The Bendy Bus Fan Club (Part I)
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Still better than full rigid fleet. If have full rigid fleet then we need even more bus captains
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In future when DTL phase 1 & 2 ready I'm sure 190 dun need 27 bendies.SMRT absurd deployment you are lucky to see just 15 bendies on this svc.You know how long residents in CCK,BPJ,SBW & YIS wait for new trunk svc from SMRT?Dun bother bout 868 971E etc..
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Bendies at Yishun, Morning Peak Hours..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2ObVBSyYI
Another Video..
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
I already stated clearly no negative remarks about bendies allowed!
Ans: Sometimes the buses can be too slow like a KUB crawling on the expressway. It's not as if I want all vehicle to go 90km/h! 70km/h is more than enough already.
I got to agree with you on this. Sometimes my one and only pet peeve about DDs is they tend to move too slowly for my liking. Some BCs of KuBs also drive like that and I really dunno why. It is infuriating when a BC is driving below 60km/h on an expressway. Speed control is important, but efficiency is a factor not to be missed as well. I like the pace of bendies driven on expressways. This is, IMO, one of the reason why I prefer taking bendies -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
In future when DTL phase 1 & 2 ready I'm sure 190 dun need 27 bendies.SMRT absurd deployment you are lucky to see just 15 bendies on this svc.You know how long residents in CCK,BPJ,SBW & YIS wait for new trunk svc from SMRT?Dun bother bout 868 971E etc..
Wrong, they got a lot of bendies partly because of the expressway!
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
In future when DTL phase 1 & 2 ready I'm sure 190 dun need 27 bendies.SMRT absurd deployment you are lucky to see just 15 bendies on this svc.You know how long residents in CCK,BPJ,SBW & YIS wait for new trunk svc from SMRT?Dun bother bout 868 971E etc..
Think of the times when these bendy buses are extremely crowded, despite their large numbers.
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
I see no reason why a full rigid fleet is better than a rigid fleet with bendies. Bendies really can really solve many problems and some people just don't see it. This is not a debate but if I have to respond,I will. The person who created this topic and the person responding is my friend,we share the same account and he has said nothing offending since you all are so called "not bendy haters". So,why did this argument start in the first place?
You like it or not, SMRT has decided that they will not get bendy buses in future. They will convert their fleet to full single decker buses to boost frequencies and improve their operational efficiency of their bus services. SMRT indeed themselves have recognised that bendy buses are in fact giving them a lot of problems like scheduling of service frequncies, parking spaces in depots, taking up spaces along bus stops and bus lanes and complexity of operating and maintaining such buses.Thus their decision to stop buying bendy buses is more or less fixed. They want to convert to full single decker fleet and they want their spaces in bus depots to be fully parked with more buses instead. Manpower wise, they are sourcing more BCs from countries like China.
Originally posted by SBS8501U:Wrong, they got a lot of bendies partly because of the expressway!
190 was better served under SBS with many double deckers. Then too bad it was transfered to SMRT and I see lesser bendy buses which are not friendly to busy roads in the city. Overcrowding happens and more and more complains came in about not able to board the buses for 190.But anyway DTL will be up in 2017. By then 190 will only need full single deckers to sufficiently cater the lower demand.
Originally posted by cheezing:
I got to agree with you on this. Sometimes my one and only pet peeve about DDs is they tend to move too slowly for my liking. Some BCs of KuBs also drive like that and I really dunno why. It is infuriating when a BC is driving below 60km/h on an expressway. Speed control is important, but efficiency is a factor not to be missed as well. I like the pace of bendies driven on expressways. This is, IMO, one of the reason why I prefer taking bendies
It is not about fast or slow. It is more of the scheduling and timing of the buses. If bus is too ahead of its timing, it will be slow. If bus is late, they will speed.I have taken 168 double deckers along TPE at 65km/h before and there are times double deckers along Orchard Road overtake the bendy bus. And sometimes it is even more frustrsting that a bendy bus being stuck in a junction and bus stop.
