SBS Transit's King Long-Higer Fuel Cell Hybrid bus for YOG?
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Anyway, this bus also have curtains :D
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
stupid idiots creating a flame war yet again.
If companies in sg use China-made buses as their own, why can't it be?
If companies (local or abroad) choose to use Gemilang as their preferred coach-builder, why not?
some people just cannot accept the fact that many corporate decisions are driven by cost considerations which provide the best overall value.
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i do hope sbst would do the same to like what it did to the OC500LE. its not easy to handle such buses. sbst dun garam, use it to boost company's reputation through its "initiatives" to greener technology and end up murdering the bus into crap. just look at SBST's B9TL, B10TL and KUBs are fine examples, so quickly in bad shape.
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i do hope sbst would do the same to like what it did to the OC500LE. its not easy to handle such buses. sbst dun garam, use it to boost company's reputation through its "initiatives" to greener technology and end up murdering the bus into crap. just look at SBST's B9TL, B10TL and KUBs are fine examples, so quickly in bad shape.
hopefully the hybrid will be used for a year then bye-bye to it as the trial determined as unsuccessful ;)
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i do hope sbst would do the same to like what it did to the OC500LE. its not easy to handle such buses. sbst dun garam, use it to boost company's reputation through its "initiatives" to greener technology and end up murdering the bus into crap. just look at SBST's B9TL, B10TL and KUBs are fine examples, so quickly in bad shape.
I don't really see any issues with the B10TL and the K230UB.If you're not going to venture into such a course, when do you intend to?
And as long as the bus gets me from point A to B in relative comfort and attempts to reduce its carbon footprint, why not?
And if we're gonna talk about "boosting reputation", I think SMRT is a worse culprit.
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Will the bus have seatbelt for BC?
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i do hope sbst would do the same to like what it did to the OC500LE. its not easy to handle such buses. sbst dun garam, use it to boost company's reputation through its "initiatives" to greener technology and end up murdering the bus into crap. just look at SBST's B9TL, B10TL and KUBs are fine examples, so quickly in bad shape.
Well said.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
I don't really see any issues with the B10TL and the K230UB.i had a talk with a mechanic in sbst recently. he said these 3 are the largest culprits. he said the B10TLs are the most buay tahan, very problematic, always end up in workshop. the aircon especially.
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i do hope sbst would do the same to like what it did to the OC500LE. its not easy to handle such buses. sbst dun garam, use it to boost company's reputation through its "initiatives" to greener technology and end up murdering the bus into crap. just look at SBST's B9TL, B10TL and KUBs are fine examples, so quickly in bad shape.
Oops correct thread :P (intended to place in Bus Observations) XP
Original: I dun see any problem with the VSOs
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i had a talk with a mechanic in sbst recently. he said these 3 are the largest culprits. he said the B10TLs are the most buay tahan, very problematic, always end up in workshop. the aircon especially.
That really recalls memories of 9889U in its first year of service. That's despite its introduction being much later than the other B10TLs.
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Originally posted by Apalis56:
I dun see any problem with teh VSOs...
B10TLs are basically very comfortable to sit at the upper deck but if you compared them now to probably a year or 2 ago, you would notice the condition has deteriorated alot. from seat cushions to dirty interior parts, poor aircon circulation particularly lower deck, bad insulation with strong diesel smell, suspension issues - bus sometimes tilts like its tipping for no reason, axle issues esp at tag axle. drivers complain the bus has poor pickup and very stiff brakes, press until leg pain.
of late many B10TLs have been upholstering seat cushions of stronger material which can be observed to be darker in colour, kudos to that.
to SBS2601D: SBS9889U current interior condition is alot left to be desired, dirty and black, lower deck floorboards are peeling off, seat cushions broken as well.
lets not go offtopic, shall we (:
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
B10TLs are basically very comfortable but if you compared them now to a year or 2 ago, you would notice the condition has deteriorated alot. from seat cushions to dirty interior parts, poor aircon circulation particularly lower deck, bad insulation with strong diesel smell, suspension issues - bus sometimes tilts like its tipping for no reason, axle issues esp at tag axle.
to SBS2601D: SBS9889U current interior condition is alot left to be desired, dirty and black, lower deck floorboards are peeling off, seat cushions broken as well.
lets not go offtopic, shall we (:
Wah lao.. demostrator teh condition so bad liao arh!
