The Bendy Bus Fan Club (Part I)
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
True worst part for 851 when previously got 4 crossover bendies to 856 during AM peak.Already struggling with loads yet the deployment side anyhow whack put 4 851 bendies from WDL to YIS.969 due to complains from public and they are being pressurise so Bo pian put extra bendies.Put extra bendies on 806 at the expense on some trunk svc with high loading,61 from BBT to NP during Am peak CMI,Last time there used to have 2-4 bendies run this block but now,Cheeterok and Osi struggle like mad..154A with DDs ardy struggle like shit yet 61 WAB SDs??
i tink u shld really go and view these videos a few more times
Originally posted by TIB1218R:Bendies at Yishun, Morning Peak Hours..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2ObVBSyYI
Another Video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bkh5f5Uhwoesp the first one, two full to the door 806s arrive within a min apart.
u telling me its a mistake to put bendies on 806??
or that smrt made a huge mistake increasing the peak freq of 806 from 5 min to 2 min, fleet add 5 times in the past yr? introducing 2 more crossovers during peak of peak?
its all a waste of resources??
dude..even 969 at 3 min headway along sbw rd stretch also cannot win 806 high loading.
really, pls do some research bef u speak.. if ppl cannot even get on their feeder bus to bring them to the interchange,how u expect them to then get on their trunk connection or the mrt?
importance of feeder > trunk
thats why ptc got new ruling for feeder qos
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
U also insult other people so STFU!!
Think that applies to you better,Getting irritate by your everyday Ci terok buses everyday.Got clones Somemore with many character ah?Some joker some serious some super serious and some super dumbnut.Reflect urself in your bathroom mirror leh dun spread nonsense here
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
If there's less cars on the roads, there's no need widen roads and build more expressways and roads..
You still fail to understand the balance. Public transport cannot solve all the problem, it can only offset partially the problems of traffic jams in long run. Lesser cars means they have to roll out more bus services and so more buses on the roads. It also makes no sense to use bendy buses in this case with much more buses on the roads, which cause more long queues and unwanted bottlenecks and bus jams caused by longer buses. All the more they want to use normal single decker buses and double deckers and standardise to the same length for flexibility and higher efficiencies for a more crowded bus lanes and bus intertchanges. More buses means bus companies even need more spaces to park more buses and they will not want to park longer bendy buses to waste the space meant for more normal buses which can contribute to better frequencies and more services.I guess kids like you people still fail the need of using cars for many groups of people. Some need for work purposes (like delivery and sales), some have big families with many children and elderly. And when you reach to a point of growing up and being in a working life (which is so demanding and stressful), you need something to motivate and reward yourself and also give your family and friends a better life. That's where a car and a house comes in. You will come to a point of life that you can't always rely on buses and trains everyday because there is nothing much to motivate you to move on in life and in work. I know cars have their problems like traffic jams and thus it is better to take bus to work and use your own transport for other purposes. And I certainly do support the use of green cars.
You want bendy buses then I guess the only way is to cut down the number of bus services in Singapore, and also drastically reduce the population of Singapore back to 3 million which translates to lower density living in Singapore. But do you think your govt is sensable enough to do this, even in future?
Originally posted by negotiable:fren, ur just gonna get bombarded with replies on how fast u wan? speed vs safety which one more impt?
then some random no link example of how a bendy was spotted "swerving" in and out of traffic
or how fast smrt buses go just because they have "screwed up scheduling" which isnt even proven to be true across all svc
so, why bother sir? ur just gonna get shot down in this highly biased place, where some highly egoistic bastard gets to have the final say here based on his unhappiness twd a certain pto..
forget abt even seeing balanced arguments, cos they will say that ur term of efficiency is too dangerous in context of singapore road driving
Don't know how to negotiate, resort to calling names.So clever
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Everyone off topic here smart ass and there's no need to call people bastard if you're professional and educated.Im sure u have moral and learn civil right?You like ppl call u bastard?
i get it now haha
u unhappy that i calling names is it?
Originally posted by carbikebus:I only suggest you idiot no need to laugh you're just a cabbage in bus world you piece of shit
i didn have to look very far to find this, i can assure u there are more further down
so u can call ppl idiot or piece of shit
i cant call other ppl bastard?
still calling names, rite?