Originally posted by SBS8501U:The most possible top choice for SMRT's future bendies is Citaro G (assuming there will be importing of WAB bendies)
Or do you think SMRT will import other type of bendies? Post here if you have different thoughts.
One more thing, this thread is a bendy bus fan club, if you want to post bad things of bendies then this is the wrong place, at least post in other threads but not here!
LTA rejected the Citaro G model into Singapore.
Everyone here is for a discussion. Don't prevent people from posting just because you don't like to listen what is actually happening.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
You like it or not, SMRT has decided that they will not get bendy buses in future. They will convert their fleet to full single decker buses to boost frequencies and improve their operational efficiency of their bus services. SMRT indeed themselves have recognised that bendy buses are in fact giving them a lot of problems like scheduling of service frequncies, parking spaces in depots, taking up spaces along bus stops and bus lanes and complexity of operating and maintaining such buses.Thus their decision to stop buying bendy buses is more or less fixed. They want to convert to full single decker fleet and they want their spaces in bus depots to be fully parked with more buses instead. Manpower wise, they are sourcing more BCs from countries like China.
LTA rejected the Citaro G model into Singapore.
Everyone here is for a discussion. Don't prevent people from posting just because you don't like to listen what is actually happening.
You are clearly just making your own decision. It is clear that the decision hasn't been made and there you are being a smartie by claiming that SMRT gets full SD fleet. We will see in the future.
It's sad to see smarties here predicting what kind of buses SMRT can get in the future
No, I don't think it did. Where's the proof? I don't think there's any.
And this is a club for people to post what they like, and not for bendy mis-fits like you to barge in and whack.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
I have taken 168 double deckers along TPE at 65km/h before and there are times double deckers along Orchard Road overtake the bendy bus. And sometimes it is even more frustrsting that a bendy bus being stuck in a junction and bus stop.
Try taking 72 Double deckers along Tampines Road. They will crawl like snail..
I always see 969 bendy buses overtaking 161 and 168.. -
SMRT Service 962, U-turn at Admiralty Street. Full bus..
Mercedes-Benz O405G Volgren
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
Bendies at Yishun, Morning Peak Hours..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2ObVBSyYI
Another Video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bkh5f5UhwoIf DDs on 806, it may use double the amout of time for passengers to alight!
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Originally posted by No_10_Tomas:
If DDs on 806, it may use double the amout of time for passengers to alight!
Yeah agree. Bendies took less than 1 min for unloading, from full bus to empty
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
Try taking 72 Double deckers along Tampines Road. They will crawl like snail..
I always see 969 bendy buses overtaking 161 and 168..
72 has too much run time, that's why they run so slowly. It is not about double decker buses or not.969 have to speed because of their screwed up scheduling and not enough buses for 969. Else it can be slow at times. I took a 168 Olympian overtaking a 965 bus before. That 965 is a single decker, shouldn't it be faster with lesser loads?
Your logic of bendy buses running faster makes no sense. They driver faster because of screwed up planning by SMRT. But they are also at the risk of being burnt up to ash once the engine gets overheated again. Most of the bendy buses running have a lot of emitting heat. Don't forget how many bendy buses were burnt just because of that.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
You are clearly just making your own decision. It is clear that the decision hasn't been made and there you are being a smartie by claiming that SMRT gets full SD fleet. We will see in the future.
It's sad to see smarties here predicting what kind of buses SMRT can get in the future
No, I don't think it did. Where's the proof? I don't think there's any.
And this is a club for people to post what they like, and not for bendy mis-fits like you to barge in and whack.
Don't believe, you can go ask around. You can ask carbikebus about this. The internal operations have been discussing this as one of the options for years. But recently there have been a talk about using double deckers here, I'm not sure about this but I feel the original plan full single deckers seems more suitable.You want the proof, go look for the proof when hints are given to you. Don't expect people to lay out everything for you just for your sake of convenience. Some things are also not meant to post here. Don't try to act smart to get people spoonfeed you here.
Again want to hear the good things here only, not happy about the things that are really happening, then leave the discussion. You don't own the forum.
