SBST Volvo B9TL Wright (Part 2)

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 20:45

  HGDEP's deployment of DDs is puzzling.

  As I pointed out time and again, those token DD deployments on 151, 163, and now 43 can be put to better use elsewhere.

• SMB128B

  3 Jan 12, 20:46

  Originally posted by Acx1688:

  DDs are 1st time deployed on sv43 but it is a waste as there is duplication after YCK Rd when sv76 is in...
  The reason sv43 was thrown in is due to its weird frequency of smetimes mre than 15mins esp on weekends/PHs but DDs on 43 is a waste of resources...
  
  ACx

  That's what I think so too. Otherwise I don't see why SBS even bothered to deploy Citaros on 43.

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 20:46

  Originally posted by SBST163:

  howcome HGDEP suddenly so nice to 43 ahh..

  anyway just asking, is 43 a very popular bus service? because everytime i see 43 the bus is always at most 3/4 full.. so giving Wrights to it is.. i dunno. 

   

  43 is better known for high speed cruising past bus-stops.

  And when you consider its destination to be Punggol....I think you have the answer.

• sbst275

  3 Jan 12, 21:07

  43's problem is mostly the YCK/ S'goon New Town corridor...

  Not too sure abt Marine Parade tat side

• Acx1688

  3 Jan 12, 21:14

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  43's problem is mostly the YCK/ S'goon New Town corridor...

  Not too sure abt Marine Parade tat side

  Marine Parade side has low demand... pple board it to get from Upp East Coast to get to Parkway Parade since 48 is amended...[vice versa]
  A citaro looks full coz it;s capacity is lesser...
  Furthermore with freq at 17 - 18mins of coz it is 3/4 full for citaro but slightly more than half full for Strider/MK IV.DM3500
  DDs on sv43 CAN use VO3X like 9206R,9222T or others...
  The WEGs can give to students who use 74,147, 151[down trip]
  
  ACx

• sbst275

  3 Jan 12, 21:16

  Originally posted by Acx1688:

  Marine Parade side has low demand... pple board it to get from Upp East Coast to get to Parkway Parade since 48 is amended...[vice versa]
  A citaro looks full coz it;s capacity is lesser...
  Furthermore with freq at 17 - 18mins of coz it is 3/4 full for citaro but slightly more than half full for Strider/MK IV.DM3500
  DDs on sv43 CAN use VO3X like 9206R,9222T or others...
  The WEGs can give to students who use 74,147, 151[down trip]
  
  ACx

  
  *ahem*

  WAB quota..

• Acx1688

  3 Jan 12, 21:26

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  *ahem*

  WAB quota..

  ah sv13,55 is WAB service but no CDGE B9. WEGs
  so y muz sv43 be so special?!
  
  ACx

• sbst275

  3 Jan 12, 21:27

  Originally posted by Acx1688:

  ah sv13,55 is WAB service but no CDGE B9. WEGs
  so y muz sv43 be so special?!
  
  ACx

  
  They've the mass of KUBs to tong

• SBS7557R

  3 Jan 12, 21:31

  SBS Transit Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2)

  Quantity
  Batch 1: 150 / 150
  Batch 2A: 30 / 30
  Batch 2B: 35 / 270

  Bus Services plied (as of 03 Jan 2012):
  2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10e, 12, 14, 17, 19, 21, 22, 25, 28, 30, 43, 51, 59, 60, 62, 64, 65, 69, 70, 74, 80, 87, 89, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 133, 136, 143, 147, 151, 154, 157, 163, 165, 166, 168, 174, 179, 181, 183, 185, 196, 197, 198, 240, 241, 285, 502, 533, 534, 543, 545, 549, 550, 554, 556, 585

  Buses registered (as of 03 Jan 2012):

