The Bendy Bus Fan Club (Part I)
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
BENDIES ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF TRAFFIC JAMS! GOOD THAT SMRT WON'T BE BUYING NEW BENDIES AS THEY ALWAYS TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE ON THE ROADS AND BUS STOPS!
Traffic jams won't occur if Singaporeans dun use cars, even though it's impractical for so.
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Eh newer buses warranty haven expired got no restriction even though modern buses depend on ECU.Not like O405s or B10Ms etc where can tampered.True enough these ppl got no freaking idea why SMRT SL love to speed,Their timetable is screwed up by the group supervisor.Running time so Damm tight ones cause not enough buses to play around,Why not enough buses cause buses all used up for ad hocs chartered,Ikea shuttles,RWS,Garden by the bay la,That's why u see Most deployment one bus can serve 2-3 svc..Fark up sial
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Originally posted by vicamour:
It is not about fast or slow. It is more of the scheduling and timing of the buses. If bus is too ahead of its timing, it will be slow. If bus is late, they will speed.I have taken 168 double deckers along TPE at 65km/h before and there are times double deckers along Orchard Road overtake the bendy bus. And sometimes it is even more frustrsting that a bendy bus being stuck in a junction and bus stop.
Okay since its like what you say scheduling of the buses then I would say that some of the SBS bus services scheduling is not very good, cause most of the time this screwed up scheduling causes their bus services to crawl so slowly on the road. Or is it because they are fully aware that their buses (like DDs and KuBs) do not have the capacity to travel on the road at a greater speed? If this is the reason then it have to do with the fact that the buses that they use do not have the capacity to travel quickly isn't it? Hence greater time allowance are given to them to travel from one place to another. I am speaking from a passenger's point of view and what does a passenger expect when he/she travels from one place to another? Efficiency. Whatever the reason, in my opinion and from my experience, most SBST buses travel slower than SMRT buses, and to me, that is a problem. I expect efficiency from our own public transport. -
Myself, TIB1218R on 812
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Eh newer buses warranty haven expired got no restriction even though modern buses depend on ECU.Not like O405s or B10Ms etc where can tampered.True enough these ppl got no freaking idea why SMRT SL love to speed,Their timetable is screwed up by the group supervisor.Running time so Damm tight ones cause not enough buses to play around,Why not enough buses cause buses all used up for ad hocs chartered,Ikea shuttles,RWS,Garden by the bay la,That's why u see Most deployment one bus can serve 2-3 svc..Fark up sial
Well to me its a good thing since I am able to get to my destination faster -
I WANT TRANS ISLAND BACK!
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Still want hints too bad it's confidential..No need to publish here.Dun ask who I'm working for.Truth is chances to see WAB bendies is 20% the most.Alrdy Citaro G got disapproval from LTA,Then for the past 3 years all look look see see nvr even trial 1 single bendy.SBST?1st B9TL CDGE then wrights then K310 and I thought SMRT nvr sit down quietly when SBST buy something new?You see the whole pic,Tell u no need fortune teller la these kind of things no need for big announcement.SG land is very limited,Buy 200-300 of bendies then need bigger depots.BI also need big space.Current design ardy cramped sial and u think new Yis/Bpj int so big ah?
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Originally posted by cheezing:
Okay since its like what you say scheduling of the buses then I would say that some of the SBS bus services scheduling is not very good, cause most of the time this screwed up scheduling causes their bus services to crawl so slowly on the road. Or is it because they are fully aware that their buses (like DDs and KuBs) do not have the capacity to travel on the road at a greater speed? If this is the reason then it have to do with the fact that the buses that they use do not have the capacity to travel quickly isn't it? Hence greater time allowance are given to them to travel from one place to another. I am speaking from a passenger's point of view and what does a passenger expect when he/she travels from one place to another? Efficiency. Whatever the reason, in my opinion and from my experience, most SBST buses travel slower than SMRT buses, and to me, that is a problem. I expect efficiency from our own public transport.fren, ur just gonna get bombarded with replies on how fast u wan? speed vs safety which one more impt?
then some random no link example of how a bendy was spotted "swerving" in and out of traffic
or how fast smrt buses go just because they have "screwed up scheduling" which isnt even proven to be true across all svc
so, why bother sir? ur just gonna get shot down in this highly biased place, where some highly egoistic bastard gets to have the final say here based on his unhappiness twd a certain pto..
forget abt even seeing balanced arguments, cos they will say that ur term of efficiency is too dangerous in context of singapore road driving
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Ya u think all ppl think like u?Last time I whack 1 Lance on 969 till 70 ardy aunties hint "Wah xiao di Mai kin leh,Wa Mai si anni kwan"
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Originally posted by cheezing:
Okay since its like what you say scheduling of the buses then I would say that some of the SBS bus services scheduling is not very good, cause most of the time this screwed up scheduling causes their bus services to crawl so slowly on the road. Or is it because they are fully aware that their buses (like DDs and KuBs) do not have the capacity to travel on the road at a greater speed? If this is the reason then it have to do with the fact that the buses that they use do not have the capacity to travel quickly isn't it? Hence greater time allowance are given to them to travel from one place to another. I am speaking from a passenger's point of view and what does a passenger expect when he/she travels from one place to another? Efficiency. Whatever the reason, in my opinion and from my experience, most SBST buses travel slower than SMRT buses, and to me, that is a problem. I expect efficiency from our own public transport.Agree
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Its about finding the balance of efficiency and driving safely. My term of efficiency? Just drive near the speed limit. People would have no case of argument for that since its the law given by the LTA. Of course I don't mean you speed a bus till elderly people on the bus fall when you suddenly step on the brakes or swerve in and out of lanes. It is about not driving at an unreasonably slow speed.
