Pax standing on premium bus services
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
If I’m not wrong, Premium svcs are designed to cater to pax who are willing to pay more for a faster and direct journey and yet be able to get a seat. The creation of Premium svcs is also aimed to encourage more car owners give up driving to work and use public transport instead. Otherwise, if still got to stand, can we still persuade more car owners to give up their luxury for public transport? Its already difficult to simply persuade these people to use public transport.
I agree that it doesn’t make sense to strictly stop Premium pax from boarding once all the seats are filled. But if it happens too often or even serious, then something is wrong.
Alternatively, such overcrowded Premium svcs should be downgraded to Express svcs instead. Express svcs can still provide the same service as Premium svcs, except it costs lower than Premium but able to accept standing pax.I hope LTA doesn't force SBS Transit Limited's Premium svc to be downgauged to Express svcs. I want my sustained dividends...
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SBS has been getting better profits because they do things like proper scheduling
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fry, fare diff bet Premium is likely to be $1.30 - $1.40 per pax if we do not incl x-fer cases.
But a bus can carry say 20 - 25 more ppl?
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but then again
these ppl take Premium because they want e seats
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Originally posted by sbst275:
SBS has been getting better profits because they do things like proper scheduling
There is a thread about FY2010 results in this forum...
I did some calculations. Go there later to analyse and I need to x-check some info. -
Originally posted by dan474:
SBST is simply taking advantage of using the "premium" bus catergory. Why not they use the "Express" catergory, like 971E, which arrives at the city earlier than 555.
Hallo, there is services like Fast Forward 10e, 14e, 30e, 74e, 97e, 89e, 151e, 174e, adn 196e on top of 502, 506 and 518.I think SMRT is taking advantage more on using the Premium bus category, introducing useless services like 570.
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Ermm, correct me if im wrong but isnt the driver supposed to prevent people from getting on these Premium services when all seats are taken ?
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Originally posted by May-yuen:
Ermm, correct me if im wrong but isnt the driver supposed to prevent people from getting on these Premium services when all seats are taken ?
yes, black and white, you are correct nonetheless.
but, say you are that person... who already woke up 30mins later compared to taking the feeder service and then the MRT because you want to take the premium service... but now, the BC tells you that no, you can't board the bus.
now, will you oblige with the BC's instructions... or LLST, BC understands your plight and stand inside? because you cant be raking up $20+ in cab fare.. or take the feeder bus and train.. you'll be late for work...
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Hahahaha.. rite.. Haha, i've never taken these bus services so that was simply application of theory in my head. Crowd control can be a b**** , esp at 7am in the morning ..Haha. Actually why not just add more buses then ?
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Originally posted by May-yuen:
Hahahaha.. rite.. Haha, i’ve never taken these bus services so that was simply application of theory in my head. Crowd control can be a b** , esp at 7am in the morning ..Haha.
Actually why not just add more buses then ?
If there is need to add more buses, they will. Currently all buses and resources used for Premium services are buses and BCs used for trunk services, no dedicated buses and BCs just for these services.Resource is a major concern here, especially peak hours where more buses are needed to handle the crowds.
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Originally posted by dan474:
SBST is simply taking advantage of using the "premium" bus catergory. Why not they use the "Express" catergory, like 971E, which arrives at the city earlier than 555.
There are strict codes bet PBS & Express Sv.PBS can only serve a max of around 10 stops and they would have to head to destination.
I think SMRT is real expert, applied for some 60 PBS in total but none are implemented. Routes like to PSA Bldg.
Any case, the higher fare is alrdy supposed to make up for the loss in revenue w/o taking standee on pov of PTO
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
If I’m not wrong, Premium svcs are designed to cater to pax who are willing to pay more for a faster and direct journey and yet be able to get a seat. The creation of Premium svcs is also aimed to encourage more car owners give up driving to work and use public transport instead. Otherwise, if still got to stand, can we still persuade more car owners to give up their luxury for public transport? Its already difficult to simply persuade these people to use public transport.
I agree that it doesn’t make sense to strictly stop Premium pax from boarding once all the seats are filled. But if it happens too often or even serious, then something is wrong.
