SBST New WAB services from 3rd Dec?
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no wonder 143 is the only tpy end to berth svc to be WAB.... due to one of the corner which is piw accessible
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157 163 can be declared WAB anytime. Probably not in demand yet. 73 238 i've said the reason up this page.Originally posted by SBS8676Z:Actually, I dun see any issues with the boarding areas for services 73, 157, 163 and 238 at Toa Payoh int. But then 142, 231G/W, 232, 235 can declare WAB? Please enlighten me.
For the rest of the Toa Payoh trunk services it is due to the fact that the parking berths do have problems...
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Originally posted by service_238:
157 163 can be declared WAB anytime. Probably not in demand yet. 73 238 i've said the reason up this page.
i heard 238 is due to the high high demand queue at the boarding berth.. hmm..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Can i ask kindly where's the e-timetable list for those services without e-timetable yet? Just want to find out too.
no.. they still dun have e-timetable lah.. but can see from those crossover service of the timetable change from 3rd dec...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
So far, there is no news of any new WAB services for SBST yet .... for the last few times, it seem like poster were put up quite early... this time round no news, but base on e-timetable, the following services should be declared as WAB services from 3rd Dec.
Sv 16
Sv 30
Sv 87
Sv 96
Sv 165
Sv 175Sv83 and Sv101 might also be declared as WAB as well...
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Press release out:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/14_wab_svc.pdf
16, 30, 87, 101, 131, 175, 272, 273, 275, 282, 284, 285, 292 and 403
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scania 8053 seen on 282 today with desto; EDS showing SBS Transit
Hope they do something about it soon.
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Originally posted by SinkTel:
Press release out:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/14_wab_svc.pdf
16, 30, 87, 101, 131, 175, 272, 273, 275, 282, 284, 285, 292 and 403
Spot on with 403!
Just need to see if AMDEP does anything with their KUBs, there's 4 Euro IVs there including a certain 8342L which flew over from BN and no perm yet. Unlikely they will take out 3 SP KUBs from BNDEP to put into 292 and 403, and leave only 1 spare KUB in its fleet.175 just probably needs 5 Citaros to clear those 5 JB Mk3s then done alr.
And for 292, probably they will go with 1 additional Euro V instead of Euro IV to kick out one of the Mk4 DMs.
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If TPY int were to undergo upgrade to accomodate WABS, several parking lots may be lost due to broadening and thus some svcs may have to go other int as new terminal points
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Originally posted by service_238:
157 163 can be declared WAB anytime. Probably not in demand yet. 73 238 i've said the reason up this page.
Berth just need ot be upgraded
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Originally posted by SinkTel:
Press release out:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/14_wab_svc.pdf
16, 30, 87, 101, 131, 175, 272, 273, 275, 282, 284, 285, 292 and 403
This is the first time I'd ever seen more than 10 bus services to be launched as WAB.
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Originally posted by SBS8730A:
If TPY int were to undergo upgrade to accomodate WABS, several parking lots may be lost due to broadening and thus some svcs may have to go other int as new terminal points
something like harbourfront now (for 65 80 & 855) boarding berth at the nearby bus stop
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Originally posted by bus555:
something like harbourfront now (for 65 80 & 855) boarding berth at the nearby bus stop
Luckily, 80 is WAB accessible.
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Saw 8333M on 403 today.Is it perm??
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Saw 8333M on 403 today.Is it perm??
They tend to deploy new WABs for the east side services on the Monday before the due date of the WAB status launch. It was the same for 354 last time. It's likely, or probably the BCs need the familiarisation before the actual permers are decided.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Spot on with 403!
Just need to see if AMDEP does anything with
their KUBs, there's 4 Euro IVs there including a certain 8342L
which flew over from BN and no perm yet. Unlikely they will take
out 3 SP KUBs from BNDEP to put into 292 and 403, and leave only 1
spare KUB in its fleet.175 just probably needs 5 Citaros to clear those 5 JB Mk3s then done alr.
And for 292, probably they will go with 1 additional Euro V instead of Euro IV to kick out one of the Mk4 DMs.
Would it be possible 81 "donate" its euro V and take in MK4 for the distribution? But u're right as in AMDEP is having loads of SP free to send back bedok.
Wat i'm worried is 87, now it's sundays is like using mk4 from 100, 156 plus 931P and maybe some wrights. Next time weekends if it become a "clone" of 27 fleet, siao liao
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Originally posted by bus555:
something like harbourfront now (for 65 80 & 855) boarding berth at the nearby bus stop
harbourfront can board liao uncle
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Originally posted by Spanish hog:
Would it be possible 81 "donate" its euro V and take in MK4 for the distribution? But u're right as in AMDEP is having loads of SP free to send back bedok.