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So negotiable you like the condition of smrt buses now?Tsk3 calling ppl names Somemore.I used to like smrtb more than Sbst previously and gave them chances to see any improvement is made for them to be on par with Sbst but what happen?They go backwards just like SBS in the mid 80s,Hooligan drivers,Wrecked bus not to mention cmi gearbox,Retard speeding with jerking brakes etc.Buses like never wash for months,Overworked buses.You got any idea how long bendies take for engine overhaul and how expensive is the axles cost?I bet you did nt cause I see first hand how the buses are maintain!
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Back to the topic about bendies, I will fully understand if LTA makes the decision to ban bendies in Singapore for good. I will just feel sad cause they were once part and parcel of Singapore's transport, or at least my own transport, since I have been living in a SMRT dominated area. I grew up sitting bendies and how they work still amazes me till today
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Originally posted by cheezing:
Okay since its like what you say scheduling of the buses then I would say that some of the SBS bus services scheduling is not very good, cause most of the time this screwed up scheduling causes their bus services to crawl so slowly on the road. Or is it because they are fully aware that their buses (like DDs and KuBs) do not have the capacity to travel on the road at a greater speed? If this is the reason then it have to do with the fact that the buses that they use do not have the capacity to travel quickly isn't it? Hence greater time allowance are given to them to travel from one place to another. I am speaking from a passenger's point of view and what does a passenger expect when he/she travels from one place to another? Efficiency. Whatever the reason, in my opinion and from my experience, most SBST buses travel slower than SMRT buses, and to me, that is a problem. I expect efficiency from our own public transport.At least most of the scheduling of SBST services are good, as compared to most of SMRT buses which are worse. A big company can handle so many bus services well, while a small company can't even handle a small pool of bus services well. It show how much the culture of the company is.
Go look at the speedometers of SBST buses before you comment. They can reach up to speeds of 90km/h. It is just that LTA wants to install speed limiters to limit the speed of buses, firstly is about safety. If you know the history of Singapore buses, SBS had a continous spite of accidents in the 1990s. Accidents became higher and thus LTA and SBS have to install speed limiters for safety concerns of bus services to commuters. Everyone wants to have a faster bus trip but I will not compromise fast for safety reasons. Better late than never.
Having greater allowance of time is because of the number of buses available and the readiness to prepare for situations like traffic jams, busy roads and very high frequencies. 72 is slow at certain parts of the route because it has good frequencies to cater the crowds for Tampines residents within Tampines. 72 has many buses, and thus they have to run at frequent trips in order to ensure all BCs have a fair share of trips daily and also not to the extend of screwing up the frequencies. But I agree that SBST should do something about the Tampines Rd part, which they should consider it as a semi-express road instead so that run time for the road can be shorten by at least 5 mins.
If you want to talk about efficiency about SMRT, they are hardly efficient. Poor and eccentric frequencies, long waiting times, overcrowding to the state that commuters can't even board the bus many times, e.g. 190, 960, 980. They can be fast but some services are actually slower now due to better frequencies, e,g 851. Despite so many years, they still fail to improve their bus services. Efficient, hardly.
However for SBST, they can be slower generally, but some services are actaully faster than years back.
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Originally posted by SBS8501U:
Traffic jams won't occur if Singaporeans dun use cars, even though it's impractical for so.
So childish reasons,Then u think govt want to stop ppl from driving where part of their high revenues come from COE,Road taxs,Summons etc?You expect those rich ppl like Miss Saw take buses or over crowd train to work ah?Funny leh u even bus CEO use car big Merc Somemore.You think all ppl suka2 buy cars/bikes for no reasons ah??Ah next better player pls
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
So negotiable you like the condition of smrt buses now?Tsk3 calling ppl names Somemore.I used to like smrtb more than Sbst previously and gave them chances to see any improvement is made for them to be on par with Sbst but what happen?They go backwards just like SBS in the mid 80s,Hooligan drivers,Wrecked bus not to mention cmi gearbox,Retard speeding with jerking brakes etc.Buses like never wash for months,Overworked buses.You got any idea how long bendies take for engine overhaul and how expensive is the axles cost?I bet you did nt cause I see first hand how the buses are maintain!
see what i mean? going off topic again
we're toking abt speed at which buses travel, u ask me if i like the condition of smrt buses
really really cute sial.
trust me, i live in a majority smrt area, i know how their cleaniness is like, u dun have to doubt me.
oh and i dun see first hand how much the cost is like for overhaul or fixing of bus?
did u know that the damage caused to 1105h after the fire was initially estimated at 80k sgd?
ur not the only one here who knows whats going on...
