Revised bus service QoS 2012

• sbst275

  8 Mar 12, 10:36

  To be placed to make it clearer... Trunk Svs (Incl of hybird). 1 hr peak with peak, peak direction (TBC) 80%: 10 mins or less scheduled headways. 10%: 12 mins or less 10%: 20 mins or less. Svs affected by the 20 mins max: 11, 42, 115, 191, 194, 400, 402, 403, 882. Feeder Svs. 2 hrs peak within peak. 95%: 10 mins or less. 5%: 15 mins or less. Svs affected by the 15 mins rule: 228, 275, 354, 920, 922 The other bus svs would be forced to improve the bus freq esp the trunk ones (12 mins quota in particular).
• sbst275

  8 Mar 12, 10:43

  I think SMRT's feeder case is headache..

  Cos 920 would have to go 10 mins, 922 the only one w/ 15 mins headways (Based on no of feeders SMRT has)...

  SBST's case only 275 can go 15 mins...

• sbst275

  8 Mar 12, 12:34

  Bus Svs > 12 mins freq

  Likely candidates

  SBST: 11, 40, 42, 84, 93, 115, 119, 158, 191, 194, 246, 251, 400, 401, 403..

  Woah.. Sv 18, 34, 45, 52, 64, 85, 113, 123, 138, 155, 156, 175, 162 would need to meet the 12 mins mark liao...

  *Note 158 can become 12 mins, but that means either 52 or 113 or 156 stand in.

  SMRT: 177, 178, 927, 981

  Sv 77, 852, 882, 965, 980 would be forced to improve to 12 mins headways.

   

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 17:18

  Really? 113 gets more buses?? Cool... Anyway the bus svcs u listed out that must meet the 12 min mark are high demand svcs!! Finally 113 will get improvements!

• SBS9252G

  8 Mar 12, 17:56

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Really? 113 gets more buses?? Cool... Anyway the bus svcs u listed out that must meet the 12 min mark are high demand svcs!! Finally 113 will get improvements!

  it's not only on 113, there is other services is worse than 113.

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 18:05

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  it's not only on 113, there is other services is worse than 113.

  Like?

• SMB228X

  8 Mar 12, 18:08

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Really? 113 gets more buses?? Cool... Anyway the bus svcs u listed out that must meet the 12 min mark are high demand svcs!! Finally 113 will get improvements!

  113 should get Citaros!

• SBS9252G

  8 Mar 12, 18:15

  Originally posted by SMB228X:

  113 should get Citaros!

  Citaros just ply on low demand service bah..

• sbst275

  8 Mar 12, 19:10

  oh wait

  965 would be forced to go QoS 10 mins

• sbst191

  8 Mar 12, 19:15

  Originally posted by SMB228X:

  113 should get Citaros!

  And wrights! 

• sbst191

  8 Mar 12, 19:18

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  Citaros just ply on low demand 

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 19:23

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  Citaros just ply on low demand service bah..

  Citaro on 113 cfm die one.. If kub come also full what can a citaro do? Take sv 53 as an example. Most of the time citaro full from LAS-SGN, but actually if a kub comes, the load not packed to the door, but near the wheelchair area. Citaros should be deployed on Sv112,115,119 .. I donno y SBST didnt deploy SBS997A to svc 113 but deployed on 83 instead. Plus citaros the loading limit is lesser than a mk4 -.-' 

• Gus.chong

  8 Mar 12, 20:18

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Really? 113 gets more buses?? Cool... Anyway the bus svcs u listed out that must meet the 12 min mark are high demand svcs!! Finally 113 will get improvements!

  113 likely will upgrade to a full Scania K230UB fleet.

• Gus.chong

  8 Mar 12, 20:19

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Citaro on 113 cfm die one.. If kub come also full what can a citaro do? Take sv 53 as an example. Most of the time citaro full from LAS-SGN, but actually if a kub comes, the load not packed to the door, but near the wheelchair area. Citaros should be deployed on Sv112,115,119 .. I donno y SBST didnt deploy SBS997A to svc 113 but deployed on 83 instead. Plus citaros the loading limit is lesser than a mk4 -.-' 

  Will anyone take a Citaro on the Hougang services?