Alternatively, such overcrowded Premium svcs should be downgraded to Express svcs instead. Express svcs can still provide the same service as Premium svcs, except it costs lower than Premium but able to accept standing pax.TS, if the standees are not even making noise, your point is?!
Do note LTA will not penalise bus operator if there are one or two standees...
I see your concern about the standees on PBS so why not you raise it directly to LTA, bus operators so that they can take action?!
By lamenting the state of PBS in SG in this forum will not solve the crux of the problem if you are sincere in solving a matter.
ACx -
TS, fyi, some kind soul by the name 蔡顺庆 has written in zaobao 交�
优质巴士�务��优质了
story in brief: SMRT 590 has more passengers, SD convert to bendy but people still standing on Bendy, wants SMRT to deploy more Bendy on 590
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
TS, fyi, some kind soul by the name 蔡顺庆 has written in zaobao 交�
优质巴士�务��优质了
story in brief: SMRT 590 has more passengers, SD convert to bendy but people still standing on Bendy, wants SMRT to deploy more Bendy on 590
ACxlol!
at least ask for one bendy, one rigid lah. this one ask str8 two bendy. -
1 bendy can only carry like 13 more pax.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
1 bendy can only carry like 13 more pax.
Wah lau, so bad. Which bus got more seat, SBS DD or SMRT Bendy?
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Originally posted by phillipC:
Wah lau, so bad. Which bus got more seat, SBS DD or SMRT Bendy?
ADD has some 90 seats, bendy only 60.Older SD has abt 40 - 50 seats depending on config
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u see.. high prices also people take..all die die wanna siam MRT
with our trains all gettig more crowded n hence, lots of incidents lately..
but but... is our trains really so crowded? someone disagrees!
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Originally posted by 105090:
u see.. high prices also people take..all die die wanna siam MRT
with our trains all gettig more crowded n hence, lots of incidents lately..
but but... is our trains really so crowded? someone disagrees!She only cares for her annual compensation package - $ 1.67 million as quoted in the Money Section of ST 18 April 2011
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
TS, fyi, some kind soul by the name 蔡顺庆 has written in zaobao 交�
优质巴士�务��优质了
story in brief: SMRT 590 has more passengers, SD convert to bendy but people still standing on Bendy, wants SMRT to deploy more Bendy on 590
ACx
See one joker wrote again with comment on the above reader's letter saying the that it is inevitable for standing passengers on trains and buses. Adding more trip will only congest the road for the case of SMRT 190 . He seems do not understand the the requirement of PBS. -
Originally posted by Acx1688:
TS, if the standees are not even making noise, your point is?!
Do note LTA will not penalise bus operator if there are one or two standees...
I see your concern about the standees on PBS so why not you raise it directly to LTA, bus operators so that they can take action?!
By lamenting the state of PBS in SG in this forum will not solve the crux of the problem if you are sincere in solving a matter.
ACx
no offence; my intention of starting this topic is only to highlight the actual conditions of current PBS, to discuss about it among us bus fans, your views and also to relook into why PBS come into existence, its purpose, and the difference between Express and PBS. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
ADD has some 90 seats, bendy only 60.Older SD has abt 40 - 50 seats depending on config
Wrong type of bus being deployed could also lead to unproductivity and customer dissatisfaction. -
Originally posted by 105090:
u see.. high prices also people take..all die die wanna siam MRT
with our trains all gettig more crowded n hence, lots of incidents lately..
but but... is our trains really so crowded? someone disagrees!The way they run e train headways gave her a reason to say train not tat packed enough.
6 mins - 2 mins - 1 min freq. 1 min train sure kosong one
pull down avg loading factor
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Originally posted by phillipC:
See one joker wrote again with comment on the above reader's letter saying the that it is inevitable for standing passengers on trains and buses. Adding more trip will only congest the road for the case of SMRT 190 . He seems do not understand the the requirement of PBS.
Some ppl dunno wat's No Standee on PBS -
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Wrong type of bus being deployed could also lead to unproductivity and customer dissatisfaction.There is only a limited number of buses that can be deployed w/o affecting the main trunk service
ACx