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Originally posted by vicamour:
You still fail to understand the balance. Public transport cannot solve all the problem, it can only offset partially the problems of traffic jams in long run. Lesser cars means they have to roll out more bus services and so more buses on the roads. It also makes no sense to use bendy buses in this case with much more buses on the roads, which cause more long queues and unwanted bottlenecks and bus jams caused by longer buses. All the more they want to use normal single decker buses and double deckers and standardise to the same length for flexibility and higher efficiencies for a more crowded bus lanes and bus intertchanges. More buses means bus companies even need more spaces to park more buses and they will not want to park longer bendy buses to waste the space meant for more normal buses which can contribute to better frequencies and more services.I guess kids like you people still fail the need of using cars for many groups of people. Some need for work purposes (like delivery and sales), some have big families with many children and elderly. And when you reach to a point of growing up and being in a working life (which is so demanding and stressful), you need something to motivate and reward yourself and also give your family and friends a better life. That's where a car and a house comes in. You will come to a point of life that you can't always rely on buses and trains everyday because there is nothing much to motivate you to move on in life and in work. I know cars have their problems like traffic jams and thus it is better to take bus to work and use your own transport for other purposes. And I certainly do support the use of green cars.
You want bendy buses then I guess the only way is to cut down the number of bus services in Singapore, and also drastically reduce the population of Singapore back to 3 million which translates to lower density living in Singapore. But do you think your govt is sensable enough to do this, even in future?
Some people still can live without car. Bike is the best
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Originally posted by negotiable:
i tink u shld really go and view these videos a few more times
esp the first one, two full to the door 806s arrive within a min apart.
u telling me its a mistake to put bendies on 806??
or that smrt made a huge mistake increasing the peak freq of 806 from 5 min to 2 min, fleet add 5 times in the past yr? introducing 2 more crossovers during peak of peak?
its all a waste of resources??
dude..even 969 at 3 min headway along sbw rd stretch also cannot win 806 high loading.
really, pls do some research bef u speak.. if ppl cannot even get on their feeder bus to bring them to the interchange,how u expect them to then get on their trunk connection or the mrt?
importance of feeder > trunk
thats why ptc got new ruling for feeder qos
Why I must see the videos when I ever did standby duties driving all Yishun service except 856?Did I say they made a huge mistake put bendies on 806?Standard mah short feeder routes use bendies but for how many trips?10 buses which is 4AM/PM 6 Splits?After years of public complains and pressure by LTA then start right?So 2 bendies kope from 61 & 851??How about other Yishun svc improvement can you name me a few??If we're in bus business we talk about whole bus system and that's include trunk,Industrial and not just feeders only.
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So you're one of the clones right SMB228X,No need to pretend.Your hole getting bigger by ur post eh
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Why I must see the videos when I ever did standby duties driving all Yishun service except 856?Did I say they made a huge mistake put bendies on 806?Standard mah short feeder routes use bendies but for how many trips?10 buses which is 4AM/PM 6 Splits?After years of public complains and pressure by LTA then start right?So 2 bendies kope from 61 & 851??How about other Yishun svc improvement can you name me a few??If we're in bus business we talk about whole bus system and that's include trunk,Industrial and not just feeders only.
cos u used the word "expense"
"Put extra bendies on 806 at the expense on some trunk svc with high loading"
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)n.1.a. Something spent to attain a goal or accomplish a purpose: an expense of time and energy on the project.b. A loss for the sake of something gained; a sacrifice: achieved speed at the expense of accuracy.in any case, where else u wan to pluck a bendy from? 169? with so enormous crowd going to senoko in the morning?
or 67? little india crowd too small?
969? not enough ppl going tampines?
or 854?
if they must have to get a bendy from somewhere, isnt it obvious they have to get it from some place where the loading is not as high as the above mentioned svcs.
oh and, of course i know u did work as an smrt standby sl before
but that was way long long ago
when 806 still wasnt that prosperous
u shld have seen its change in loading... increase by 200% within 18 mths
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Why I must see the videos when I ever did standby duties driving all Yishun service except 856?Did I say they made a huge mistake put bendies on 806?Standard mah short feeder routes use bendies but for how many trips?10 buses which is 4AM/PM 6 Splits?After years of public complains and pressure by LTA then start right?So 2 bendies kope from 61 & 851??How about other Yishun svc improvement can you name me a few??If we're in bus business we talk about whole bus system and that's include trunk,Industrial and not just feeders only.
U admit SMRT have no enough bendy so should get Citaro G!!! And u see the video unloading fast and no problem so dun give me bus stop delay bullshit!!!