  Batch 1
  > SBS7500D (BRBP SP)
  > SBS7501B (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7502Z (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7503X (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7505R (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7506M (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7507K (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7508H (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7509E (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7510A (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7511Y (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7512U (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7513S (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7515L (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7516J (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7517G (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7518D (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7519B (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7520X (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7521T (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7522R (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7523M (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7525H (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7526E (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7527C (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7528A (SLBP 51/533)
  > SBS7529Y (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7530S (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7531P (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7532L (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7533J (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7535D (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7536B (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7537Z (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7538X (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7539T (SLBP 241)
  > SBS7550J (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7551G (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7552D (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7553B (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7555X (SLBP 241)
  > SBS7556T (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7557R (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7558M (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7559K (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7560E (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7561C (BNDEP 17)
  > SBS7562A (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7563Y (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7565S (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7566P (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7567L (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7568J (SLBP 197)
  > SBS7569G (BNDEP 17)
  > SBS7570B (BNDEP 17)
  > SBS7571Z (SLBP 154)
  > SBS7572X (SLBP 185)
  > SBS7573T (BNDEP 17)
  > SBS7575M (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7576K (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7577H (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7578E (BNDEP 197)
  > SBS7579C (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7580Y (BRBP 154)
  > SBS7581U (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7582S (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7583P (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7585J (BRBP 154)
  > SBS7586G (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7587D (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7588B (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7589Z (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7590T (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7591R (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7592M (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7593K (SLBP 174)
  > SBS7595E (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7596C (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7597A (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7598Y (BNDEP 197)
  > SBS7599U (BNDEP 197)
  > SBS7600Z (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7601X (BRBP 60)
  > SBS7602T (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7603R (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7605K (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7606H (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7607E (BBDEP 165/285)
  > SBS7608C (BRBP 154)
  > SBS7609A (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7610U (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7611S (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7612P (SLBP 30)
  > SBS7613L (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7615G (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7616D (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7617B (BNDEP 17)
  > SBS7618Z (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7619X (SLBP 51)
  > SBS7620R (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7621M (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7622K (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7623H (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7625C (BBDEP 99/556)
  > SBS7626A (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7627Y (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7628U (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7629S (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7630L (SLBP 154)
  > SBS7631J (SLBP 241)
  > SBS7632G (HGDEP 165)
  > SBS7633D (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7635Z (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7636X (ARBP 95)
  > SBS7637T (HGDEP 165/557)
  > SBS7638R (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7639M (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7650D (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7651B (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7652Z (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7653X (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7655R (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7656M (BNDEP 19)
  > SBS7657K (HGDEP 87/545)
  > SBS7658H (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7659E (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7660A (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7661Y (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7662U (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7663S (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7665L (BNDEP 5)
  > SBS7666J (BNDEP 168)
  > SBS7667G (AMDEP 168)
  > SBS7668D (AMDEP 22)
  > SBS7669B (AMDEP 70)
  > SBS7670X (AMDEP 70)
  > SBS7671T (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7672R (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7673M (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS7675H (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS7676E (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7677C (AMDEP 133)
  > SBS7678A (AMDEP 133)
  > SBS7679Y (BBDEP 165)
  > SBS7680S (BNDEP 10)
  > SBS7681P (BNDEP 197)
  > SBS7682L (BBDEP 198)
  > SBS7683J (BBDEP 198/543)
  > SBS7685D (SLBP 154)
  > SBS7686B (HGDEP 165)

  Batch 2A
  > SBS7700T (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7701R (SLBP 183)
  > SBS7702M (SLBP 183)
  > SBS7703K (SLBP 183)
  > SBS7704H (SLBP 183)
  > SBS7705E (SLBP 143)
  > SBS7706C (HGDEP 51)
  > SBS7707A (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS7708Y (HGDEP 62)
  > SBS7709U (HGDEP 87)
  > SBS7710P (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS7711L (AMDEP 133)
  > SBS7712J (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS7713G (AMDEP 133)
  > SBS7714D (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7715B (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS7716Z (BBDEP 99)
  > SBS7717X (AMDEP 70)
  > SBS7718T (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7719R (AMDEP 70/549)
  > SBS7720K (AMDEP 70)
  > SBS7721H (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7722E (BRBP 154)
  > SBS7723C (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7724A (AMDEP 59)
  > SBS7725Y (BNDEP 30)
  > SBS7726U (SLBP SP)
  > SBS7727S
  > SBS7728P (SLBP SP)
  > SBS7729L