Originally posted by TIB1218R:Try taking 72 Double deckers along Tampines Road. They will crawl like snail..
I always see 969 bendy buses overtaking 161 and 168..
72 has too much run time, that's why they run so slowly. It is not about double decker buses or not. Even B10M MKIVs run very slowly along Tampines Road.969 have to speed because of their screwed up scheduling by SMRT and not enough buses for 969. Else it can be slow at times. I took a 168 Olympian overtaking a 965 bus before. That 965 is a single decker, shouldn't it be faster with lesser loads?
Your logic of bendy buses running faster makes no sense. They drive faster because of screwed up planning by SMRT. But they are also at the risk of being burnt up to ash once the engine gets overheated again. Most of the bendy buses running have a lot of heat emitting. Don't forget how many bendy buses were burnt just because of that.
Originally posted by TIB1218R:Yeah agree. Bendies took less than 1 min for unloading, from full bus to empty
You forgot about what if it rains or the EZ link card readers don't work and how long it takes to enter the bus stop and leave the bus stop if the bus lane is busy.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
72 has too much run time, that's why they run so slowly. It is not about double decker buses or not.969 have to speed because of their screwed up scheduling and not enough buses for 969. Else it can be slow at times. I took a 168 Olympian overtaking a 965 bus before. That 965 is a single decker, shouldn't it be faster with lesser loads?
Your logic of bendy buses running faster makes no sense. They driver faster because of screwed up planning by SMRT. But they are also at the risk of being burnt up to ash once the engine gets overheated again. Most of the bendy buses running have a lot of emitting heat. Don't forget how many bendy buses were burnt just because of that.
168 can't speed anymore, with the deployment of Wrights..
969's schedule has been improved recently..
I took 965 everyday. Most of the times, they come on time, even when they speed..
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Originally posted by vicamour:
You forgot about what if it rains or the EZ link card readers don't work and how long it takes to enter the bus stop and leave the bus stop if the bus lane is busy.
It won't always happen..
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
168 can't speed anymore, with the deployment of Wrights..
969's schedule has been improved recently..
I took 965 everyday. Most of the times, they come on time, even when they speed..
lol SBST DDs burnt in group somemore. Any vehicle are at the risk of being burnt.
Deployment of Wrights doesn't mean they can't drive fast. What kind of logic is that? As long as the BCs have to meet the target of the planned time for the trip, they have to adjust the speed. Being on time and safety are the priority for BCs, they won't care whether bus new or not. New bus doesn't mean they cannot speed. I have taken Citaros on 24 speeding on TPE before, even overtaking another 858 O405.969 schedule only bothers to improve a bit after they have added many single deckers recently. But 168 is still better.
If you noticed, SBST fire incident is caused by one bus and spread to other buses parked beside it. So the sole culprit is the Leyland Olympian while the other buses are innocent parties. I think Leyland Olympians are prone to fires probably on their fuel tank designs. In the early years of services, I can smell fuel while inside the bus. And the first Ang Mo Kio depot fire incident in the 90s was also caused by a Leyland Olympian.
Bendy buses fires are much different. All of them are isolated cases whereby the buses started the fire by themselves. Mainly the cause is overworking and easily overheated engines of these bendy buses. All thanks to SMRT terrible bus maintanance regime as well.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Deployment of Wrights doesn't mean they can't drive fast. What kind of logic is that? As long as the BCs have to meet the target of the planned time for the trip, they have to adjust the speed. Being on time and safety are the priority for BCs, they won't care whether bus new or not. New bus doesn't mean they cannot speed. I have taken Citaros on 24 speeding on TPE before, even overtaking another 858 O405.969 schedule only bothers to improve a bit after they have added many single deckers recently. But 168 is still better.
If you noticed, SBST fire incident is caused by one bus and spread to other buses parked beside it. So the sole culprit is the Leyland Olympian while the other buses are innocent parties. I think Leyland Olympians are prone to fires probably on their fuel tank designs. In the early years of services, I can smell fuel while inside the bus. And the first Ang Mo Kio depot fire incident in the 90s was also caused by a Leyland Olympian.
