Sgwiki: "Short of Buses" and "Extra Buses" on some services?
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Sv 28 is still missing 1 BNDEP side bus as from Wiki. Not sure if BN 28 had a fleet reduction over the past months, but that missing slot has been listed on Wiki since early of the year.
think one of the spare citaros perm it..
then again alot of errors for SBST fleet size for many services that I have no time to comb thru every single one of them...
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Service 23 1 missing bus ever since SBS1943Z is gone
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Can someone verify the 1 missing bus for feeder 282? Sgwiki info had not been updated ever since SBS755G left early this year...
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
Can someone verify the 1 missing bus for feeder 282? Sgwiki info had not been updated ever since SBS755G left early this year...
If I am not wrong the replacement for SBS755G is SBS8053X and the 'missing' bus slot was previously done by SBS5152M before redeployed to ARBP 123.
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Sv 7 now has 24 bus, not 23. Fleet add in Nov. Xover details 2x 545, 1x 532, 1x 93.
Sv 14 has 26 buses, not 25. Computation error.
Sv 15 has 15 buses, not 16. No fleet add to this sv in 2012.
Sv 33 has 23 buses, not 24. Reduce 1 split (33/45) since Oct.
Sv 52 has 15 buses not 16. Last fleet addition was when 3152 3158 3169 came in.
Sv 55 has 17 buses, not 18.
Sv 60 has 14 buses, not 16.
Sv 64 has 11 buses, not 12. However, it will be 12 buses after a WAB fleet add from 2 Jan 2013.
Sv 70 has 26 buses, not 25.
Sv 72 has 27 buses, not 26. However, there will be fleet add of about 5 buses from 2 Jan 2013.
Sv 85 has 10 buses, not 9. Fleet add after withdrawal of 85 (AM Peak).
Sv 86 has 13 buses, not 14. There is only 1 BSEP bus on 86.
Sv 97 has 20 buses, short of 2 buses for 97, 1 bus for 97e.
Sv 98 has 18 buses. However there will be fleet add of 2 buses from 2 Jan 2013.
Sv 99 has 19 buses, not 18.
Sv 154 has 32 buses. Fleet add in Nov due to 154A.
Sv 179 full fleet is 28. add 2x 255, 1x 242 will make it 31 buses.
Sv 198 has 28 buses after fleet add in Nov due to removal of 243/198.
Sv 506 has 12 buses, fleet add somewhere in the middle of 2012.
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70: Fleet add ever since introduction of 70B apart from BSEP 3302K? One of the spare EEVs could have perm 70 somewhere...
85: 1 of the MK4s still with perm?
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 506 has 12 buses, fleet add somewhere in the middle of 2012.
SBS8078A (SLBP SP) is the possible fleet add on Express 506 since it had been operating on it consistently, with the other perm buses still spotted on the service.
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 179 full fleet is 28. add 2x 255, 1x 242 will make it 31 buses.
I think the 179 to 255 has ceased? cos there are 11 perm buses on service 255..
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Originally posted by service_238:
think one of the spare citaros perm it..
then again alot of errors for SBST fleet size for many services that I have no time to comb thru every single one of them...
Don't think so though that any of the SP Citaros are stuck on Sv 28...all 3 are still running around~ I think Sv 28 had a fleet cut to BN's side somewhere, that number of buses listed now IIRC was from the time when 2595M & 1926Z were still perm BN 28. Then idk what happen the Striders went out, 9277K went in or something like that, that's why the numbers doesn't tally now.
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 15 has 15 buses, not 16. No fleet add to this sv in 2012.
Sv 33 has 23 buses, not 24. Reduce 1 split (33/45) since Oct.
Sv 15 no fleet add in 2012 uh? Man, but I'm definitely sure 8189M is perm BN 15 now after going in Sv 15 in 2012. I always thought it was a fleet add cause there was a e-tt change right about the time it started to be stuck on Sv 15. Can't find any Sv 15 permer running around though if there's an extra bus somewhere.
Sv 33's cut 1 bus is from BN side right? If that's the case, I think I know which one is out already. -
Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
70: Fleet add ever since introduction of 70B apart from BSEP 3302K? One of the spare EEVs could have perm 70 somewhere...
85: 1 of the MK4s still with perm?
When 70B was introduced, they adjusted one of the split shift duties to do 70B only during AM Peak. Fleet size was unchanged then. When BSEP bus 3302 came in that's when the fleet addition came in. Problem with 70 now that I have is the WAB buses dont tally with the WAB blocks as there's an excess of 2-3 non-WAB buses running on WAB duties. But I find that a small issue, fleet size correct with the correct number of buses would be enough.
As for 85... probably 1987 is still perm while 8993 replaces 0963.
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Sv 15 no fleet add in 2012 uh? Man, but I'm definitely sure 8189M is perm BN 15 now after going in Sv 15 in 2012. I always thought it was a fleet add cause there was a e-tt change right about the time it started to be stuck on Sv 15. Can't find any Sv 15 permer running around though if there's an extra bus somewhere.
Sv 33's cut 1 bus is from BN side right? If that's the case, I think I know which one is out already.Sv 15 had 2 revisions in 2012 - 16 Jan was to adjust run time, 23 Jul was to add a morning downroute from Eunos to Marine Parade at 0609h. Both revisions saw a slight change in how the overnight parking blocks were assigned. but of course full fleet size of Sv 15 requires on the ground checking for the missing bus cos on paper, its 15 buses.
