Bus Observations (2011)
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Lambat 10 to 20mins normal de, especially during raining.
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SMB114 parking along road shoulder on PIE just outside the old Police Academy at 5.30pm... and another SMRT Merc spotted with EDS showing 608 bedok this morning on CTE...
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3x OCs on Sv851 stopped at traffic light along AMK Ave 6 (towards Yishun), one after another, at around 1.20pm this afternoon... can bunch up during this timing?
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Sunday saw a CRL parking at Upp Thomson Rd (Sin Ming Rd, towards CBD) bus stop. Not even breakdown de
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TIB849B on 964 this Monday had EDS problems and replaced with a desto. The EDS problem had been fixed when I boarded TIB849B just now.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Lol! Why isn't Scanias?
Scanias the last batch till 2014 only with majority to retired on 2012-13,Somemore need to install third brake light..When new buses kicks in i feel at least 18 OCs will be JB registered -
Originally posted by sbst275:
BNL Int AM peak
179 & 182 cannot be together one. Sv 179 BCs woud love to horn, horn, horn @ 182.
They must be thinking 182 low demand. But a MK4 can be filled to e entrance.
I think SBS should consider alternate downroute for 179 from Jurong West St 63. The 179A is alrdy meant to allow ppl downstream to be able to board 179. Let those students queue should they decide to queue for 179 on basis '179A too long'. Seriously how fast you're cleared on 179A
.Even I noticed it's becoming a problem. PM peak outbound NTU students lub to take 179 to Pioneer. Ends up those who really need 179 at South Spine are deprived a boarding chance.
Evening: 182, 243G, 179 VO2x queueing together.
243G's queue is confirmed to be longer than 181 during the 179's peak period.
Also seriously 241A overkill riao... Noticed a pattern of 5 buses. 3 ADD can take e load le. Even that lone KUB 241 full trip is only 40% loaded.
Should deploy more resources to improve 192 & 193's headways. Ends up 192 can have 14 mins headways during AM peak resulting in brunching along e way.
Sorry hor 3 ADD for 241A is counting for trouble. You try waiting for it around 6.30 to 6.50am i tell you 2 241A ADD come all full included upstairs. And The kub are full to the doors. You never live there so you dun anyhow say the load. I report to camp every morning and i took 241A i can see the load better then you.
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As if other bus services not as packed as 241. Is 241's demand is 179 during the peak within peak? If want to compare, give me ultra long queue of 600 ppl waiting for 241 at any time.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Suspect next year 950 will be full OCs…
Hmm, i do have a differing view is that the OCs are still going to be used to supplement WAB routes, and they are still relatively new. There isn't indication that 950 is going to turn WAB anytime soon too
I believe that a likely case might be TIB798P -TIB832Z be redeployed, but the lifespan is reaching soon too.
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Originally posted by Kira™:
Sorry hor 3 ADD for 241A is counting for trouble. You try waiting for it around 6.30 to 6.50am i tell you 2 241A ADD come all full included upstairs. And The kub are full to the doors. You never live there so you dun anyhow say the load. I report to camp every morning and i took 241A i can see the load better then you.
Even 7+am some of the load can be pack till the front door even for DD
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Originally posted by sbst275:
As if other bus services not as packed as 241. Is 241’s demand is 179 during the peak within peak?
If want to compare, give me ultra long queue of 600 ppl waiting for 241 at any time.
179 (Many bus, Many pax but low profit) VS 241 (Many bus, Many pax but high profit) -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
179 (Many bus, Many pax but low profit) VS 241 (Many bus, Many pax but high profit)
wat do you mean by profits? 179 full route can be packed all the way (till South Spine in the morning). Tat's 6.3km.241 is only within N9 & Pioneer MRT, tat's 2km. That's why there's 241A. Seriously 2km such demand if it's in e past dun even gets any DDs.
Also I've mentioned to you many times never attempt to tell ppl profits. Where's your social responsibility to get everyone to school, to work n to play?
And facts will be facts. 179/ 179A contribute 20% to BNL's overall traffic volume. 20,000 out of 100,000 ppl per day. Even if I go on and add PNR station's volume of 65,000, not all goes to 241.
There's 179, 255, 257, NTU-D.
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Originally posted by Kira™:
Sorry hor 3 ADD for 241A is counting for trouble. You try waiting for it around 6.30 to 6.50am i tell you 2 241A ADD come all full included upstairs. And The kub are full to the doors. You never live there so you dun anyhow say the load. I report to camp every morning and i took 241A i can see the load better then you.
Also do you want me to take photo at Pioneer Rd Nth of an upper deck empty 241 VO3x into N9 vs a packed VO2x from NTU of 179A?
If you're saying I'm courting for trouble, try telling it to the JIS crowd as well.
Seems you do not even realise how do I even know of 179 downroute if I do not know e 241 situation.
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Same goes to why SBS still has to deploy 54 buses for cross border svs.. U believe it's profitable on 170X during PM peak considering avg fares and the run time?
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This morning
179 on Sat schedule, hence bo 179A on ops.. BC kpkb bus lambat like siao as there's mostly 5 A/ 5 P dispatched.
Some 200+ ppl queueing at BNL.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
This morning
179 on Sat schedule, hence bo 179A on ops.. BC kpkb bus lambat like siao as there's mostly 5 A/ 5 P dispatched.
Some 200+ ppl queueing at BNL.
siao they dont even know CNY Eve still got people going to school -
Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
siao they dont even know CNY Eve still got people going to school
forgot all abt 179A when planning all e FFW, JIS schedules?
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Sv 177 was on ops tis afternoon
1150 - 1320 from BBT.
