Double Deckers for SMRT
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
No need to lock this thread. It is high time that SMRT should convert changing to double deckers. You told a guy off in the Scania topic in another thread, so why you want to stop people on their views about this topic???
Sorry, but actually why I think like that is because I felt suspicious of that person...I had no motives to stop people on their views on this topic.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
It's not true.
Why SMRT can't buy double deckers? They should change to double deckers so that their operations will be smoother, more buses can be parked inside the depot, and less jams and queues in bus interchanges. SMRT bus services is so messed up now, and these long buses are partially the reason behind it. SMRT has to be practical on its operations and use the kind of buses that don't give them so much problems which yet offer them a chance to improve their services, not fanciful thoughts of trying to be different which in the end become worse in which what they are in now.
And if LTA wants to put more buses on the roads, then please get rid of all the bendies or else there will be many problems with long bus queues, jams along bus stops, interchanges, etc. Hong Kong bus system is successful in such a populated city, fast and efficient. We should look into practical ways to improve our bus system, not buy these road hogging buses for the sake of having them.
In fact, double deckers are more easier to control than bendies because they are the same length of single deckers. Bendies are hard to reverse, sharp turns, U-turns. The thing being different driving a double decker from a single decker is just have to be careful and slow down on turns and be wary of low height areas (if stick to the route, then there is no problem at all). Thus it is easier to train BCs. Training all BCs to drive these big capacity buses does not happen overnight. SMRT can still train them batch by batch, as SMRT buys new double deckers batch by batch to replace the bendies scrapped batch by batch.
Isn't it the same as what SBST and SMRT train their BCs to drive WAB buses 4 years back? It can be done.
So, SMRT can still change to double deckers and ditch bendies for good.
I wonder where he get all these infos from...ever since he registered himself I had begun to sense something wrong that will happen involving him...
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
UNCLE, CITARO IS NO LONGER SOLD.
Citaro still got produce!!
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buy the leylands from SBST lor -
Originally posted by Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1): buy the leylands from SBST lor
so SBS and SMRT buying 800 more Wrights?????????
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Originally posted by sbst275:
so who are you either to say that our infrastructure can continueto use bendies?Look at Clementi, Sengkang, Toa Payoh, AMK, Boon Lay.You live within the infrastructure limits, and not startthrowing challenges to it.like I'll say, LTA dun need to openly say I restrict or banbendies, I just dun need to plan for them for new BIs.. This isSingapore style of doing things.Looks like your cannot see far either.Cannot accept SMRT for who they are? Eh, are they e regulators?So LTA or SMRT bigger over just is bendies ok on the road?Kids I have no say over the infra here, But I managed to live with it. Did you? I dont think you do right? Some of the things I dont see fit I've learnt to keep quiet. Only people like you would make noise over it and complain.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U: You are that stupid kid who should stop that hermit idea thatSMRT should use bendies only. You don't even know what is happeningnow and what is planned for the future. SMRT bus can be greatlyimproved without these bendies. Even SMRT itself has thought ofswitching to double deckers. You are just one selfish brat whowants to see SMRT operations sinking because of your own fantasies.Infrastructure wise and population density for future only supportsfast and efficient 12 m buses.You want bendies, then migrate to Europe, kiddo Can't I express myself in a different manner? You are sad really. What SMRT does is to express themselves in a different manner and there you are making noise out of it. I'm not selfish but each has a different way to express themselves .
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Long bus?
Actually it meant Articulated Bus.
Nononono not SBS997A, that is superlong [ non-articulated ] -
Originally posted by SMB228X:
Citaro still got produce!!
Yes it is STILL in production, I did not mention that it is no longer in production.
But it is no longer accepting orders.
So you keep quiet and stop giving SgForums stupid one-word answers.
''One Does Not Simply Post One Word'' -
Originally posted by TIB783G:
Originally posted by SBS 1000U: You are that stupid kid who should stop that hermit idea thatSMRT should use bendies only. You don't even know what is happeningnow and what is planned for the future. SMRT bus can be greatlyimproved without these bendies. Even SMRT itself has thought ofswitching to double deckers. You are just one selfish brat whowants to see SMRT operations sinking because of your own fantasies.Infrastructure wise and population density for future only supportsfast and efficient 12 m buses.You want bendies, then migrate to Europe, kiddo Can't I express myself in a different manner? You are sad really. What SMRT does is to express themselves in a different manner and there you are making noise out of it. I'm not selfish but each has a different way to express themselves .
Express yourself in a different manner by calling others a kid??? If that is your way to express your views, then you better reflect on what you have said. I am just sharing my views on what is happening now and in future and whatever that I know, but you deliberately want to stir things up with these and not accepting what is happening around you. Things are changing now and for the future and you are still behaving like a brat here to keep on insisting SMRT should use bendies where it is not going to be feasible in future.
Btw, SMRT has already expressed their interest in switching to double deckers before. That was in their minds for quite some time and that was what they actually hoped to achieve in long run. Bendies are not their purchase at all. It was TIBS. So respect their decisions, will you???
Seriously get a life and go and open your eyes to observe what is actually happening.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Express yourself in a different manner by calling others a kid??? If that is your way to express your views, then you better reflect on what you have said. I am just sharing my views on what is happening now and in future and whatever that I know, but you deliberately want to stir things up with these and not accepting what is happening around you. Things are changing now and for the future and you are still behaving like a brat here to keep on insisting SMRT should use bendies where it is not going to be feasible in future.
Btw, SMRT has already expressed their interest in switching to double deckers before. That was in their minds for quite some time and that was what they actually hoped to achieve in long run. Bendies are not their purchase at all. It was TIBS. So respect their decisions, will you???
Seriously get a life and go and open your eyes to observe what is actually happening.