Bendy buses fires are much different. All of them are isolated cases whereby the buses started the fire by themselves. Mainly the cause is overworking and easily overheated engines of these bendy buses. All thanks to SMRT terrible bus maintanance regime as well.
Wrights 60km/h can't speed. I prefer 168 to use Leyland Olympians, no speed limiters
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
Wrights 60km/h can't speed. I prefer 168 to use Leyland Olympians, no speed limiters
How you know? I took B9TL Wrights before on 10 along Upper East Coast Road. BC drive fast because late schedule. -
BENDIES ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF TRAFFIC JAMS! GOOD THAT SMRT WON'T BE BUYING NEW BENDIES AS THEY ALWAYS TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE ON THE ROADS AND BUS STOPS!
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
BENDIES ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF TRAFFIC JAMS! GOOD THAT SMRT WON'T BE BUYING NEW BENDIES AS THEY ALWAYS TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE ON THE ROADS AND BUS STOPS!
Not true, it is too early for importing of new WAB bendies.
I think they will import more WAB standard rigids first before they go on to SMB228X's favourite Citaro G
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Deployment of Wrights doesn't mean they can't drive fast. What kind of logic is that? As long as the BCs have to meet the target of the planned time for the trip, they have to adjust the speed. Being on time and safety are the priority for BCs, they won't care whether bus new or not. New bus doesn't mean they cannot speed. I have taken Citaros on 24 speeding on TPE before, even overtaking another 858 O405.969 schedule only bothers to improve a bit after they have added many single deckers recently. But 168 is still better.
If you noticed, SBST fire incident is caused by one bus and spread to other buses parked beside it. So the sole culprit is the Leyland Olympian while the other buses are innocent parties. I think Leyland Olympians are prone to fires probably on their fuel tank designs. In the early years of services, I can smell fuel while inside the bus. And the first Ang Mo Kio depot fire incident in the 90s was also caused by a Leyland Olympian.
Bendy buses fires are much different. All of them are isolated cases whereby the buses started the fire by themselves. Mainly the cause is overworking and easily overheated engines of these bendy buses. All thanks to SMRT terrible bus maintanance regime as well.
Then Volvo B9TL design come from where???
Leyland Olympian so old easy catch fire should scrap them all!!! Replace with Citaro better!!!
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Deployment of Wrights doesn't mean they can't drive fast. What kind of logic is that? As long as the BCs have to meet the target of the planned time for the trip, they have to adjust the speed. Being on time and safety are the priority for BCs, they won't care whether bus new or not. New bus doesn't mean they cannot speed. I have taken Citaros on 24 speeding on TPE before, even overtaking another 858 O405.969 schedule only bothers to improve a bit after they have added many single deckers recently. But 168 is still better.
If you noticed, SBST fire incident is caused by one bus and spread to other buses parked beside it. So the sole culprit is the Leyland Olympian while the other buses are innocent parties. I think Leyland Olympians are prone to fires probably on their fuel tank designs. In the early years of services, I can smell fuel while inside the bus. And the first Ang Mo Kio depot fire incident in the 90s was also caused by a Leyland Olympian.
Bendy buses fires are much different. All of them are isolated cases whereby the buses started the fire by themselves. Mainly the cause is overworking and easily overheated engines of these bendy buses. All thanks to SMRT terrible bus maintanance regime as well.
Then can I ask you, out of so many bendy buses deployments how many of them had caught fire?
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Originally posted by bus_warrior:
BENDIES ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF TRAFFIC JAMS! GOOD THAT SMRT WON'T BE BUYING NEW BENDIES AS THEY ALWAYS TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE ON THE ROADS AND BUS STOPS!
U got no prove u STFU!!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Then Volvo B9TL design come from where???
Leyland Olympian so old easy catch fire should scrap them all!!! Replace with Citaro better!!!
Citaros are meant to replace rigids and bendies only, Mercedes-Benz has never produced DDs before, unless you want to propose lah!