Distance-based throughfare & 2.5% cut in fares from July 3rd
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Haha... PTC ownself also confused? LOL....
According to Mediacorp news... seems like... They use distance... regardless of whether you are taking MRT/LRT/Bus.
The basic is one time off. Plus the extra distance. Probably it has got to do with, whether you start with a bus or MRT?
Probably its challenging to find out the exact fare for now.
Trunk bus, feeder bus and basic rail (EW/NS/LRT) have the same fare tables.
CCL and NEL have a premium accorded from this fare table, and this premium should be payable to CCL and/or NEL if you travel based on how far you have travelled using CCL and/or NEL.
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Express fares macham fare hike
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CCL/NEL premium payable on top of basic distance fare:
Up to 1.0km:5¢
1.1km to 2.0km: 10¢
2.1km to 7.2km: 15¢
over 7.2km: 25¢ -
Express/FFw bus fares have a premium of 60¢ for every trip.
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seasonpass remains the same
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Originally posted by gd4u:
My current MRT ride from JUR to CLE is 80 cents, transfer to bus is another 19 cents. So, when the new ruling comes in, i gotta pay 71 cents plus whatever the fare SMRT will charge me?!?!?
Approximately 3.7km+3.1km=6.8km. new fare 109¢. 10¢ increase.
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Trunk bus, feeder bus and basic rail (EW/NS/LRT) have the same fare tables.
CCL and NEL have a premium accorded from this fare table, and this premium should be payable to CCL and/or NEL if you travel based on how far you have travelled using CCL and/or NEL.
I see. Thanks for clarification. =)
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
I give you an example
Let's say you are an insane person living at Ang Mo Kio Ave 10 ... You want to go to Raffles Place and stand there dancing to "Nobody"
For some unknown reason, you take 88 to Ang Mo Kio Hub, then 132 to Scotts Rd, then 162 to Collyer Quay. The current fare system would be calculated as:
BUS 88 ANG MO KIO AVE 10 -> ANG MO KIO AVE 3
BUS 132 ANG MO KIO AVE 3 -> SCOTTS RD (-50 cents transfer rebate)
BUS 162 SCOTTS RD -> COLLYER QUAY (-50 cents transfer rebate)Under the new fare system, the fare would be calculated in this way
BUS ANG MO KIO AVE 10 -> COLLYER QUAY via bus 88, 132, 162
as if it were done using ONE single bus ride.
Hence there is no need for the transfer rebate anymore.
assuming from blk 555.
old fare: 69¢+81¢+41¢=191¢.
new fare: 157¢ (17.6km)
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now how will basic plus and premium fares shape up? single trip fare only?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Express fares macham fare hike
but transferring to express bus at any time of your journey only adds 60¢ to your fare!
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Approximately 3.7km+3.1km=4.8km. new fare 91¢. you save 8¢.
That's comforting to know ... Thanks.
Somehow, i suppose many would still prefer a comfortable ride than to a cheaper ride ... -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
assuming from blk 555.
old fare: 69¢+81¢+41¢=191¢.
new fare: 157¢ (17.6km)
quite confused... the example is using 88+132+162. so let say i take from AMK Ave 10 blk 555, alight at Ave 3 Mrt station, WALK to Ave 8 and take Sv128 to collyer quay... so the fare should be only 1.5 fare stage + 16 fare stage = 17.5 fare stage (which is around 14km) at S$1.41? Did they based on the distance travelled on that particular service that u take?? or based on the SHORTEST distance service? or based on distance mention from one point on map to another point on map?
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
quite confused... the example is using 88+132+162. so let say i take from AMK Ave 10 blk 555, alight at Ave 3 Mrt station, WALK to Ave 8 and take Sv128 to collyer quay... so the fare should be only 1.5 fare stage + 16 fare stage = 17.5 fare stage (which is around 14km) at S$1.41? Did they based on the distance travelled on that particular service that u take?? or based on the SHORTEST distance service? or based on distance mention from one point on map to another point on map?
actual distance travelled on the bus! if it's by displacement (shortest distance) it'll encourage unnecessary joyriding (go 1 round only to alight 2 stops away) and defeat the purpose of a distance-based (not displacement-based) fare system.
17.6km is the actual distance travelled (according to Google Maps, treat it as a car journey) using 88+132+162. if it by sv128 it's $1.50 currently, $1.41 by July.
travelling by the shortest distance will help you save a lot even if you had to transfer. hence train is at an advantage here as it is more direct in routing.
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
approximately 24.8km+3.9km=28.7km. new fare $1.82.
Hi Tamago, so is still almost the same as the fare that i am currently paying......damn......no savings and have to pay 1 cent more -
Im very very confused. So to summarise, is it as long as I got transfer, whether from bus to train, or train to bus, i have to pay more?