Eh SBST must TAKE CARE of KUD hor!
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no offense
i thot i seeing a tool box bus =.=
they install led tv ?
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
B10TLs are basically very comfortable to sit at the upper deck but if you compared them now to probably a year or 2 ago, you would notice the condition has deteriorated alot. from seat cushions to dirty interior parts, poor aircon circulation particularly lower deck, bad insulation with strong diesel smell, suspension issues - bus sometimes tilts like its tipping for no reason, axle issues esp at tag axle. drivers complain the bus has poor pickup and very stiff brakes, press until leg pain.
of late many B10TLs have been upholstering seat cushions of stronger material which can be observed to be darker in colour, kudos to that.
to SBS2601D: SBS9889U current interior condition is alot left to be desired, dirty and black, lower deck floorboards are peeling off, seat cushions broken as well.
lets not go offtopic, shall we (:
the bus tilts after a corner as it is a design feature by Volvo, not SBST. the bus will level itself back to its original position after coming to a stop. poor pickup due to a misinformed choice of gearbox and some drivers not knowing how to disengage the interlock properly. 9888Y which had a ZF performed much better than its Voith siblings.
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
B10TLs are basically very comfortable to sit at the upper deck but if you compared them now to probably a year or 2 ago, you would notice the condition has deteriorated alot. from seat cushions to dirty interior parts, poor aircon circulation particularly lower deck, bad insulation with strong diesel smell, suspension issues - bus sometimes tilts like its tipping for no reason, axle issues esp at tag axle. drivers complain the bus has poor pickup and very stiff brakes, press until leg pain.
of late many B10TLs have been upholstering seat cushions of stronger material which can be observed to be darker in colour, kudos to that.
to SBS2601D: SBS9889U current interior condition is alot left to be desired, dirty and black, lower deck floorboards are peeling off, seat cushions broken as well.
lets not go offtopic, shall we (:
I agree wit tat.Some of them the acceleration also lik very slow leh....
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
in fact, i wonder all the parts they use are from china.. This bus cost about RMB:3500K ($710K)
Are u sure? If it's so expensive , I rather re-body the bus...... SC Chivalrous? :)
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
in fact, i wonder all the parts they use are from china.. This bus cost about RMB:3500K ($710K)
Must also understand that hydrogen fuel cells requires the use of platinum as a catalyst to convert hydrogen to energy. This would bring up the cost of the vehicle pretty much until they manage to find a alternative material that's as efficient to replace it.
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
the bus tilts after a corner as it is a design feature by Volvo, not SBST. the bus will level itself back to its original position after coming to a stop. poor pickup due to a misinformed choice of gearbox and some drivers not knowing how to disengage the interlock properly. 9888Y which had a ZF performed much better than its Voith siblings.
i've taken B10TLs that can even start tilting quite badly to a side while moving straight then recover while moving, it never happened 6 months ago. and when you sit on the right when on sv31 B10TL from bedok south rd bound tpy. you feel like the whole bus is gonna flip which i didnt feel a year back. i do take tpy ADD full routes a lot. perhaps go try some day. (:
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Oh this bus is quite nice actually, just the top
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Originally posted by The Kiwi Bus Fan:
Oh this bus is quite nice actually, just the top
Well teh Rapid Penang Higers look much BETTER!
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Are They Going To Change The Small EDS? Caused It Serious is too small unless it is different From the KUBs and Only Display The Service No. Instead of where it terminates at and Information!!
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Nowadays is really not easy to satisfy the new generation of customers. Seat cushion peel or break a bit complain. flooring mat come out a bit complain. engine vibrate and louder a bit complain. rims dirty complain. Bus accelerate slow, complain. Buy europe bus but body from malaysia complain. Buy new fuel cell but from china also complain. Wa, no wonder we see new ppl everyday.
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Originally posted by Apalis56:
Well teh Rapid Penang Higers look much BETTER!
The RapidKL's ones also....
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Are They Going To Put This Bus On Some Bus Service Like The Made By China Yutong On Svc 854 o.O
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Originally posted by SBS9231S:
Are They Going To Put This Bus On Some Bus Service Like The Made By China Yutong On Svc 854 o.O
U mean long haul svc? Maybe. I think this is only an experiment.......