  Batch 2B
  > SBS3000G (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3001D (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3002B (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3003Z (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3004X (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3005T (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3006R (BNDEP 168)
  > SBS3007M (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3008K (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3009H (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3010C (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3011A
  > SBS3012Y (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3013U (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3014S (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3015P (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3016L (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3017J (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS3018G (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS3019D (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3020Z
  > SBS3021X (SLBP SP)
  > SBS3022T (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3023R (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS3024M (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3025K (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS3026H
  > SBS3027E
  > SBS3028C
  > SBS3029A (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3030U
  > SBS3031S (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3032P
  > SBS3033L
  > SBS3269Z (SLBP SP)

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 21:40

  Originally posted by Acx1688:

  Marine Parade side has low demand... pple board it to get from Upp East Coast to get to Parkway Parade since 48 is amended...[vice versa]
  A citaro looks full coz it;s capacity is lesser...
  Furthermore with freq at 17 - 18mins of coz it is 3/4 full for citaro but slightly more than half full for Strider/MK IV.DM3500
  DDs on sv43 CAN use VO3X like 9206R,9222T or others...
  The WEGs can give to students who use 74,147, 151[down trip]
  
  ACx

  Frankly, 151 doesn't need the DDs. Despite the number of people of taking 151, it still does not see the kind of demand 74 and 147 sees. Even peak hours can be coped especially since 151's frequency has improved currently.

  But hey, I shouldn't be protesting since I know that a B9TL leaves Kent Ridge every weekday afternoon at around 1535 (a very weirdass timing since unless a student RUNS form FASS to Central Library stop at end of lesson at 1535, he/she won't be able to make it), and its ALWAYS half-empty.

  I get to kiao-kar, put my barang barang on the adjacent seat, sigh a contented sigh, and say: THIS IS LIFE.

  

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 21:42

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  43's problem is mostly the YCK/ S'goon New Town corridor...

  Not too sure abt Marine Parade tat side

  Not that many people take this bus at that sector. That's despite a 15 min frequency.

  Giving 43 a DD is a blatant waste of resources unless they have too many DDs to go around.

  But I just saw 2672Z on 74 today, so there. You have your answer (the astounding lack of)

• Acx1688

  3 Jan 12, 21:42

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  They've the mass of KUBs to tong

  Yah... even sunday full fleet scanias still can tahan the load...
  i took from PGL Temp int to Marine Parade Sunday
  There is no crowd till after IMH, when the bus reach SGN CTRL, most alite,,,
  Bus is full, less than 5 standees, was on a MK IV[DM/Strider] when i took...
  
  ACx

• sinicker

  3 Jan 12, 21:46

  since 43 has DDs & this means that Buangkok MRT busstop can have DDs, can SBST put DDs on their 27 splits doing 27A in AM peak & Tampines Hougang in the evening peak!?!

• sbst275

  3 Jan 12, 21:47

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  Not that many people take this bus at that sector. That's despite a 15 min frequency.

  Giving 43 a DD is a blatant waste of resources unless they have too many DDs to go around.

  But I just saw 2672Z on 74 today, so there. You have your answer (the astounding lack of)

  
  2672 is 74e's?

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 21:48

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  since 43 has DDs & this means that Buangkok MRT busstop can have DDs, can SBST put DDs on their 27 splits doing 27A in AM peak & Tampines Hougang in the evening peak!?!

  did anybody actually say Buangkok's stop can't take DDs???

  kinda reminds me of those who said YIH was stopping 95 from getting DDs.

• Acx1688

  3 Jan 12, 21:49

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  Frankly, 151 doesn't need the DDs. Despite the number of people of taking 151, it still does not see the kind of demand 74 and 147 sees. Even peak hours can be coped especially since 151's frequency has improved currently.

  But hey, I shouldn't be protesting since I know that a B9TL leaves Kent Ridge every weekday afternoon at around 1535 (a very weirdass timing since unless a student RUNS form FASS to Central Library stop at end of lesson at 1535, he/she won't be able to make it), and its ALWAYS half-empty.