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If there's less cars on the roads, there's no need widen roads and build more expressways and roads..
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Originally posted by vicamour:
At least most of the scheduling of SBST services are good, as compared to most of SMRT buses which are worse. A big company can handle so many bus services well, while a small company can't even handle a small pool of bus services well. It show how much the culture of the company is.
Go look at the speedometers of SBST buses before you comment. They can reach up to speeds of 90km/h. It is just that LTA wants to install speed limiters to limit the speed of buses, firstly is about safety. If you know the history of Singapore buses, SBS had a continous spite of accidents in the 1990s. Accidents became higher and thus LTA and SBS have to install speed limiters for safety concerns of bus services to commuters. Everyone wants to have a faster bus trip but I will not compromise fast for safety reasons. Better late than never.
Having greater allowance of time is because of the number of buses available and the readiness to prepare for situations like traffic jams, busy roads and very high frequencies. 72 is slow at certain parts of the route because it has good frequencies to cater the crowds for Tampines residents within Tampines. 72 has many buses, and thus they have to run at frequent trips in order to ensure all BCs have a fair share of trips daily and also not to the extend of screwing up the frequencies. But I agree that SBST should do something about the Tampines Rd part, which they should consider it as a semi-express road instead so that run time for the road can be shorten by at least 5 mins.
If you want to talk about efficiency about SMRT, they are hardly efficient. Poor and eccentric frequencies, long waiting times, overcrowding to the state that commuters can't even board the bus many times, e.g. 190, 960, 980. They can be fast but some services are actually slower now due to better frequencies, e,g 851. Despite so many years, they still fail to improve their bus services. Efficient, hardly.
However for SBST, they can be slower generally, but some services are actaully faster than years back.
Speedometer doesn’t mean anything isn’t it? So what if SBST buses can travel at up to 90km/h? They will never go at that speed because of safety and their schedules. I agree that SMRT got to improve on their frequency for such services. SBST should adjust some of their bus schedule timings. But why should a bus with better frequency be slower? -
True worst part for 851 when previously got 4 crossover bendies to 856 during AM peak.Already struggling with loads yet the deployment side anyhow whack put 4 851 bendies from WDL to YIS.969 due to complains from public and they are being pressurise so Bo pian put extra bendies.Put extra bendies on 806 at the expense on some trunk svc with high loading,61 from BBT to NP during Am peak CMI,Last time there used to have 2-4 bendies run this block but now,Cheeterok and Osi struggle like mad..154A with DDs ardy struggle like shit yet 61 WAB SDs??
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Originally posted by cheezing:
Speedometer doesn’t mean anything isn’t it? So what if SBST buses can travel at up to 90km/h? They will never go at that speed because of safety and their schedules. I agree that SMRT got to improve on their frequency for such services. SBST should adjust some of their bus schedule timings. But why should a bus with better frequency be slower?to be frank sir, its mostly got to do with how fast the driver want to go
some love it slow, some love to chiong. end result u see is that erratic freq occur.
if u try taking a look at town svcs on saturday afternoons, its very obvious
some svc like 14 or 175 can chalk up to 40 mins waiting time
that includes other like 77 or 700
oops i almost forgot, im gonna get shot back at, they would say maybe 14 and 175 is due to traffic jam, but perhaps smrt ones like 700 is due to
poor scheduling?
poor management of bus fleets?
i dunno... seriously haha its funny seeing how ppl come up with lame excuses to "maintain the throne"
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Originally posted by negotiable:
see what i mean? going off topic again
we're toking abt speed at which buses travel, u ask me if i like the condition of smrt buses
really really cute sial.
trust me, i live in a majority smrt area, i know how their cleaniness is like, u dun have to doubt me.
oh and i dun see first hand how much the cost is like for overhaul or fixing of bus?
did u know that the damage caused to 1105h after the fire was initially estimated at 80k sgd?
ur not the only one here who knows whats going on...
Everyone off topic here smart ass and there's no need to call people bastard if you're professional and educated.Im sure u have moral and learn civil right?You like ppl call u bastard?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Everyone off topic here smart ass and there's no need to call people bastard if you're professional and educated.Im sure u have moral and learn civil right?You like ppl call u bastard?
U also insult other people so STFU!!
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Seriously when I was in Sbst and smrtb last time I love to drive fast but with extra careful..My main focus is good braking and stay alert.I also dont like driving 60 on highways kinda sleepy but hey even smrt buses got speed limiter leh what to do?
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Originally posted by cheezing:
Speedometer doesn’t mean anything isn’t it? So what if SBST buses can travel at up to 90km/h? They will never go at that speed because of safety and their schedules. I agree that SMRT got to improve on their frequency for such services. SBST should adjust some of their bus schedule timings. But why should a bus with better frequency be slower?U sir talk so many more sense than some others here!! SMRT is better than SBS!!!