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Don't think so though that any of the SP Citaros are stuck on Sv 28...all 3 are still running around~ I think Sv 28 had a fleet cut to BN's side somewhere, that number of buses listed now IIRC was from the time when 2595M & 1926Z were still perm BN 28. Then idk what happen the Striders went out, 9277K went in or something like that, that's why the numbers doesn't tally now.
I think the missing one is probably one of the BN spare citaros. that duty does the morning downroute from Tampines Ave 9 to Tampines Int. needs verification. I didnt list Sv 28 as one of the services with fleet size issues as I believe the fleet size didnt change throughout the year.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:I think the 179 to 255 has ceased? cos there are 11 perm buses on service 255..
this one need to check on the xover timings, and probably PM peak for 255 when there's no xover between 255 and 179.
Originally posted by SBS7557R:SBS8078A (SLBP SP) is the possible fleet add on Express 506 since it had been operating on it consistently, with the other perm buses still spotted on the service.
yup 8078 is the fleet add.. sgwiki wasn't updated. When i did up the post ytd I did not edit anything in sgwiki.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Sv 15 no fleet add in 2012 uh? Man, but I'm definitely sure 8189M is perm BN 15 now after going in Sv 15 in 2012. I always thought it was a fleet add cause there was a e-tt change right about the time it started to be stuck on Sv 15. Can't find any Sv 15 permer running around though if there's an extra bus somewhere.
Sv 33's cut 1 bus is from BN side right? If that's the case, I think I know which one is out already.SBS1942B hasnt been on sv15 for a while unlike its other mark Ivs. 8189M havent seen a while too after it permed.
Is the extra bus for sv33 2600G? It has been running around, last saw it on feeder 229.
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 98 has 18 buses. However there will be fleet add of 2 buses from 2 Jan 2013.
Strange, two of its perm were on cameo today. SBS 7480C and 7482Y..
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 14 has 26 buses, not 25. Computation error.
Is the missing bus for sv14 3177E? It has been doing this bus more often than not. 3204K has been also seen frequently on it.
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Originally posted by Rui jing:
Is the missing bus for sv14 3177E? It has been doing this bus more often than not. 3204K has been also seen frequently on it.
no la.. its a computation error.. looks ok now.. 26 - 29 buses. its 26 perm buses, 29 with the 3 14e buses.
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Originally posted by service_238:
Sv 15 had 2 revisions in 2012 - 16 Jan was to adjust run time, 23 Jul was to add a morning downroute from Eunos to Marine Parade at 0609h. Both revisions saw a slight change in how the overnight parking blocks were assigned. but of course full fleet size of Sv 15 requires on the ground checking for the missing bus cos on paper, its 15 buses.
I think the missing one is probably one of the BN spare citaros. that duty does the morning downroute from Tampines Ave 9 to Tampines Int. needs verification. I didnt list Sv 28 as one of the services with fleet size issues as I believe the fleet size didnt change throughout the year.
So for Sv 15, on paper it's 15 buses as of now, but in reality might be more? Think I'll have to check it again sometime soon when I'm free during peak hours.
Sv 28's fleet size problem existed like before 2012 I think, before 1926Z left 28 for SP then 69. -
Originally posted by Rui jing:
SBS1942B hasnt been on sv15 for a while unlike its other mark Ivs. 8189M havent seen a while too after it permed.
Is the extra bus for sv33 2600G? It has been running around, last saw it on feeder 229.
Just saw 1942B & 8189M on Sv 15 yesterday though...and as far as I'm concerned, the Mk4s on Sv 15 are still safe as of now~
8189M comes down from PIE at around 0715hrs+ during AM Peak to turn into PSR Int to start the first trip thereafter usually from PSR Int.I'm thinking the extra bus out from 33 might be that 2600 or 2629A. 2629A did almost all the PSR services since Oct..didn't spot it lately though cause I was overseas~
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How about svc 36. There was a service improvement on this one, but through sgwiki the number of buses on svc 36 has never increased from 16.
Also svc 291 shows 1 missing WAB DD.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
How about svc 36. There was a service improvement on this one, but through sgwiki the number of buses on svc 36 has never increased from 16.
run time adjustment resulting in more trips added.
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Originally posted by service_238:
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Sv 154 has 32 buses. Fleet add in Nov due to 154A.
cant find the addition bus.. 154A only got one bus? So far, I only see SBS 8486E doing it.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
cant find the addition bus.. 154A only got one bus? So far, I only see SBS 8486E doing it.
earlier 154A trips probably done by the 157 buses, and those that start late from Boon Lay. the 7+ trips are done by 1 bus. maybe a swap of duties occurred means the fleet add bus probably went to replace 8486's old slot.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
cant find the addition bus.. 154A only got one bus? So far, I only see SBS 8486E doing it.
could it be 9393H which seems to be consistently on 154? -
966 I dun really think it got 20 duties on weekdays.Often I only spot 17 buses the most during peaks..
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Possible fleet ads for services 72, 88, 159? Maybe SWT 50A soon? Saw ALL services plying Ang Mo Kio ITE filled to the brim (50,72/72B,88/88A/88B,159/159A/159B). I also saw 2 buses doing 88B yesterday morning.
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
Possible fleet ads for services 72, 88, 159? Maybe SWT 50A soon? Saw ALL services plying Ang Mo Kio ITE filled to the brim (50,72/72B,88/88A/88B,159/159A/159B). I also saw 2 buses doing 88B yesterday morning.
maybe they shld introduce 50A