  I get to kiao-kar, put my barang barang on the adjacent seat, sigh a contented sigh, and say: THIS IS LIFE.

  

  hahaha muz feedback liao...
  btw notice 151 DDs always running on other svcs namely 7, 196 kinda weird when pple have to squeeze like sardines on 74, 74e...
  totally illogical for so many SDs for sv74
  i have to admit even the extra 5 WEGs from BBDEP on sv14 is a waste where it can be better deployed to replace the BB SDs for sv74...
  SIGH
  
  ACx

• SBS2601D

  3 Jan 12, 21:52

  74 probably reigns as the most unglam service relative to load ever.

  Last cross-country PAC service (but much better frequency and full DD fleet), old ADD fleet, a hodge-podge of ageing SDs that can barely cope with the loads.

  Even 151 has moved on from its PAC days and graduated to WAB and DD fleet.

  Did 74 pax offend SBST?

• sinicker

  3 Jan 12, 21:53

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  did anybody actually say Buangkok's stop can't take DDs???

  kinda reminds me of those who said YIH was stopping 95 from getting DDs.

  someone did! well it did look deceptively lower to me.

• ^tamago^

  3 Jan 12, 22:12

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  did anybody actually say Buangkok's stop can't take DDs???

  kinda reminds me of those who said YIH was stopping 95 from getting DDs.

  
  

  It really did have a sign indicating a height restriction of 4.3 metres.

• lemon1974

  3 Jan 12, 23:33

  guess SBST have too much DDs' right now....that why more services are getting DDs..... seem like the citaros number have stopped at 150 for the time being and Wrights are been registered to replace the SDs instead....

• lemon1974

  3 Jan 12, 23:34

  Originally posted by ^tamago^:

   

  It really did have a sign indicating a height restriction of 4.3 metres.

  
  maybe the sign is misleading. haha.. if look at onemotoring website, most of the overhead bridge/flyover are more than 5.0m (instead of 4.5m as stated on the sign)....

• lemon1974

  3 Jan 12, 23:42

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  SBS Transit Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2)

  Quantity
  Batch 1: 150 / 150
  Batch 2A: 30 / 30
  Batch 2B: 35 / 270

  > SBS3028C (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3029A (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3031S (HGDEP SP)
  > SBS3269Z (SLBP SP)

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  SBS Transit Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2)

  Quantity:
  Batch 1: Fully delivered (150/150)
  Batch 2A: Fully delivered (30/30)
  Batch 2B: 35 / 270

  > SBS3028C
  > SBS3029A (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS3031S (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS3269Z (SLBP SP)

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  SBS Transit Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2)

  Quantity
  Batch 1: 150 / 150
  Batch 2A: 30 / 30
  Batch 2B: 35 / 270

  > SBS3028C
  > SBS3029A (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3031S (BNDEP SP)
  > SBS3269Z (SLBP SP)

   

  Can you make up your minds? HGDEP SP? AMDEP SP? BNDEP SP? just happily update? tomorrow will it become SLBP SP? or BBDEP SP for 3029/3031?

• sbst275

  4 Jan 12, 00:07

  Hopefully it'll mean more DDs for 74, 147, 196, 198 in time to come esp those adless SDs.

• SBS1869E

  4 Jan 12, 00:24

  Originally posted by Lsk138:

  Why not give some wright to 109 also !

  Haha I agree. The load can be sometimes too much for a SD to handle.

• SBS8676Z

  4 Jan 12, 00:36

  Originally posted by Acx1688:

  DDs are 1st time deployed on sv43 but it is a waste as there is duplication after YCK Rd when sv76 is in...
  The reason sv43 was thrown in is due to its weird frequency of smetimes mre than 15mins esp on weekends/PHs but DDs on 43 is a waste of resources...
  
  ACx

  
  Service 43 was introduced in Oct 2005 as a means to have a direct link from Punggol/Buangkok to Marine Parade areas.

  Not only 43 duplicates 76 (except the Serangoon MRT part), it also duplicates 70 from YCK Road to Paya Lebar MRT too.