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Public transport fares to go down by 2.5% from Jul 3
By Lin Jiamei | Posted: 20 April 2010 1231 hrsPhotos 1 of 1 
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Public transport fares to go down by 2.5% from Jul 3 SINGAPORE : Bus and train fares will be reduced by 2.5 per cent from July 3 when the Public Transport Council (PTC) introduces a new distance-based fare system.
But not all commuters will end up with savings.
Currently, if you transfer when you travel by bus or train, you end up paying what is called a transfer penalty - that is a second boarding charge.
This has been gradually removed over the last two years through rebates.
Come July, this penalty will be completely removed with the introduction of a full distance-based fare system.
"The change means this - the consumers will have to decide on their priority between distance and speed. Depending on the decision, you can save money or you can end up paying a little bit more, but for the benefit of faster travelling time," said Gerard Ee, chairman of PTC.
A distance-based fare means you pay according to the distance you travel, regardless of the number of transfers you make between buses, or between buses and trains.
This new system will benefit people who have to make such frequent transfers. But for people who choose to go by a slightly longer route, they may actually end up paying more.
Take for example a trip from Thomson Plaza to Collyer Quay.
If you were to take the direct bus service number 162, you would travel 11.8 kilometres and the fare would be $1.33.
With the distance-based system, you could choose a shorter route with one transfer via the MRT.
The distance would come up to 11.2 kilometres and it would be four cents cheaper.
With the change, the PTC expects two in three commuters to pay less or see no change to how much they spend on public transport.
The savings - an average of 48 cents a week.
But the remaining one third of commuters will end up paying some 31 cents more per week.
"One obvious reason is that this group of commuters hardly make any transfers or no transfers at all, so they have not benefited from the removal of transfer penalty," said Ee.
Commuters may also end up paying more if they make short trips, as the starting fare for both buses and trains will go up under the new calculation.
On buses, they will go up 2 cents to 71 cents, and increase 3 cents to either 71 cents or 76 cents on trains.
Senior citizens and students will continue to enjoy concessionary travel.
Their fares will be capped at 7.2 kilometres.
When the changes kick in, seven in ten enjoying concessionary travel will see savings.
Meanwhile, SMRT has said it supports the implementation of distance-based fares.
Its chief operating officer Yeo Meng Hin said it will provide commuters with the convenience of different travel modes and encourage commuters to use the public transport system.
In spite of the fare reduction, SMRT said it is committed to further assist commuters who require financial assistance through its various programmes.
Overall, the PTC said the fare adjustment will cost the operators some S$32 million annually.
- CNA/il/lsread those in bold.
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I have this question about distance fares:
are distance fares related to different routes?
for example, taking bus from clementi mrt station to orchard mrt station, i have two choices, service 105 and service 106, but they uses different routes although same boarding and alighting bus stop, so will service 105 and service 106 charge the same fare or different fares?
thanks
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Originally posted by icky:
I have this question about distance fares:
are distance fares related to different routes?
for example, taking bus from clementi mrt station to orchard mrt station, i have two choices, service 105 and service 106, but they uses different routes although same boarding and alighting bus stop, so will service 105 and service 106 charge the same fare or different fares?
thanks
Since, you need to tap in / out, unless you sneaked in without paying fares, which is OT, thus, they will see which bus you have boarded. So if you use 106, then 106's distance will be calculated and if you use 105, then 105's distance will be calculated. (Thus the fare might have a difference, depending on the distance.)
This is different from MRT, where I can take EWL at Outram Park and transfer to NSL in City Hall in order to get to my destination, Dhoby Ghaut OR I can take NEL from Outram Park to Dhoby Ghaut striaght. For such cases, since both routes are within the paid areas, so the fares will be the same and they will not know if you board NEL or EWL > NSL. (Thus the fares will be the same)
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Originally posted by dragg: http://www.pressrun.net/weblog/2010/04/when-is-a-fare-hike-a-fare-cut.html
read this.
Everybody knows it even without going into details.
It's election year and they are going all out to make you feel good.
Yeah.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Everybody knows it even without going into details.
It's election year and they are going all out to make you feel good.
Yeah.
igornant only.It's alrdy stated long ago the current fare stage is 800m.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
igornant only.It's alrdy stated long ago the current fare stage is 800m.
Relax lah sbst when you are replying to me.
What is "igornant'?
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Originally posted by icky:
I have this question about distance fares:
are distance fares related to different routes?
for example, taking bus from clementi mrt station to orchard mrt station, i have two choices, service 105 and service 106, but they uses different routes although same boarding and alighting bus stop, so will service 105 and service 106 charge the same fare or different fares?
thanks
I'll give you a more drastic example...
Bukit Merah to Bukit Purmei
You take 131/275 vs you take 123
definitely will be different fares
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Originally posted by icky:
I have this question about distance fares:
are distance fares related to different routes?
for example, taking bus from clementi mrt station to orchard mrt station, i have two choices, service 105 and service 106feren, but they uses different routes although same boarding and alighting bus stop, so will service 105 and service 106 charge the same fare or different fares?
thanks
different mileage but likely same fare since mileage won't differ much.