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
Some people still can live without car. Bike is the best
Bike is dangerous. I have friends seriously injured or passed away just because of bike accidents.Originally posted by cheezing:
Speedometer doesn’t mean anything isn’t it? So what if SBST buses can travel at up to 90km/h? They will never go at that speed because of safety and their schedules. I agree that SMRT got to improve on their frequency for such services. SBST should adjust some of their bus schedule timings. But why should a bus with better frequency be slower?To prevent brunching with the bus infront, else people can just complain why always 2 buses come at the same time. Then how about the people at the bus stops behind the journey, they have to wait longer times for the next bus because the earlier bus travelled faster and left the bus stop at an ealier timing.
And SBST is using the IRIS system to adhere to the timings of the buses arriving at the bus stops as they promised to the public. Late how? Too early and misaligned the overall schedule how? There is no perfect way but at least their buses are more punctual and predictable before IRIS era.
Originally posted by negotiable:i tink u shld really go and view these videos a few more times
But you never took account of how much time is spend on the bendy bus driving in the bus bay/lane before it can let these people alight and how much time is spend again to reach another stop just to get out of the queues of bendy buses had caused?
In that case of your videos, you can suggest SBST to put a 3rd door behind its doublde decker buses. Can achieve the same purpose and yet takes up half the space.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Bike is dangerous. I have friends seriously injured or passed away just because of bike accidents.To prevent brunching with the bus infront, else people can just complain why always 2 buses come at the same time. Then how about the people at the bus stops behind the journey, they have to wait longer times for the next bus because the earlier bus travelled faster and left the bus stop at an ealier timing.
And SBST is using the IRIS system to adhere to the timings of the buses arriving at the bus stops as they promised to the public. Late how? Too early and misaligned the overall schedule how? There is no perfect way but at least their buses are more punctual and predictable before IRIS era.
Then u want more SD bus plus increase frequency then complain bunching!! U so funny!!!
U must like sit DD at 10kmh for 45 minute due to timing see if u can take it!!!
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Originally posted by vicamour:
You want the proof, go look for the proof when hints are given to you. Don't expect people to lay out everything for you just for your sake of convenience. Some things are also not meant to post here. Don't try to act smart to get people spoonfeed you here.
Again want to hear the good things here only, not happy about the things that are really happening, then leave the discussion. You don't own the forum.
You call all these hints? These are all jokes, Come back to me when you can find something valid to begin with. I don't think I'm smart but atleast I don't wreck other peoples party like you.
And this is the club of the TS, All he wants is just wanting to find like minded people who like the things he likes, All because of party-wreckers like you. The one I feel sorry for ain't you but the TS.
To sum it up, You are sad. Really sad.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
But you never took account of how much time is spend on the bendy bus driving in the bus bay/lane before it can let these people alight and how much time is spend again to reach another stop just to get out of the queues of bendy buses had caused?
In that case of your videos, you can suggest SBST to put a 3rd door behind its doublde decker buses. Can achieve the same purpose and yet takes up half the space.
the pavement at blk 923 bus stop allows up to 2 bendies and 1 rigid to do loading unloading movements at any one time..unless u tell me that u always see 4 buses coming at a go, the unloading movements at that particular bus stop have always been smooth going
esp during peak hr.. 800/811/812 bendies just need to filter into the left lane after that bus stop to turn in, 804/806 ones just go straight.. nothing difficult abt getting out of the queues bendy buses cause because there isnt even a queue
same goes for northpoint shopping ctr one...only grudge is that those taxis and private buses waiting for their pax forever clog up the road..a road hazard to everyone else also
in fact, like most other ppl, it is frustrating when ur bus turns into the interchange and u see a whole line of buses clog up. but its not due to bendy unloading i can assure u
most bendies that enter are from feeder routes that enter with a meagre number of pax for most of them would have alighted outside, unloading activities take at most 15 second and then they go
but it is some irresponsible drivers that want to tap their card to go off svc, slowing dragging their feet to the counter bef tapping, sometimes even waiting for the minute to change bef they tap
thats why there is a jam
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
You call all these hints? These are all jokes, Come back to me when you can find something valid to begin with. I don't think I'm smart but atleast I don't wreck other peoples party like you.
And this is the club of the TS, All he wants is just wanting to find like minded people who like the things he likes, All because of party-wreckers like you. The one I feel sorry for ain't you but the TS.
To sum it up, You are sad. Really sad.
You can't accept the fact so you called them jokes. Can't handle the facts then you don't have to contribute.