Wat i'm worried is 87, now it's sundays is like using mk4 from 100, 156 plus 931P and maybe some wrights. Next time weekends if it become a "clone" of 27 fleet, siao liao
For 81, they are only missing 3 WAB DDs to hit the min quota. 81 has very heavy pax loads during the peak hours. And now after Nex mall opened, the load is practically always there for people looking to get back to the East faster than 109 would take. That was why when 8581M & 8582K left 81 back then to go to 29, 81 got back 2614S & 2633L instead, not 2 other KUBs as replacements. So imo, 81 is waiting for new Wrights to be deployed. There's no way any more WAB SDs can go into 81 as replacements, because of the heavy loads during peak hours. Nor do i think they will give out any spare Euro Vs for now, since the Wrights in BNDEP seem to be going nowhere, and there's no new Citaros.
But another service possible to give out their KUBs from BN is Service 3. They are actually running 2 excess KUBs above the min quota, and somehow the lone Euro IV 8220E is still there while its siblings have all gone elsewhere to do feeder services. (8213B, 8223Y with 228 now). But just guesses anyway.
For 87, i think they might actually just run more Wrights than what they do now on weekends, then the rest they run a mix of KUBs & Mk4s. Possibly reduce the freq to compensate for more DDs instead.
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8581 8582 went to 29 from 81 was due to 29 becoming WAB.Originally posted by SBS 9631X:For 81, they are only missing 3 WAB DDs to hit the min quota. 81 has very heavy pax loads during the peak hours. And now after Nex mall opened, the load is practically always there for people looking to get back to the East faster than 109 would take. That was why when 8581M & 8582K left 81 back then to go to 29, 81 got back 2614S & 2633L instead, not 2 other KUBs as replacements. So imo, 81 is waiting for new Wrights to be deployed. There's no way any more WAB SDs can go into 81 as replacements, because of the heavy loads during peak hours. Nor do i think they will give out any spare Euro Vs for now, since the Wrights in BNDEP seem to be going nowhere, and there's no new Citaros.
But another service possible to give out their KUBs from BN is Service 3. They are actually running 2 excess KUBs above the min quota, and somehow the lone Euro IV 8220E is still there while its siblings have all gone elsewhere to do feeder services. (8213B with 228, 8214Z with 293). But just guesses anyway.
For 87, i think they might actually just run more Wrights than what they do now on weekends, then the rest they run a mix of KUBs & Mk4s. Possibly reduce the freq to compensate for more DDs instead.
last time before 2 & 80 were WAB-ed all sorts of single decks are on the service on Sundays. so for 87... you should know the pattern. -
Originally posted by jayh272416:
harbourfront can board liao uncle
ok ps didnt went to harbourfront for v long
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Originally posted by service_238:
8581 8582 went to 29 from 81 was due to 29 becoming WAB.
last time before 2 & 80 were WAB-ed all sorts of single decks are on the service on Sundays. so for 87... you should know the pattern.Yeaps the 29 part was true, but undoubtedly BN could have given back 81 2 KUBs as replacements from its spare fleet (iirc there was some). But they gave back 2 Striders which had obviously more seats (and they deploy those Striders right in the time period where the heaviest loads of 81 would be towards Tamp & Serangoon for peak hours). The loads from Tampines in the morning is really heavy, sometimes 2 Euro Vs bunch together also can't transport everyone.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
This is the first time I'd ever seen more than 10 bus services to be launched as WAB.
Because SBST bought many new WAB buses recently and half of the services going WAB this round are feeder services. -
Originally posted by vicamour:
Because SBST bought many new WAB buses recently and half of the services going WAB this round are feeder services.Right. With 1,101 K230UBs, 649 B9TLs, 300 Citaros and several demonstrators introduced between 2007 and 2010 on hand, SBS Transit can make more bus services WAB.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Because SBST bought many new WAB buses recently and half of the services going WAB this round are feeder services.Yeaps, the small number of permers on the feeder services is exactly why they were able to launch that many WAB services this time. The number of WABs they need for each service to hit the quota is significantly lower to put all those 6 BBDEP feeder services WAB status, compared to let's say the no. of buses they need for a single service like 16 or even 87 to make them WAB.
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that's almost 65% of its fleet!Originally posted by Gus.chong:Right. With 1,101 K230UBs, 649 B9TLs, 300 Citaros and several demonstrators introduced between 2007 and 2010 on hand, SBS Transit can make more bus services WAB.