• Gus.chong

  8 Mar 12, 20:20

  Originally posted by sbst191:

  And wrights! 

  Low demand, who will go to the upper deck?

• SMB228X

  8 Mar 12, 20:22

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Citaro on 113 cfm die one.. If kub come also full what can a citaro do? Take sv 53 as an example. Most of the time citaro full from LAS-SGN, but actually if a kub comes, the load not packed to the door, but near the wheelchair area. Citaros should be deployed on Sv112,115,119 .. I donno y SBST didnt deploy SBS997A to svc 113 but deployed on 83 instead. Plus citaros the loading limit is lesser than a mk4 -.-' 

  Superlong on 113!!!! :DDD

• sbst191

  8 Mar 12, 20:28

  Originally posted by Gus.chong:

  Low demand, who will go to the upper deck?

  Low demand ? LOL. 191 is what i call low demand.

  Explain dds on feeder svcs?

  since ppl dont move up to the upper deck???? Why deploy DDs? Dont post here and think u're smart ! :D:D:D:D

• sbst191

  8 Mar 12, 20:29

  Originally posted by SMB228X:

  Superlong on 113!!!! :DDD

  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 20:31

  Originally posted by Gus.chong:

  Low demand, who will go to the upper deck?

  lol? Low demand? maybe you havent take 113 b4!!!

  i know you favour your own services lor.. since you want your favoured svcs to have wrights and citaros and other svcs cant have it??

  Put yourself into the shoes of the commuters of svc 113, Mister!

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 20:31

  Originally posted by SMB228X:

  Superlong on 113!!!! :DDD

  i was just joking man. Srsly why deploy on 83?

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 20:33

  Originally posted by sbst191:

  Low demand ? LOL. 191 is what i call low demand.

  Explain dds on feeder svcs?

  since ppl dont move up to the upper deck???? Why deploy DDs? Dont post here and think u're smart ! :D:D:D:D

  YES. you are right man.

  i took svc 165 and 58 before and the funny thing is many dds are deployed yet the demand is not there. Pretty absurd.

• Gus.chong

  8 Mar 12, 20:34

  Originally posted by sbst191:

  Low demand ? LOL. 191 is what i call low demand.

  Explain dds on feeder svcs?

  since ppl dont move up to the upper deck???? Why deploy DDs? Dont post here and think u're smart ! :D:D:D:D

  I am exactly smart, not like someone who posted the wrong things and then claim that the one speaking the truth to be acting smart.

  321 have DDs before. If 321 & 326 merged during that time, 113 will definitely have DDs, but why no? That's because of some reasons by SBST.

• Gus.chong

  8 Mar 12, 20:36

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  lol? Low demand? maybe you havent take 113 b4!!!

  i know you favour your own services lor.. since you want your favoured svcs to have wrights and citaros and other svcs cant have it??

  Put yourself into the shoes of the commuters of svc 113, Mister!

  Of course I rarely took 113, but can you still understand why 321 have DDs, and 113 have none? I just don't know what's happening to you guys...you are prejudiced with SBST.

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 20:37

  Originally posted by Gus.chong:

  I am exactly smart, not like someone who posted the wrong things and then claim that the one speaking the truth to be acting smart.

  321 have DDs before. If 321 & 326 merged during that time, 113 will definitely have DDs, but why no? That's because of some reasons by SBST.

  I heard from someone working in SBST, that 113 is restricted to DDs because of the st 11 turn, and the loading of 113 havent exceed 95%, but reaching 90% loading during the peak hours

• SBS5010P

  8 Mar 12, 20:37

  Originally posted by Gus.chong:

  Of course I rarely took 113, but can you still understand why 321 have DDs, and 113 have none? I just don't know what's happening to you guys...you are prejudiced with SBST.

  Vo2x is 10m right? can easily turn in St 11's road