Club of TS? He own the forum? That's why with people like you, having such kind of seperatist like of thinking which had torn the group apart. You want to see thibngs your way and refuse to accept the facts. Someone had already posted a genuine evidence from the COI report. It is already a big hint.
Years back, I have also highlighted many of SMRT's problems and yet people like you seems can't understand and fail to accept. Until the real series of problems come in and create so much hoo-has in the medias, then you people can see the picture.
People like you who keep denying facts and protray these false images to others based on what you like is simply pathetic.
The sad person, sadly is you instead.
Originally posted by negotiable:the pavement at blk 923 bus stop allows up to 2 bendies and 1 rigid to do loading unloading movements at any one time..unless u tell me that u always see 4 buses coming at a go, the unloading movements at that particular bus stop have always been smooth going
esp during peak hr.. 800/811/812 bendies just need to filter into the left lane after that bus stop to turn in, 804/806 ones just go straight.. nothing difficult abt getting out of the queues bendy buses cause because there isnt even a queue
same goes for northpoint shopping ctr one...only grudge is that those taxis and private buses waiting for their pax forever clog up the road..a road hazard to everyone else also
in fact, like most other ppl, it is frustrating when ur bus turns into the interchange and u see a whole line of buses clog up. but its not due to bendy unloading i can assure u
most bendies that enter are from feeder routes that enter with a meagre number of pax for most of them would have alighted outside, unloading activities take at most 15 second and then they go
but it is some irresponsible drivers that want to tap their card to go off svc, slowing dragging their feet to the counter bef tapping, sometimes even waiting for the minute to change bef they tap
thats why there is a jam
That is when the bus stop is big, how about small bus stops? 2 bendy bus and 1 single decker can save more space for 5 single deckers at least.
Without bendy buses, these buses can cater more single deckers in the bus stop and allow more bus services to stop at the same time to allow commuters to board and alight at the same time. LTA can even save the space for other purposes if there are no bendy buses. Singapore land is limited, not like big countries.
You only talk about the bus stop outside. How about the queues they formed inside the bus interchanges and the chaos they made for parking woes in depots? And no private vehicles involved.
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Wah become teacher Some more huhuhu *Eating chestnut* I see a person with more than 8 username reply so scare sial!So SMRT fan boy do you admit SMRT bus standard still lacking compared SBST?Dun tell me it's too early to buy WAB bendies although LTA rules that new bus should be WAB and low floor.By right MK 1 should retire Liao but chose to refurbish instead.By right they should have at least trial a WAB bendy if they're keen on bendies.SBST also got deregistered their buses before lifespan expired but replace with either WAB DDs and SDs.Ok now we dont talk about bendies vs DDs but can someone can tell me the reason why they dun want to buy WAB bendies?$$$ problem or barred from buying WAB bendies?In coming months if SMRT buy bendies then I STFU and ardy promise to treat Sir SMB228 makan if they still buy SDs then how?Ardy they extend and refurbish O405s leh then still need more SDs ah?SBST ardy announce they be getting 450 more Citeroks and 550 B9 Wrights when is SMRT turn to buy at least 200 SDs 200 bendies ah?Alamak forget Lah Amdep/Kjdep already like sardine in a tin must do ONP again is it?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Wah become teacher Some more huhuhu *Eating chestnut* I see a person with more than 8 username reply so scare sial!So SMRT fan boy do you admit SMRT bus standard still lacking compared SBST?Dun tell me it's too early to buy WAB bendies although LTA rules that new bus should be WAB and low floor.By right MK 1 should retire Liao but chose to refurbish instead.By right they should have at least trial a WAB bendy if they're keen on bendies.SBST also got deregistered their buses before lifespan expired but replace with either WAB DDs and SDs.Ok now we dont talk about bendies vs DDs but can someone can tell me the reason why they dun want to buy WAB bendies?$$$ problem or barred from buying WAB bendies?In coming months if SMRT buy bendies then I STFU and ardy promise to treat Sir SMB228 makan if they still buy SDs then how?Ardy they extend and refurbish O405s leh then still need more SDs ah?SBST ardy announce they be getting 450 more Citeroks and 550 B9 Wrights when is SMRT turn to buy at least 200 SDs 200 bendies ah?Alamak forget Lah Amdep/Kjdep already like sardine in a tin must do ONP again is it?
its funny u think im a clone of 228x
really? just because i sound like im shooting u, i must be a clone?
