Bus Observations (2011)
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Originally posted by sbst275:
wat do you mean by profits? 179 full route can be packed all the way (till South Spine in the morning). Tat's 6.3km.241 is only within N9 & Pioneer MRT, tat's 2km. That's why there's 241A. Seriously 2km such demand if it's in e past dun even gets any DDs.
Also I've mentioned to you many times never attempt to tell ppl profits. Where's your social responsibility to get everyone to school, to work n to play?
And facts will be facts. 179/ 179A contribute 20% to BNL's overall traffic volume. 20,000 out of 100,000 ppl per day. Even if I go on and add PNR station's volume of 65,000, not all goes to 241.
There's 179, 255, 257, NTU-D.
Whether the distance is short or long it doesn't matter. As long the demand is there, no of buses deployed means there are demand. They will do the necessary reduction if there is a need to. From my observation, svc 241 also pick up loading along Pioneer Rd Nth and even Blk 649A itself in the morning.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Whether the distance is short or long it doesn't matter. As long the demand is there, no of buses deployed means there are demand. They will do the necessary reduction if there is a need to. From my observation, svc 241 also pick up loading along Pioneer Rd Nth and even Blk 649A itself in the morning.
It does matter for type of buses dispatched. Ever wondered why 96 does not get any ADD all these years? SBS has it's way of giving priority of ADD to long highly utilized tts. Imagine I provide mostly SD for 198 -
As for Pioneer Rd Nth, SBS's likely stance is there return leg of 179 which would be max 25% loaded.
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I think at this rate, very simple. Non aircon bus shoo to others even though ridership is way higher as long as it's not me.
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if i am SBST.......
overnight change of fleet for service 241. all MK4s. -
if i am SBST.......
Deploy full fleet of VO2x on Service 179 (might turn to profitable). For svc 241, full SD with MK4 + KUB fixed 5 mins headway.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
if i am SBST.......
Deploy full fleet of VO2x on Service 179 (might turn to profitable). For svc 241, full SD with MK4 + KUB fixed 5 mins headway.
Cos I've said abt e NAC bus part.I'll say tis abt you (not personal attack): To you, everything is profit. You dun even have social responsibility.
Running a omnibus company is not only abt profits, is how you allocate resources to cater to everyone and not lying down to politics.
If I use all VO2x, I'll face palm on the backlog. Currently using LO3x it's at Wendy's, use VO2x backlog to where? Temp Int?
Aircon bus interchange indeed
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Make profits, now bigger backlog
So next accuse PTOs of making excessive profits?
you helped one
To think of it, it's going to make 179 even more unprofitable as claimed. Because you've to dispatch more A/P Shifts to make up for capacity loss!
Dun forget 179 at 0930 - 1020 is 2 mins freq, current VO3x can't even handle
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Before there's any counter over empty buses seen on 179 at 0930 - 1020.. Simply those buses are forced to 'downroute' by timekeeper from 1st bus stop.
The queue is way too long and it's affecting 243G's dispatch
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Hoping to move on to observe bus ops at Sembawang soon.
Today's observation @ KRJ afternoon.
160 & 170 ops quite smooth on e ground (not iris for some trips). 170X quite kilat even during off peak hours.
178's headways issue still there even though there's no lorry formup and traffic was smooth.
CW1 pontien.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
if i am SBST.......
Deploy full fleet of VO2x on Service 179 (might turn to profitable). For svc 241, full SD with MK4 + KUB fixed 5 mins headway.
i'll get more $$ from NTU pax than from Street 91 pax & i wouldnt even substantiate my claim.
they put VO2x on 179 & LO3x/VO3x on 179A to motivate ppl take 179A but in all honesty, no one's taking 179A unless they're taking the bus out from Boon Lay home....
Why are the Street 91 residents so important? Tampines Street 32/33 residents don't make so much noise despite 10+min freq, 20-min to home from int trips & bunching on 291. -
Originally posted by sinicker:
i'll get more $$ from NTU pax than from Street 91 pax & i wouldnt even substantiate my claim.
they put VO2x on 179 & LO3x/VO3x on 179A to motivate ppl take 179A but in all honesty, no one's taking 179A unless they're taking the bus out from Boon Lay home....
Why are the Street 91 residents so important? Tampines Street 32/33 residents don't make so much noise despite 10+min freq, 20-min to home from int trips & bunching on 291.
Actually wat I noticed is South Spine ppl are forced to take tat downroute 179A. Else hard to board 179 one. -
CW1 does indeed loop at JB CIQ.
While queueing saw a CW1 bus u-turning back to Departure boarding area.
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SMB51M has it's back EDS placed back on.
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SMB41S (KJDEP/CCDEP 307) has a unique type of "Bus Stopping" in the middle of the bus, which closely resembles those found in box bendies and SBST Dennis Tridents.
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dunno is it been going on for some time
Sv 99...
By the time the buses arrives River Valley High towards N9, there's brunching and headway gap of 19 mins.
But the ADDs are some 40% filled on upper deck, everyone just squeeze on lower deck.
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saw Molly, the mobile library bus travelling along PIE (Changi) near Adam Rd this morning at 9am
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187 recently gets OC cameos nowadays, at least 1 would be running on S Split slot.
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has anyone seen TIB1095C recently?
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Only, saying, this info may b outdated, sry, spotted mk4 soon chow at a heavy vehicles park, at tampines rd aft payar lebar airbase. I did write down the rego, now can't find it. It has DBS ad on it.
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Originally posted by The Kiwi Bus Fan:
Only, saying, this info may b outdated, sry, spotted mk4 soon chow at a heavy vehicles park, at tampines rd aft payar lebar airbase. I did write down the rego, now can't find it. It has DBS ad on it.
Definitely not SBS.Either PA4686A,4689S or 4691J. P.S. 4686A has a 4-piece windshield. -
Originally posted by zero gravity:
Definitely not SBS.Either PA4686A,4689S or 4691J. P.S. 4686A has a 4-piece windshield.d oni thing i saw was the rear and rear-quarter. thx
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Today,SMB137A seen at Bukit Batok Int.Front EDS displayed 'OFF SERVICE' but side and rear showed '001'.Proceeded to leave interchange to go who knows where.
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Originally posted by zero gravity:
Today,SMB137A seen at Bukit Batok Int.Front EDS displayed 'OFF SERVICE' but side and rear showed '001'.Proceeded to leave interchange to go who knows where.
The whole rear EDS spoilt? I think it has the same problem as rear EDS of TIB838H, always stick on 'off service'
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SMB90A rear EDS is finally fixed...