High loading bus routes (Top 5)
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Marine Parade soon will have bus hubs..Hope there's a small toilet too for the drivers.
Which routes do u think will call at Marine Parade bus hub? 76, 966? -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
74's loading on the opposite side is not high. If SBST wants to continue with a few B10Ms, it should plan in a way that in mornings, SDs ply during peak hours between BNV - HG and in the evening from HG-BNV. During non-peak hours, I am indifferent.
165s loading is very high between AMK - HG, otherwise not much.
I feel even the loading on 132 and 153 has really reduced over the months. So many DDs not needed. Shift some to 2, 100, 135, 163.
Are you sure?
Please think before you post.
74's non-peak hour being insignificant to you? Don't you realise that its a large student crowd we are talking about here? Like 147, which also has a nearly full DD fleet, the crowd doesn't appear even after 10pm!
And if 74's loading swings directionally the whole day with crowds on both side in the afternoon, you might as well be employed specifically to direct oh which DD goes where?
Loading on 132 and 153 are still high. 153's crowd disappears at Toa Payoh doesn't mean that the load won't spike again near Serangoon.
How are you gonna be taken seriously if you just type without thinking??
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Are you sure?
Please think before you post.
74's non-peak hour being insignificant to you? Don't you realise that its a large student crowd we are talking about here? Like 147, which also has a nearly full DD fleet, the crowd doesn't appear even after 10pm!
And if 74's loading swings directionally the whole day with crowds on both side in the afternoon, you might as well be employed specifically to direct oh which DD goes where?
Loading on 132 and 153 are still high. 153's crowd disappears at Toa Payoh doesn't mean that the load won't spike again near Serangoon.
How are you gonna be taken seriously if you just type without thinking??
I am typing what I observe - no need to get emotional about it my friend. It is all about perspective and our opinions can differ.
I agree 74 has high loading but whenevr I have taken a fully packed DD (120 pax) and I see the DDs on the opposite side of the road. They are hardly with people. Hence I feel it is uni-directional load.
132 - Let me point out the high loading part. Have you taken this bus ever to Hougang? I have. Huge crowd between Henderson to Redhill (80-90 pax), Redhill - Orchard (50 pax), beyond Orchard till AMK (30 pax), AMK (+90 pax). But then any bus at AMK station during peak hour is filled to the brim.
153 - Load strictly uni-directional. Bus does not see more than 50 pax on 90% of its route. This has happened so many times when I have taken it to HG. and I count the pax (so I know what I am talking).
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74's scheduling and run time makes B10M slotting pretty tricky from e way I see it.
Might as well go fully ADD..
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Svc 8 has some parts of its route parallel to 65 but Toa Payoh - Macpherson and again Tampines Ave 1 are all high loading areas.I still did not understand why SBST introduced DDs on 90. It has parallel route with 8 until Airport road junction - rather deploy more DDs on 8.
The 85% QoS.In any case, 153's demand can be pretty at high times
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Your opinion pisses me off.
And all of us who have to endure seeing a fully-packed 74 refusing to stop during non-peak hours.
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most packed to least: 179 74 170 27 36
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
153 - Load strictly uni-directional. Bus does not see more than 50 pax on 90% of its route. This has happened so many times when I have taken it to HG. and I count the pax (so I know what I am talking).
I remember taking Trident on this service during evening, full to the brim from Whitley Road untill Serangoon..
Maybe you took at the wrong time. -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
Marine Parade soon will have bus hubs..Hope there's a small toilet too for the drivers.
Is a bus hub necessary???Or should LTA build a bus interchange in Marine Parade Central instead??? Since there will be a MRT station there in future...
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though not a 74 regular (but more of a 151 154 one), I would find that putting the B10Ms on permenent split shift is better than putting it on regular shift, of which most of them are. problem is putting them on the right timeslot.. direction doesnt matter, its timing.
132, for many years, only have seen higher loads are the 2 ends of the route. the whitley-orchard sector has only about 55-70 pax on average during peak.
153 loads has dropped a lot since NEL opened, where those days when 153 had 4-6min frequency towards bt merah during AM Peak.. now its mostly catered to the school crowd. most of the time the bus gets packed due to the school children.
as to why 90 needs DDs... imagine you are at macpherson rd going to toa payoh. the sv 8 DD comes.. packed... the next 8 DD comes.. packed.. the 90 scania comes.. also packed... what can you do? the 1825hrs and 1845hrs arrival at toa payoh are justified for its loads, as well as 0650 and 0710 trips from toa payoh in the morning.