nice logic by the way
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Nvm no need to show them evidence scared my new boss kpkb I disclose confidential issue here.I too engrossed with bendies especially the newer type but what to do our road space is getting congested and spaces where u roam freely last time is being shared with other foreigners and new citizens.Just accept the facts.The mindset of SMRT peoples need to be change completely for the sake of passengers.How long can they depend on the DAFs,CRLs,Habits,MK1/2,Volgrens bendies?its 2012 and their fleets is not even 40% WABs let alone new bendies
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Originally posted by vicamour:
That is when the bus stop is big, how about small bus stops? 2 bendy bus and 1 single decker can save more space for 5 single deckers at least.
Without bendy buses, these buses can cater more single deckers in the bus stop and allow more bus services to stop at the same time to allow commuters to board and alight at the same time. LTA can even save the space for other purposes if there are no bendy buses. Singapore land is limited, not like big countries.
You only talk about the bus stop outside. How about the queues they formed inside the bus interchanges and the chaos they made for parking woes in depots? And no private vehicles involved.
eh
im talking specifically abt this bus stop..cos after all we were talking abt the large qty of bendies on 806?
the SD come from 169/965/969/858... they all usually come with packed buses and take almost the same time to unload... 3 doors vs 2 doors, abt same loading %.
and i've never seen a jam made of bendies formed for parking...all these years things have been going smoothly in general
i wun comment on how they park inside depot..theres a reason why onp was introduced so that these long monsters dont park inside depot overnight and cause a massive jam when they are being despatched in the mornings
what my point is, that trunk svcs shld use double deckers instead of bendies. im all with double deck serving trunk routes, but feeder shld continue using bendies, esp short routes with high loading at the ending stops, no one would want to go on the upper deck and waste 1-2min waiting for lower deck ppl to alight bef they alight. 1-2min makes a lot of diff when ur trying to rush for work in the morning
besides, certain smrt feeder or intratown routes arent passable to double deck cos of their wider turning radius into the small and narrow roads which bendies can negotiate
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SMRT should really step down from bus business. Lol. Look at the amount of flame here. Majority covering backside for SMRT. Esp 228X, living in his own world full of citeroks and citerok Gs. Saddist. Haha.
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But seriously one fine day LTA banned bendies then how bout ur 806?Dun tell me about where's is the evidence thing k,Now I ask you how ah 800,804,811 etc?811,812 IMHO can use a mix of SD and DD but 806 leh sure ppl Bo pian.I tell you at first I attend meeting also heart pain hear this but life has to go on leh
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225 also short route nia but got DD ppl bo pian still go upstairs especially young ones.Have to get used to it.At first I think it's sound silly but hey once you go upstairs ardy stuck nearly 8 mins including traffic before reaching 1st bus stop.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
But seriously one fine day LTA banned bendies then how bout ur 806?Dun tell me about where's is the evidence thing k,Now I ask you how ah 800,804,811 etc?811,812 IMHO can use a mix of SD and DD but 806 leh sure ppl Bo pian.I tell you at first I attend meeting also heart pain hear this but life has to go on leh
dun worry 806 is 95% passable to double deck, at the most just convert
of course, passenger suffer when they are stuck at the upper deck, but what to do
or, if smrt is forced to operate a fully 12m single deck fleet, its not very hard to calculate anyway
2 single deck per bendy, u get 1 min freq
but fuel costs x2
operating costs x2
translates into higher fares
then passenger still suffers...
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Originally posted by negotiable:
eh
im talking specifically abt this bus stop..cos after all we were talking abt the large qty of bendies on 806?
the SD come from 169/965/969/858... they all usually come with packed buses and take almost the same time to unload... 3 doors vs 2 doors, abt same loading %.
and i've never seen a jam made of bendies formed for parking...all these years things have been going smoothly in general
i wun comment on how they park inside depot..theres a reason why onp was introduced so that these long monsters dont park inside depot overnight and cause a massive jam when they are being despatched in the mornings
what my point is, that trunk svcs shld use double deckers instead of bendies. im all with double deck serving trunk routes, but feeder shld continue using bendies, esp short routes with high loading at the ending stops, no one would want to go on the upper deck and waste 1-2min waiting for lower deck ppl to alight bef they alight. 1-2min makes a lot of diff when ur trying to rush for work in the morning
besides, certain smrt feeder or intratown routes arent passable to double deck cos of their wider turning radius into the small and narrow roads which bendies can negotiate
Your last paragraph makes no sense. Bendy buses are 18 meters long while a double decker is only 12 metres long. If bendy buses can drive at these turns, then it's no problem for normal buses as well. But fact is bendy takes up to much road space and they need more space to move out just to negotiate a sharp turn.
