Massive jam at Woodlands Regional Interchange
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haiyah... basically it's just one SL reverse his bus too much. rigid O405 some more.
what to do, it has happened.
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Cant be helped la. Lets close ranks and move on.Originally posted by sinicker:haiyah... basically it's just one SL reverse his bus too much. rigid O405 some more.
what to do, it has happened.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
LTA and SMRT should just ban and stop the use of bendy buses. They jam and clog up every place they go, bus stops, bus interchanges, bus depots, busy roads, small roads, etc.
Just imagine this incident is caused by a bendy bus that covers the whole lanes across the road in Woodlands interchange, or a bus reversing trying to get out of the berth because a bendy bus blocked its way but instead hit another incoming bus behind, imagine how long the queue be, espeically when there are many bendy buses in the queues.
Not just Woodlands, Yishun interchange also will experience long queues of bendy buses if one of them got stuck in the alighting berth, and the bus stops along Yishun Ave 2 just outside Northpoint, just imagine how many people are late for work because of these long queues of bendy buses...
If you keep shiftin' the blame all the way to bendies, Then I suggest can you please wake up and stop shiftin' the blame?
Bendies aren't deployed in the name of fun. They are deployed (full day or split) because the demand is there, Like sv856 which has majority of bendies are full day starts, 854 has 4 full day bendy starts, and 169 has 2 full day bendies for a start. I believe the starter don't place bendies (as full day starts or splits) for no reason. Anything that you aren't sastisfied with, Take it up to the dispatching office. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
If you keep shiftin' the blame all the way to bendies, Then I suggest can you please wake up and stop shiftin' the blame?
Bendies aren't deployed in the name of fun. They are deployed (full day or split) because the demand is there, Like sv856 which has majority of bendies are full day starts, 854 has 4 full day bendy starts, and 169 has 2 full day bendies for a start. I believe the starter don't place bendies (as full day starts or splits) for no reason. Anything that you aren't sastisfied with, Take it up to the dispatching office. Simple as that.
Right. I don't think bendies are deployed for no reason.
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I still hoping for SMRT to buy WAB Bendies.... Hope its Citaro G.... I love the tradition of SG buses, ADD for SBS and Bendies for SMRT
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
If you keep shiftin' the blame all the way to bendies, Then I suggest can you please wake up and stop shiftin' the blame?
Bendies aren't deployed in the name of fun. They are deployed (full day or split) because the demand is there, Like sv856 which has majority of bendies are full day starts, 854 has 4 full day bendy starts, and 169 has 2 full day bendies for a start. I believe the starter don't place bendies (as full day starts or splits) for no reason. Anything that you aren't sastisfied with, Take it up to the dispatching office. Simple as that.
Sorry, I am not even referring to the deployment. It is right to deploy higher capacity buses for timings for higher demands. But bendy buses are not suitable for our narrow and busy roads and bus stops, bus interchanges and bus depots which have limited space. One bus stop can comfortably stop 3 12 m buses instead of 2 bendy buses hogging even out of the bus bay.Double deckers will provide a better job of catering high demands yet take up lesser space on the roads and other bus facilities. Since SMRT is switching from Mercedes to MAN, might as well switch to double deckers by MAN as well.
It smoothen their traffic operations in bus depots and interchanges and also help to cater high demands as well. The space they use to park bendies can park double the number of double deckers, which can easily solve the problem of overloaded buses.
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If they insist on keeping bendies then its better to have 3-1 exchange for their current bendies to WAB ones.Limited it to just 120 units only and priority for feeders and high demand short haul svc.Service like 190 can have 6 units split ones and freq should be more better.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
If you keep shiftin' the blame all the way to bendies, Then I suggest can you please wake up and stop shiftin' the blame?
Bendies aren't deployed in the name of fun. They are deployed (full day or split) because the demand is there, Like sv856 which has majority of bendies are full day starts, 854 has 4 full day bendy starts, and 169 has 2 full day bendies for a start. I believe the starter don't place bendies (as full day starts or splits) for no reason. Anything that you aren't sastisfied with, Take it up to the dispatching office. Simple as that.
It's what's the use of it.
Also, our infrastructure has to suit to the bendies. From the BI parking bay and so on..
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Double deckers will provide a better job of catering high demands yet take up lesser space on the roads and other bus facilities. Since SMRT is switching from Mercedes to MAN, might as well switch to double deckers by MAN as well.
It smoothen their traffic operations in bus depots and interchanges and also help to cater high demands as well. The space they use to park bendies can park double the number of double deckers, which can easily solve the problem of overloaded buses.
Next time if you live in either WDL CCK or YIS, Don't come crying claiming that rigids are pack and the roads aren't both DD and bendy-friendly either, and all you can do is seeing 5 packed buses straight come flying at your face, You'll know what I'll mean.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
Next time if you live in either WDL CCK or YIS, Don't come crying claiming that rigids are pack and the roads aren't both DD and bendy-friendly either, and all you can do is seeing 5 packed buses straight come flying at your face, You'll know what I'll mean.
No I don't.
27 has full rigid fleet with very high demand and nobody is crying yet.
It all boils down to SMRT's ability to cope with the crowd and besides selected services like 190 and 854, the rest of the services can make me cry.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
Next time if you live in either WDL CCK or YIS, Don't come crying claiming that rigids are pack and the roads aren't both DD and bendy-friendly either, and all you can do is seeing 5 packed buses straight come flying at your face, You'll know what I'll mean.
Many of the roads in Woodlands are DD ok.In fact the bus stops there are only meant for 12m buses cos raining how?
woah
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Let's face it. Bendies are a real pain seriously.
As a driver, bendies are also buses I have to be particularly wary of because of the rear trailer. It doesn't mean bendies are inherently dangerous. I'm just pointing out that the flexible body mean the driver has to be wary of other things such as its length and the flexing body.
And bendies really take up more space than could have been. DDs would be more welcomed. 2 DDs can be accomodated comfortably at one bus-stop. That is not true for 2 bendies. Parking lots are another problem.
I mean. There has to be a good reason why 998Y and 999U remain as figments of history.
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Months back
3x bendies at Clementi Stn (184, 189) together, alrdy cause bus jam at entire junction...
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Clementi is one place to avoid when possible...the jam there is horrid.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
Next time if you live in either WDL CCK or YIS, Don't come crying claiming that rigids are pack and the roads aren't both DD and bendy-friendly either, and all you can do is seeing 5 packed buses straight come flying at your face, You'll know what I'll mean.
I still remember when 811 was not yet able to accomodate bendies, i had to take the other direction just to get on during peak hours. So much students from other schools taking it. Good thing they relocated the berth and added in bendies.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
Next time if you live in either WDL CCK or YIS, Don't come crying claiming that rigids are pack and the roads aren't both DD and bendy-friendly either, and all you can do is seeing 5 packed buses straight come flying at your face, You'll know what I'll mean.
Chua Chu Kang, Bukit Panjang and Bukit Batok were under SBS previously, so there will be no problems for double deckers. Woodlands as mentioned, the roads are suitable for double deckers too.For Yishun, the current bus interchange will be torn down soon and replaced by one that is able to accomodate double deckers. Some of the roads there have lower trees but they can replaced by taller ones if LTA and National Parks are bothered to do so. Some small trees were replace before by taller trees, especially the stretch along Yishun Central outside KTPH.
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The only place tat's not suitable for DDs to use is parts of Woodlands Rd..
But that one is solvable.