Really, you missed my whole point. I called you a kid back in my previous post because it seems that it coming out of your mouth and it is not official. You fabricated this whole thing. Yes, Things do change and I might not see bendies near future. I don't deny bendies are taking up space but the company itself wants to by that style of bus. What can you say? You can't stop SMRT for buying the style of buses they like do you? Up till now it still hasn't been made official that they are getting double deckers - Even if they expressed their interest before. Whatever the outcome, I'll respect it. Right from the start it was you who fabricated about bendies being banned, and all these nonsense. 'Your LTA friend here and there' Which hasn't been made official. LTA people will see and assess the situation whether or not they will let this kind of vehicle on our roads. They aren't fools and they can see for themseves.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
Really, you missed my whole point. I called you a kid back in my previous post because it seems that it coming out of your mouth and it is not official. You fabricated this whole thing. Yes, Things do change and I might not see bendies near future. I don't deny bendies are taking up space but the company itself wants to by that style of bus. What can you say? You can't stop SMRT for buying the style of buses they like do you? Up till now it still hasn't been made official that they are getting double deckers - Even if they expressed their interest before. Whatever the outcome, I'll respect it. Right from the start it was you who fabricated about bendies being banned, and all these nonsense. 'Your LTA friend here and there' Which hasn't been made official. LTA people will see and assess the situation whether or not they will let this kind of vehicle on our roads. They aren't fools and they can see for themseves.
I share on what I have heard from my source. If you do not believe and accept any facts, you do not have to criticise others. It makes you look very petty here.
Like what I have said before, LTA and transport operators do not have to make official on every decision that they make to the public. They do not have to answer everything that they do which do not have much impact to the public. I had quoted many examples previously. You can insist you want official statements but LTA nor the bus operators are not going to tell you anything like what they had done things in the past and they don't see the need to. They just implement it gradually when the decision is made. Likewise for SMRT, they wanted to switch to double deckers because of operating issues.
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Just leave it to SMRT and LTA to decide what buses are they buying..It's up to them to decide..Just keep quiet and see their next move..
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Citaro still got produce!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
SBS also!! Should not only be DD only they should get some Citaro Gs!!!
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LOCK THIS THREAD WITH REFERENCE TO SBS9252G :
Just leave it to SMRT and LTA to decide what buses are they buying..It's up to them to decide..Just keep quiet and see their next move..This thread is no longer useful. It is just a open thread for arguments.
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I think that is quite lame that SMRT cannot operate DDs coz it has to train its BCs. Anyway, I think it is a good idea to have a good mix of Double decker buses that should be used on routes 190, 851, 67 at least.
I have personally travelled in bendies and find it quite annoying. And stop asking to lock this thread coz it differs from your opinion.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think that is quite lame that SMRT cannot operate DDs coz it has to train its BCs. Anyway, I think it is a good idea to have a good mix of Double decker buses that should be used on routes 190, 851, 67 at least.
I have personally travelled in bendies and find it quite annoying. And stop asking to lock this thread coz it differs from your opinion.
Then SBS can do the same and get Citaro Gs. Or hand some services to SMRT that bendy buses are best for like 96 195 241!!!
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think that is quite lame that SMRT cannot operate DDs coz it has to train its BCs. Anyway, I think it is a good idea to have a good mix of Double decker buses that should be used on routes 190, 851, 67 at least.
I have personally travelled in bendies and find it quite annoying. And stop asking to lock this thread coz it differs from your opinion.
Smrt cant operate dds because their infrastructure is not ready to accept dds yet, not because their SLs needs to be trained. If you can drive an articulated vehicle and reverse it properly, there's pretty much nothing that you need more training to drive.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
I share on what I have heard from my source. If you do not believe and accept any facts, you do not have to criticise others. It makes you look very petty here.
Like what I have said before, LTA and transport operators do not have to make official on every decision that they make to the public. They do not have to answer everything that they do which do not have much impact to the public. I had quoted many examples previously. You can insist you want official statements but LTA nor the bus operators are not going to tell you anything like what they had done things in the past and they don't see the need to. They just implement it gradually when the decision is made. Likewise for SMRT, they wanted to switch to double deckers because of operating issues.
I'm not petty but seems like you are acting like 'an authorative figure' here, claiming you have heard from 'your source' here and there, Which is ficitious in the first place. Your point here isnt even 'strong enough' to prove me wrong. Even if they didn't make it official they can twist and bend the rules anytime they want to. To me you are just another bendy hater who forces SMRT to switch to double decks and implement it on the spot. I do accept facts only if they are made official and not the fictious ones you've made. You can't give official statements don't try to act authority here.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think that is quite lame that SMRT cannot operate DDs coz it has to train its BCs. Anyway, I think it is a good idea to have a good mix of Double decker buses that should be used on routes 190, 851, 67 at least.
I have personally travelled in bendies and find it quite annoying. And stop asking to lock this thread coz it differs from your opinion.
Personally, I feel it can't be forced to let drivers take DDs for SMRT because most of the time they are stuck on bendies. I believe they are better off driving bendies though.
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Did you read the comment from Bus Stopping?
That bendies are harder to drive than DDs?
Or are you just well and truly deluded as so many people have alluded with regards to whatever you have to say?
In any case, I have every reason to believe SBS1000U, whether it is substantiated or not.
Bendies have not been well-received here in recent years.
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Go ahead, I'm fine with people siding with whoever they like, It's their choice afterall.
I'm not blind and can see for myself.
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
UNCLE, CITARO IS NO LONGER SOLD.
UNLCE, CITARO IS STILL IN PRODUCTION AND TAKING ORDERS FOR THE 2011 CITARO WTH TALKING YOU.