Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Actually, not many VO2x on the city services also, since there were also many non aircon double deckers that time. I only remembered 7, 10, 14, 65, 61, 190 using VO2xes when new.
Still remembered that a new VO2x crashed into a tree in 1995 on service 14 along Jalan Bukit Merah. The first and worst VO2x accident, but I forgot the rego.
w/ only 100 VO2x, it's a lot le. I remembered 132, 147 had it as well. -
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Actually, not many VO2x on the city services also, since there were also many non aircon double deckers that time. I only remembered 7, 10, 14, 65, 61, 190 using VO2xes when new.
Still remembered that a new VO2x crashed into a tree in 1995 on service 14 along Jalan Bukit Merah. The first and worst VO2x accident, but I forgot the rego.
Ya, that was one of the more serious accident during the chain of accidents involving SBS buses in the 1990s. Then SBS was so concerned about this chain of accidents that they called engineers from Mercedes Benz, Volvo and Scania to have a thorough checks on all their buses and install more safety features as well to enhance the safety standards of these buses. -
Post reposted on page 5.
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When is the year where SBS1430L - SBS1529L were manufactured & de-registered and what models are they?
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
18??? I think that was in the early years of their services.Think before SBS became SBST in 2001, only a handful of services like 74, 93, 154, some feeder services and JIS services used the VO2xes.
Yeah.Unfortunately the VO2X did not last long on 18. And I dont think 18 had any DDs since.
Think it was soon after that, the MKIV Artic was introduced to SG, and on 18.
And that was the only perm service I believe, it served, before it was sold.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Yeah.Unfortunately the VO2X did not last long on 18. And I dont think 18 had any DDs since.
Think it was soon after that, the MKIV Artic was introduced to SG, and on 18.
And that was the only perm service I believe, it served, before it was sold.
The Volvo B10M artic actually served service 290 before. Think is when the SBST Mercedes Benz O405G was transferred from service 195 to Bedok depot, then it went back to 18, together with the O405G.
I actually have fond memories of the Duple Metsec Leyland Atlanteans serving 18 in the 1990s.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
The Volvo B10M artic actually served service 290 before. Think is when the SBST Mercedes Benz O405G was transferred from service 195 to Bedok depot, then it went back to 18, together with the O405G.I actually have fond memories of the Duple Metsec Leyland Atlanteans serving 18 in the 1990s.
Ah yes.290.
Forgot about that.
The mid to late 90s and early 2000s was an exciting time for buses. A lot of demos that were demonstrating an astonishing first.
Superlong, Bendy, the low-floor citybuses (1688 and 2888 and 9888 with 20 trident orders), gassies.
Think the MKIV DM3500 deserves some mention for occasionally displaying its kneeling function also. Some units still retain the active suspension adjusting.
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18 used to be e main bus service for Tampines until other buses came along... It's something like Sv 98
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Ah yes.290.
Forgot about that.
The mid to late 90s and early 2000s was an exciting time for buses. A lot of demos that were demonstrating an astonishing first.
Superlong, Bendy, the low-floor citybuses (1688 and 2888 and 9888 with 20 trident orders), gassies
tat was e era when DD fleet was at e peak...
with just a population of only 3.2m
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Ah yes.290.
Forgot about that.
The mid to late 90s and early 2000s was an exciting time for buses. A lot of demos that were demonstrating an astonishing first.
Superlong, Bendy, the low-floor citybuses (1688 and 2888 and 9888 with 20 trident orders), gassies.
Think the MKIV DM3500 deserves some mention for occasionally displaying its kneeling function also. Some units still retain the active suspension adjusting.
I feel that 1970s and 1980s are more of the exciting times. That era alone has around 30 demo buses, a wide range of brands from UK to Germany to Sweden to Japan (and even French buses), plus introduction of air con buses and double deckers, and lower step buses like the double deckers, Leyland Lynx. -
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
I feel that 1970s and 1980s are more of the exciting times. That era alone has around 30 demo buses, a wide range of brands from UK to Germany to Sweden to Japan (and even French buses), plus introduction of air con buses and double deckers, and lower step buses like the double deckers, Leyland Lynx.
tat time SBS was at e golden eraSBS started e magnetic farecard system on trial in 1985, way before MRT came.
It was in 1979 w/ a Swedish industrial loan that Volvo & later on Scania dominated SBS's fleet.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
tat time SBS was at e golden eraSBS started e magnetic farecard system on trial in 1985, way before MRT came.
It was in 1979 w/ a Swedish industrial loan that Volvo & later on Scania dominated SBS's fleet.
Volvo, then Scania. But the Swedish industrial loan still valid today, as in 2008 Scania purchases and 2000s Volvo purchases???
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Volvo, then Scania. But the Swedish industrial loan still valid today, as in 2008 Scania purchases and 2000s Volvo purchases???
good partnership wun end once it starts.Furthermore e order for Tridents wasn't good, it took 3 yrs just for e buses to arrive cos the ang moh concentrated on HK's order.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
good partnership wun end once it starts.Furthermore e order for Tridents wasn't good, it took 3 yrs just for e buses to arrive cos the ang moh concentrated on HK's order.
Hong Kong ordered more Tridents that time, so they have to concentrate on the big orders first.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Hong Kong ordered more Tridents that time, so they have to concentrate on the big orders first.
but e experience makes it a turn off also.Sometimes your 1st order experience makes partnerships make or break.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
but e experience makes it a turn off also.Sometimes your 1st order experience makes partnerships make or break.
