Bus svcs with long waiting time& irregular headway adherence
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Originally posted by zero gravity:
852's frequency is HORRENDOUS. And during non-peak, you wait so long just to find that the bus is only half full.
Mind you feeders are not spared too. 945 somewhat affected because of some 'maximum 4 buses' rule. Frequency may more than double on some instances.
852 actually need to revised the running time.2 additional buses during weekday peak hours should do the tricks.12 buses,10 starter and 2 split.Once the 2 split go to break hell break loose minus the breakdown etc..945 can do with 4 buses provided 2 are bendies...
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147 running times are still acceptable leh,At least theres DD coming if you waited for more than 10 mins.Problem lies with BBDEP BCs they love to play pang,Other service run parrallel with them they purposely slow down and let the service overtake so they can siam some big crowd bus stops.They love to chiong on certain routes too.Sv 5 cannot blame either,Service still quite new and the routes is jam proned ones.167 always from BTM to SBW.
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I cannot find wat's e prob w/ 64
I dun think it's because of mainly it's looping nature.
Jln Besar, turning out to Queensway, Selegie Rd are like blackspots
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bus takes almost 25 min to come next bus
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SV 30.
Frequency is haywire all the round. Occasionally 17 next bus, sub 25.
Or, next 3 sub 25. Usually in AM off Peak, PM Peak, PM Off Peak.
SV 76.
Similar situation with SV30 as well.
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Originally posted by ahjack 77:
SV 30.
Frequency is haywire all the round. Occasionally 17 next bus, sub 25.
Or, next 3 sub 25. Usually in AM off Peak, PM Peak, PM Off Peak.
SV 76.
Similar situation with SV30 as well.
lucky thing abt Sv 30 is e 17 mins headways is removed alrdy. Else it would be worst30 can be well affected by HBF/ RWS traffic flow
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
43 is a complement service for sv76...
The route is mostly the same except for YCK portion...
add on to svc 48 between UEC - katong as well as 70 between paya lebar - buangkok green.. however disadvantage for PIWs for 43 over 70 is tat 70 is not a wab svci would say tat svc 43 freq sometimes can be up to 20-25 mins esp during weekday evening peak hrs, and 2 buses back-2-back arrive.. once spotted 5193U + 2630U arrive buangkok during evening peak
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sv 73 during evening peak (esp from TPY towards AMK) around 1845 to 1920hrs got to wait rather long. sometimes will end up with 2-3 buses bunching up along S'goon Gdn Circus. sv 315 & 317 also often spotted buses bunching up and upset sv freq. This is esp so for sv 315 (morning & evening peak), sv 317 (evening peak). The above-mentioned sv I ever experience up to 30min waiting. sometimes bus captains forgot to change destos too. For eg today morning, the BC of sv 315 (to Sgoon Int) forgot to change destos. With the White desto (to Sgoon Nth Ave 5), he proceeded from Sgoon Gdn Circus towards Int! Wonder who boarded the wrong bus! A couple of days ago, I spotted a BC of sv 317 forgot to change the EDS. With ">BERWICK DRIVE", the BC headed from Sgoon Gdn Circus towards Sgoon Int. Wonder who boarded from Sgoon Gdn Circus bus-stop intending to go inside the bungalows estate ended up heading towards the Int!
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315 been noticing uneven loading as well
There can be trips w/ standee from Int
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190, 960 and 961
246
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Originally posted by sbst275:
315 been noticing uneven loading as well
There can be trips w/ standee from Int
I think could be due to the traffic jams at and around Sgoon Gdn Circus area, esp the peak period and weekends evening/night. Pax from Nex can also cause uneven loading esp the time when many people are going there or going home from there and sometimes is really terrible. sv 109 loading is also upset due to this. -
yah S'goon Gardens Circus is the main problem affecting run time. Made worst is illegal parking at Chomp Chomp.
109 can cope but it takes time to clear e 60+ crowd
. Not too sure if they're heading to Pasir Ris, else can spruce up 58 a little -
Just realised, 307 also another fella. Twice i waited almost 40mins during peakhour. Came packed but luckily most pax alighted and i managed to get a seat, then packed to the brim again at the same stop WITHOUT even moving at Yew Tee(5 302 alr went past). But i really wonder why 307 can wait up to 40mins during peak hour for a feeder service. Worse than 922 and even need "Emergency Crew" to direct at opp Int towards teck whye direction.
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Needs huge improvements - 945, 190, 300, 852.
Worst is feeder service 945 need to wait 30~ 50 mins before can board because the buses arrive fully packed. Even 947 freq is better than 945. -
Still needs a lot of improvement on waiting time and irregularity. Waited for 45 mins, finally bus arrived but did not stopped, bus was full of passengers.