Someone here have mentioned about the problems caused by bendy buses along Yishun Northpoint in the earlier pages. I myself have several encounters during peak hours as well. The queue of buses can go all the way up to Yishun 10, including bendy buses. Imagine if there are no bendy buses, the queues will be shorter, less bottleneck to other buses and vehicles. And these propblems are mainly caused by bendy buses at most extents.
In future with better frequencies, there is no need for bendy buses in future. Feeder services can achieve the same purpose. There is a possibility of extending an existing trunk service or introducing a new feeder service to Yishun East in future. 806 problem is only temporary.
Originally posted by negotiable:dun worry 806 is 95% passable to double deck, at the most just convert
of course, passenger suffer when they are stuck at the upper deck, but what to do
or, if smrt is forced to operate a fully 12m single deck fleet, its not very hard to calculate anyway
2 single deck per bendy, u get 1 min freq
but fuel costs x2
operating costs x2
translates into higher fares
then passenger still suffers...
Don't be naive. No matter what kind of buses they use, they will still find tons of excuse to increase the fares.Especially SMRT
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Originally posted by vicamour:
You can't accept the fact so you called them jokes. Can't handle the facts then you don't have to contribute.
Club of TS? He own the forum? That's why with people like you, having such kind of seperatist like of thinking which had torn the group apart. You want to see thibngs your way and refuse to accept the facts. Someone had already posted a genuine evidence from the COI report. It is already a big hint.
Years back, I have also highlighted many of SMRT's problems and yet people like you seems can't understand and fail to accept. Until the real series of problems come in and create so much hoo-has in the medias, then you people can see the picture.
People like you who keep denying facts and protray these false images to others based on what you like is simply pathetic.
The sad person, sadly is you instead.
Who can accept we can see for ourselves. We aren't blind and there is a line to draw between 'common issues of society' and unacceptable standards. From what I see this is the 'common issues of society' which you failed to accept.
This is the bus forum, It's for the public. He made up his own club wanting to find like-minded people which child-like passion for bendies, not for pathetic illiterates like you crashing and whacking other people who likes to share the same stuff as him. It is people like you who bring this thread and society down. COI? What a joke really, Sadly some people likes to 'use small facts' and just assume bendies are out, which isn't the case here. You want to win the case as prosecutor, You need prove why beyond reasonable doubt that this person should be punished, All I see here are just people making 'small facts' and ask for it to be banned, Which sadly doesn't apply here in SG.
Sadly there is no perfect stuff in our society here. Mistakes and accidents do happen. It is not in our control whether or not we want it to happen. If you want to nit-pick on stuffs like litter,lane hogging or nonsense like why is svc xxx's frequency so long and stuff, That's beyond their control. They can only try their best to reduce and add depending on the demand. The SMRT trains saga caused a huge uproar, But most of us has already moved on. It is you who keeps nit-picking on such issues, and can't move on.
Uh-uh, You are wrong. I can accept facts and live with it but I can't stand wreckers like you wanting to wreck other peoples club. If you share his passion, join. If you don't, Scram. The person I feel for is the TS because all his efforts to promote like minded people to join his club has been nullified.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Your last paragraph makes no sense. Bendy buses are 18 meters long while a double decker is only 12 metres long. If bendy buses can drive at these turns, then it's no problem for normal buses as well. But fact is bendy takes up to much road space and they need more space to move out just to negotiate a sharp turn.
Someone here have mentioned about the problems caused by bendy buses along Yishun Northpoint in the earlier pages. I myself have several encounters during peak hours as well. The queue of buses can go all the way up to Yishun 10, including bendy buses. Imagine if there are no bendy buses, the queues will be shorter, less bottleneck to other buses and vehicles. And these propblems are mainly caused by bendy buses at most extents.
In future with better frequencies, there is no need for bendy buses in future. Feeder services can achieve the same purpose. There is a possibility of extending an existing trunk service or introducing a new feeder service to Yishun East in future. 806 problem is only temporary.
but a bendy bus has an articulator...
it is already proven that 60 foot long bus (18m with articulator) has a smaller turning radius than a 40 foot straight bus (12m long)
its not very hard to find the source on the web...