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Explains why 153 got so many SDs nowadays,74 maximun can have only 2 SDs on split duty.Since its so called part of student svc again those cronies won't bother much.90 seriously need 5 SDs 3 DDs.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Is a bus hub necessary???Or should LTA build a bus interchange in Marine Parade Central instead??? Since there will be a MRT station there in future...
Land issue I think.Marine Parade IMO need bigger bus bay aka hub.But current site is not suitable as its jam prone with vehicles and taxis entering PP.Would be good if they built just after the PP exit ie after the current bus stop.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Land issue I think.Marine Parade IMO need bigger bus bay aka hub.But current site is not suitable as its jam prone with vehicles and taxis entering PP.Would be good if they built just after the PP exit ie after the current bus stop.
Land is not a problem if there is going to be a MRT station built there. LTA surely will demolish some of the buildings there to build the MRT station below Marine Parade Central.Parkway Parade will most likely stay, which I feel the shophouses and the wet market/hawker center to be demolished. Then the land above the MRT will become an integrated transport hub with bus interchange like the one in Ang Mo Kio. The bus interchange entrance and exit will be Marine Parade Central which leads to PP carpark.
But my favourite eating spot, Marine Parade wet market/hawker center should be relocated, to either the land beside Paramount shopping center or in Katong shopping center. At least can liven the place a bit, since now these 2 places are almost like ghost town...
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I want to see a few DDs on 100. I feel the route deserves to have DDs considering the peak hour load. In fact, some DDs can be moved from 111 to 100.
There are only a few time slots when 132, 153 have a lot of load, hence I am not sure if so many DDs are justified. I feel 100, 135 need them more.
More DDs required on 2, 7, 8, 133, 163 and some DDs can be moved from 30, 132, 143, 153.
Also does 139 really require 2 DDs?
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The reasons why 100 can't use DD is the stretch along Upp aljunied there.The historic tree branches are dangling out and for weird reason NEA dun want to cut those branches.Rumours there have been several accident involving those who tried to trim down the branches.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
The reasons why 100 can't use DD is the stretch along Upp aljunied there.The historic tree branches are dangling out and for weird reason NEA dun want to cut those branches.Rumours there have been several accident involving those who tried to trim down the branches.
They should relocate the trees further in.Those trees will sooner or later be gone when HDB builds HDB flats there in the future.
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But there are many old trees there that seem worth preserving. After all Bidadari itself did have a very long history.
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Ya man...Those trees look like some taboo.My bike ever stall at Upp Aljunied at 1.45am and the feel is very creepy sial..Lucky I'm not panic and after 4 mins it start back
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
But there are many old trees there that seem worth preserving. After all Bidadari itself did have a very long history.
They can be relocated to some parks if the government wants to. But once something is being planned to build there, everything else will be destroyed, like it or not.Many old buildings are not preserved, let alone trees.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
most packed to least: 179 74 170 27 36
36 go airport wont exceed 10 people.Crowd booms after ECP,at marine parade,suntec and orchard area.
170 not packed at novena there.But go kranji.3 B10Ms cant even fix the crowd
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36,51,170 etc are all like trunk/feeder combo no need all the way from point A to B.161,168,969 all because of its journey time so ppl think they're more faster than taking trains..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
The reasons why 100 can't use DD is the stretch along Upp aljunied there.The historic tree branches are dangling out and for weird reason NEA dun want to cut those branches.Rumours there have been several accident involving those who tried to trim down the branches.
When I mentioned earlier, DDs cannot be used on 100 coz of Upp Aljunied, some bright fella mentioned that 135 had DDs so that cannot be the reason. -
135 ever had O305...
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
36,51,170 etc are all like trunk/feeder combo no need all the way from point A to B.161,168,969 all because of its journey time so ppl think they're more faster than taking trains..
Most routes in SG are that way. There is a need for route re-vamping. There are hardly any routes that will go fully occupied in one direction, and there are lesser than 10 that will go fully loaded on both directions and there is none during off-peak hours. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
135 ever had O305...
ever? or u meant never?