I still hope that SBST will buy from Alexander Dennis in future. And hope that Germany government will also give SBST an industrial loan so that SBST can buy Mercedes Benz and MAN buses in future.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
I still hope that SBST will buy from Alexander Dennis in future. And hope that Germany government will also give SBST an industrial loan so that SBST can buy Mercedes Benz and MAN buses in future.
fat hopeIndustrial loan is only given to developing countries
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
I still hope that SBST will buy from Alexander Dennis in future. And hope that Germany government will also give SBST an industrial loan so that SBST can buy Mercedes Benz and MAN buses in future.
Personally I'm not into the Tridents.The suspension is too soft, the aircon is barely there and in general the mainteinance is found wanting.
The way many Trident BCs drive is testimony to how little confidence they have in this bus. 2/3 of the rides will involve the BC lifting their foots on the pedal intermittently as they move. Its likely due to the combination of the Trident bouncing and its pretty neat acceleration that's causing this.
You ask me to recommend Trident rides, and I would say sv89 is more likely to give you a decent ride although there's no guarantee of that.
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Speak of nostalgia, I also missed the flaps that could be closed in many SBST bus AC outlets (the circular ones).
The one where you twist the knob in the centre and the flaps close.
Works the same way as the MKIV squarish types, which I like also.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Ah yes.290.
Forgot about that.
The mid to late 90s and early 2000s was an exciting time for buses. A lot of demos that were demonstrating an astonishing first.
Superlong, Bendy, the low-floor citybuses (1688 and 2888 and 9888 with 20 trident orders), gassies.
Think the MKIV DM3500 deserves some mention for occasionally displaying its kneeling function also. Some units still retain the active suspension adjusting.
When is service 290 introduced & withdrawn and what is its route?
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Why isn't anyone replying to my questions since I posted them?
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Originally posted by SBS7440T:
When is the year where SBS6776G - SBS6975Z were manufactured and de-registered and what models are they?
SBS6776G to SBS6789U were Mercedes Benz OF1413s with Duple Metsec bodies, registered in 1978/1979, all withdrawn by the early 1990s.
SBS6790P was the Volvo B57 demo with Duple Metsec body, registered in 1979, withdrawn in the early 1990s.
SBS6791L was the Leyland Leopard PSU5C/2R demo with Alexander body, registered in 1979, believed to be in Singapore for 1 year trial before returning to UK.
SBS6792J to SBS6819S were Leyland Atlanteans with a mix of Alexander Type L and Duple Metsec bodies all registered in 1980, withdrawn by 1993/1994.
SBS6820L was the Leyland National 2 using Leyland integral bodyworks. Believed to be the first air con bus since SBS formation, it was registered in 1983 but returned to Leyland after a year trial.
SBS6821J to SBS6834Y were Leyland Atlanteans with Alexander Type L bodies, all registered in 1982, withdrawn by 1994.
SBS6835U to SBS6906Z were Leyland Atlanteans with Alexander R Type bodies, registered in 1984/1985, deregistered by 2001.
SBS6907X to SBS6975Z were Leyland Olympian 2xes with Alexander R Type bodies, registered in 1987/1988, withdrawn by 2001.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
When is the year where SBS1430L - SBS1529L were manufactured & de-registered and what models are they?
SBS1430L to SBS1433D were Albion Viking EVK55CUL with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1976, and all pharsed out by 1990.
SBS1434B to SBS1502M were Albion Viking EVK55CL with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1976 to 1978, and all pharsed out by 1990.
SBS1503 to SBS1516Z were Mercedes Benz OF1413s with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1978/1979, deregistered by the early 1990s.
SBS1517X was a Isuzu BDTIZCHSS demo with unknown bodywork, it was registered in 1979. Believed to be returned to Isuzu after a year trial.
SBS1518T was a Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Hawke body, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
SBS1519R to SBS1524A were Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
SBS1525Y to SBS1529L were Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Hawke bodies, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
SBS1430L to SBS1433D were Albion Viking EVK55CUL with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1976, and all pharsed out by 1990.
SBS1434B to SBS1502M were Albion Viking EVK55CL with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1976 to 1978, and all pharsed out by 1990.
SBS1503K to SBS1516Z were Mercedes Benz OF1413s with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1978/1979, deregistered by the early 1990s.
SBS1517X was a Isuzu BDTIZCHSS demo with unknown bodywork, it was registered in 1979. Believed to be returned to Isuzu after a year trial.
SBS1518T was a Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Hawke body, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
SBS1519R to SBS1524A were Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Soon Chow bodies, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
SBS1525Y to SBS1529L were Mercedes Benz OF1417 with Hawke bodies, registered in 1980, deregistered by 1992.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
When is service 290 introduced & withdrawn and what is its route?
Service 290 was believed to be introduced in 1988 when Tampines interchange was built and merged with service 220 and withdrawn in 2003. It is also the only SBS feeder bus service to use bendy buses.
Its route: Tampines Int to Simei St 3 (Loop)
Tampines Int, Tampines Central 1, Tampines Ave 7, Tampines Ave 2, Simei Rd, Simei St 1, Simei St 3, Simei St 4, Simei Rd, Tampines Ave 2, Tampines Ave 7, Tampines Central 1, Tampines Int