SBS Transit's King Long-Higer Fuel Cell Hybrid bus for YOG?
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on test on sv179 today.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Maybe can let it try out on 354 for a month. Then SBS Transit will know how much they lose a month just by operating the bus.
Believe me, they will find the MAN demo more economical than this electric bus.
But sometimes its not just about economic costs. If everything in this world is based on economic cost alone, there would be very little research and development on new technologies.
The higer is more of a technology demonstration platform for sbstransit and ntu, and it cant be compared to the MAN demo which is something available commercially or on large scale production.
One bus wouldnt affect the losses much. What matters is the whole fleet, for eg sbstransit makes a wrong judgment or economical decision on a choice of bus. A simple 5% of additional fuel burn on the MAN over Citaros would be a large sum if u consider a fleet of 300 vehicles.
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354 the road end not easy to u-turn wor....
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
354 the road end not easy to u-turn wor....
how are the loads? i also see no point extending 354. they're all rich ppl there. that area property price....... *BOOMZ*
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Originally posted by sinicker:
how are the loads? i also see no point extending 354. they're all rich ppl there. that area property price....... *BOOMZ*
trying tto encourage people to take public transport lol
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
trying tto encourage people to take public transport lol
okay. give me my RWS shuttles.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Maybe can let it try out on 354 for a month. Then SBS Transit will know how much they lose a month just by operating the bus.Believe me, they will find the MAN demo more economical than this electric bus.
The positive publicity it gets from the public pays more than enough for that one bus. 179 is a very high visibility route carrying full of youngsters.
And NTU has a say in the bus, otherwise why do you think it's being chained to 179/179A/199?
Nobody other than bus fans will even bother to take a second look at the MAN demo.
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
The hydrogen bus is way too expensive to operate and not economical.
For every km it travels, how much is SBST going to lose just to purchase hydrogen fuel alone? Maybe diesel-electric bus is the better option.
That's where govt intervention in the free market is crucial. -
So is the NTU electric bus out on service yet???
Any pictures???
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What bodywork is this bus using?
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
What bodywork is this bus using?
Higer integral bodywork
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
So is the NTU electric bus out on service yet???
Any pictures???
Most likely SBS Transit found out that it is not economical to run the bus, so most likely they might just scrap the plan. Oh well, it's a China made bus anyway, so not really looking forward to it.Anyway, I doubt the bus will be out anytime soon even SBS Transit wants to test it.
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When this bus is gonna be on revenue svc??? Or SBST just leaving the bus to rot in the depot???
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Originally posted by dan474:
When this bus is gonna be on revenue svc??? Or SBST just leaving the bus to rot in the depot???
Well... its not exactly at the depot. Somewhere in NTU.
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Originally posted by XiaoTaro:
Well... its not exactly at the depot. Somewhere in NTU.
Last wk i took 179,i saw tat bus still parked inside ntu near the forested area. -
Originally posted by Merczrox:
Last wk i took 179,i saw tat bus still parked inside ntu near the forested area.Looks like NTU and SBS leaving it there to rot...
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Most likely SBS Transit found out that it is not economical to run the bus, so most likely they might just scrap the plan. Oh well, it's a China made bus anyway, so not really looking forward to it.Anyway, I doubt the bus will be out anytime soon even SBS Transit wants to test it.
1 refuel = $300
1 refuel = 100km
U can do the maths. -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
1 refuel = $300
1 refuel = 100km
U can do the maths.$3 per 1 km
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
1 refuel = $300
1 refuel = 100km
U can do the maths.The range is actually 300 to 400km. But a full refill can cost easily 1k, which makes it pretty expensive to operate this vehicle.
But then again, if u consider this on another view point, 1 trip of 179 is 10km. $30 per trip is easily recoverable with pax volume on 179 even on this vehicle alone. I do not count in the price of the vehicle, because its already bought! Maintenance, on the other hand, may cost money, but u still have to maintain it if u leave it there to rot, probably less frequently.
So price of fuel should not be the reason why the vehicle is still not in revenue service, believe its something else. Fuel is readily available too (Singapore one of the world's largest hydrogen producers, well because its also a byproduct of petroleum refining).
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Originally posted by dan474:
Looks like NTU and SBS leaving it there to rot...
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Maybe they scared later the bus explode...like the King Long CNG...that's why they never use. Whatever their claims may be, I don't trust the safety of these China made vehicles.
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Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:
Maybe they scared later the bus explode...like the King Long CNG...that's why they never use. Whatever their claims may be, I don't trust the safety of these China made vehicles.
But the yutong seems fine so far
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Still sleeping peacefully inside the holding area.
For those who are curious, the holding area is opposite School of Biomedical Sciences within the NTU campus.
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
But the yutong seems fine so far
I think he meant those hybrid/CNG China made buses, not normal ones. Anyway I missed SMB135E, hope to see it back in service again like SBS8031J on 6.Cheers.
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I think this bus should also be widely promoted for private bus chartering, targeting those in the niche market who are willing to spend more and at the same time do their bit for the environment. And this is the first hydrogen demonstrator bus in Singapore, hence would add more meaning to those who charter this bus; for instance, wedding (a once in a lifetime affair), company opening ceremony, etc. I think the statuatory boards should start first! Any bus charter, please consider this hydrogen bus!