Keep increasing every year but no improvement on waiting time and irregularity.
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Originally posted by shanfan:
Still needs a lot of improvement on waiting time and irregularity. Waited for 45 mins, finally bus arrived but did not stop, bus was full of passengers.
Keep increasing every year but no improvement on waiting time and irregularity.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
315 been noticing uneven loading as well
There can be trips w/ standee from Int
Actually 315 should have Scania K230UBs so that it will not be overloaded but , HGDEP does not have spares. Look at 317! :( -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
852 actually need to revised the running time.2 additional buses during weekday peak hours should do the tricks.12 buses,10 starter and 2 split.Once the 2 split go to break hell break loose minus the breakdown etc..945 can do with 4 buses provided 2 are bendies...
So if 1 of 852 10 fleets is a bendy will it improve the situation? Would prefer split.
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105 is rather irregular if you take it on weekday afternoons at around Toa Payoh/Serangoon area. There was once I saw 3 buses coming at one short. Long wait times are common during this period too.
109 during PM peak is quite terrible. Packed to the brim. Quite uncomfortable sometimes.
(just my 2 cents) :D
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Originally posted by SBS1869E:
105 is rather irregular if you take it on weekday afternoons at around Toa Payoh/Serangoon area. There was once I saw 3 buses coming at one short. Long wait times are common during this period too.
109 during PM peak is quite terrible. Packed to the brim. Quite uncomfortable sometimes.
(just my 2 cents) :D
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
So if 1 of 852 10 fleets is a bendy will it improve the situation? Would prefer split.
Seriously 852 doesnt require bendies,Just add 1 more split shift and 1 full day bus is enough.851 also another thing during Weekends,More n more rigids deployed..853 2 split shift need to convert to full day.854 currently is okay but Sundays/PHs they suka2 kapo 5-6 bendies for other svc.980 need more buses during Weekdays peak,More bendies during Weekends.981 convert to loop svc better.Now Factory also got 0000-0900 timings leh.855 peak hour cmi.859 under AMDEP is better at least 3 perm bendies.171 need perm bendies during peak hours.61 another clown,The rigids cmi from BBT-SP.Ditto for bugis towards Eunos.Can kapo some bendies from feeders/Intratown what.I dun see the reason why they need full fleet bendies for Feeders/Intratowns?Just improve the timings is enough.SBST also never deploy full DDs for feeders.Townlink mah.190 too many split shift rest after 0900 and 1915 hrs.They forget that old folks take after AM peak to Chinatown and Orchard towards CCK during 2300-2330 hrs.700 another headache,Cash cow yet only 1 perm bendy.961 off peak is horrible.The problem is always come from WL side.Not enough Standy SL to drive certain blocks.Thus they always adjust the departure timings.AM side still okay,Mostly follow timings.
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recent observations
63, 66
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and bus 163 too
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Seriously 852 doesnt require bendies,Just add 1 more split shift and 1 full day bus is enough.
859 under AMDEP is better at least 3 perm bendies.
171 need perm bendies during peak hours.
961 off peak is horrible.The problem is always come from WL side.Thus they always adjust the departure timings.AM side still okay,Mostly follow timings.
For 852's case I can close 1 eyes, considering that AMDEP did major revamps for the fleet somewhere early this year, Even if the bus is late but if the fleet is decent I believe these students won't bother to ji jiao so much.
859 If there is a problem I believe AMDEP will take them back like what they did to 852 though, Now seems that AMDEP doesn't want to have 859 back so I don't see much of a problem.
171's case, ah, should have convert 1 rigid to bendy for both WL (YI) and YI (AMDEP), for which 1 full day 1 as split, but should not require more than 2.
961, WL, WL, WL, Oh my, WL (WR) group to be honest I don't see any improvements made, up till now. Keep giving problems with frequency and not serious with their deployments. 178 is one good example. AMDEP in general is much like SBST, lenient and willing to follow schedule, WL(SE,YI) I can close one eye, but WL(WR) isn't serious with their deployments, at all.
In general, personal feelings aside but I feel AMDEP (SMRT) is much like SBST, reason being they wasted no time in finding replacements and their frequency are much safer. WL(SE/YI) I don't have problems but WL(WR) still no improvements as of yet.
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Problems is AM side always kena bullied by both WL/KJ side.Once KJ had the best maintain buses of the two.Svc like 61,67,106,985 always KJ side give big problem by speeding to avoid crowded bus stops.WL side i see mostly from WRI itself,No cooperation at all.Former 965 AM side is an exceptional.They always maintain good relation with WL side,Ditto for 167,171 and 969.For 169,961 relationship always bad.