SMRT staff just pasted paper notice at the queueing berth.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Also do you want me to take photo at Pioneer Rd Nth of an upper deck empty 241 VO3x into N9 vs a packed VO2x from NTU of 179A?
If you're saying I'm courting for trouble, try telling it to the JIS crowd as well.
Seems you do not even realise how do I even know of 179 downroute if I do not know e 241 situation.
You do realise that 241 also need the DDs. the way you are saying is that 241 dose not need any DDs. Try living a day in Jurong west and you will know my meaning. Yes 179 is a high demand service but only cater to those Uni Student while 241 serve as a resident feeder. Alot of people went to work daily and that why DDs are needed. If you can find a way to not let resident work then i got nothing much to say about taking the DDs away. THINK about it. What about those student? 241 cater to 2 primary school and a secondary. Just that alone that can fill those buses to full. If you want to compare to 179. They had alot buses running around during morning peak and it like 2 to 3 at 1 time. Not all are full also.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Also do you want me to take photo at Pioneer Rd Nth of an upper deck empty 241 VO3x into N9 vs a packed VO2x from NTU of 179A?
If you're saying I'm courting for trouble, try telling it to the JIS crowd as well.
Seems you do not even realise how do I even know of 179 downroute if I do not know e 241 situation.
Empty? After which stop? I dun see empty Buses from Pioneer mrt all the way to Jurong West and back to Pioneer During morning peak period. If 241 is empty what about 179? One shot come 3 to 4 and only the first 2 are filled the last 2 are practically empty also. I can also take picture of it and show you. Please understand the stituation before you start a topic.
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Originally posted by Kira™:
You do realise that 241 also need the DDs. the way you are saying is that 241 dose not need any DDs. Try living a day in Jurong west and you will know my meaning. Yes 179 is a high demand service but only cater to those Uni Student while 241 serve as a resident feeder. Alot of people went to work daily and that why DDs are needed. If you can find a way to not let resident work then i got nothing much to say about taking the DDs away. THINK about it. What about those student? 241 cater to 2 primary school and a secondary. Just that alone that can fill those buses to full. If you want to compare to 179. They had alot buses running around during morning peak and it like 2 to 3 at 1 time. Not all are full also.
Do you know wat I found from e after school crowd?Sv 99 ADD upper deck has only 10 ppl, skool kids all crowding at e exit door... Behind bus appeared.
Likely because the kids dun want to move in, dilly dally door can't close.
So now bus waiting time long whose fault? This issue is the same w/ 241.
179 not packed is because those are not 179A. If 179 is packed is mostly from Pioneer MRT Stn. Seriously I'd rather 70% filled 179 or else all the buses your 241, 255, 257 all stucked at Pioneer MRT (Towards N9 for 241).
Seriously should take a look at how long e queue at BNL can stretch to for 179A - to Wendy's. And tat's x2 row as 1 row boards from entrance, the other from exit.
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Originally posted by Kira™:
Empty? After which stop? I dun see empty Buses from Pioneer mrt all the way to Jurong West and back to Pioneer During morning peak period. If 241 is empty what about 179? One shot come 3 to 4 and only the first 2 are filled the last 2 are practically empty also. I can also take picture of it and show you. Please understand the stituation before you start a topic.
I'll ask you, at that morning who's from campus going home? Unless you're telling me SBS plans for non peak demand.I think you're the one that dun understand passenger flow. You dun even realise how 179 could see 20,000 riders a day. If 179 is really low in demand, would SBS even bother to dispatch evening downroutes?
So tat means now 255 empty towards BNL means it's low demand? How come SBS makes it 6 mins headways full DD?
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9152L no more 143 perm stix anymore. More likely perm 98 to replace the missing LO3xs.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Do you know wat I found from e after school crowd?Sv 99 ADD upper deck has only 10 ppl, skool kids all crowding at e exit door... Behind bus appeared.
Likely because the kids dun want to move in, dilly dally door can't close.
So now bus waiting time long whose fault? This issue is the same w/ 241.
179 not packed is because those are not 179A. If 179 is packed is mostly from Pioneer MRT Stn. Seriously I'd rather 70% filled 179 or else all the buses your 241, 255, 257 all stucked at Pioneer MRT (Towards N9 for 241).
Seriously should take a look at how long e queue at BNL can stretch to for 179A - to Wendy's. And tat's x2 row as 1 row boards from entrance, the other from exit.
Yes your queue may be long in bnl But at pioneer? You can't just say that 241 cannot compare to 179.... Both are high demand service but can you guarantee that? You want 241 to be single deck then you prepare to get lot of complain. Since you so smart say all dun want move in you go tell them la? 99 Upper deck only 10 person? You are kidding me. I everyday afternoon sit at bus stop and observe those student coming out of school. The bus stop was so full that when 99 came i see the top are almost 50-60% full. Your ntu student not all are release at same time. But the 3 school almost had the same timing to release student. So you want to compare load i see no difference in it.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I'll ask you, at that morning who's from campus going home? Unless you're telling me SBS plans for non peak demand.I think you're the one that dun understand passenger flow. You dun even realise how 179 could see 20,000 riders a day. If 179 is really low in demand, would SBS even bother to dispatch evening downroutes?
So tat means now 255 empty towards BNL means it's low demand? How come SBS makes it 6 mins headways full DD?
Did i say that 179 is low in Demand? I say that both are high demand but your 179 Only had it in morning and eveing. 241 Afternoon load you see you then tell me. Student going back home after school and weekends church goer... you tell me which is higher? I think both are. You are just thinking about yourself and those ntu student. You can no need to care about other service passenger flow..... you think only 179 got student go home ar? Then those studying at juying and xingnam no need go home la?