered livery. No idea why in the world are they also repainted DM3500s & VO3x Batch 3s (eg. 9649X) when they could resticker them again instead.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:1929R (BN 358)'s early lifespan expiry should be gearbox prob. Gearbox was trembling & shuddering at only 35-40kmh (the speedo was along that region when I glanced) while trying to cruise. Nothing to do with tyres cause it just feels different from uneven tyre wear.
Uh yes, and I realised finally that this bus still has grey A/C ducts while 1896B has red ducts. the telling sign that they chose not to refurb is that they actually covered the TVM speakers with the red cardboard/leather thingy, but they left the ducts still in the original grey trim. AFAIK, 1969A (BN 81) also has this treatment, so that bus might be going soon too.
Gearbox???Can't they just replace???
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Gearbox???Can't they just replace???
Do you think the B10M Gearboxes are still in production?
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Gearbox???Can't they just replace???
Yeah, 'SBS2656X' is right for once. Those gearboxes aren't in production anymore. It's not the same as gearboxes in cars. But I think it has something to do with the repair costs VS the revenue the bus will bring before it's dead at 19 years.
If the costs to find a new gearbox is too ex, I think they rather let the bus go off early than waste time find a new gearbox & then fit in onto 1929R. What's more, it's not like they have a lack of SP buses.
But some of the SBST MB O405s of old did have a mix of Voith & ZF gearboxes though after their initial ones died. But IIRC those were fitted before they were 17 years..so more economical sense I guess.
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Just when you thought SBS1909Z would not be extended...
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SBS1900Y, SBS1903P & SBS1904L deregistered as of 1225 hrs, 25 Oct 2012.
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Originally posted by TIB987K:
SBS1900Y, SBS1903P & SBS1904L deregistered as of 1225 hrs, 25 Oct 2012.
Most probably early de-registration due to unofficially laid up.
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
Just when you thought SBS1909Z would not be extended...
Woah...last minute lifespan extension.
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
Just when you thought SBS1909Z would not be extended...
Guess they found that it's better compared to the rest that are deemed un-saveable.
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SBS1900Y (HGDEP 100)
SBS1901U (BRBP SP)
SBS1903P (HGDEP 103)
SBS1904L (HGDEP 100)
SBS1905J (HGDEP 158)
SBS1906G (HGDEP 159)
SBS1908B (HGDEP 89)
SBS1910T (ARBP 92)All deregistered
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
SBS1900Y (HGDEP 100)
SBS1901U (BRBP SP)
SBS1903P (HGDEP 103)
SBS1904L (HGDEP 100)
SBS1905J (HGDEP 158)
SBS1906G (HGDEP 159)
SBS1908B (HGDEP 89)
SBS1910T (ARBP 92)All deregistered
SBS1900Y, SBS1903P and SBS1904L are de-registered on 24 October 2012 while the rest are de-registered on the lifespan expiry date itself.