SBS Transit trials Scania K310UD

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 11:36

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  nv take frequently =/= never take before. 8033's aircon sucks as well. anyone agree?

  
  i agree

• ^tamago^

  27 Mar 10, 11:51

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  i rather 58 or 59. 25 should get more VO. need so many B9TL's for what. demand also not high. time so much. why need B9TL power? just dump them with those horrible VO's BN sent over.

  
  

  25 really slow-mo along hougang ave 3 and always kena overtaken by 854! :(

• XiaoTaro

  27 Mar 10, 11:54

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  i believe the root cause of this problem is the design of the brakes and suspensions.
  Kubs use disc braking, compared to the Volvo Mk4s, which uses air braking.

  Buses using air brakes usually brake more smoothly.

  Buses uses pressurized air braking or a combination of pressurized air and fluid as a medium to control the brakes, the disc and drum brakes are the point of friction.

  Imagine a bicycle, the brake cable is the medium, whilst the point of friction is the brake pads mounted on the front and back rims, same concept goes to the buses, but using air instead as the cable.

• SBS2601D

  27 Mar 10, 11:57

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  Kub only 230bhp

  alr will have prob going uphills liao

  and i believe e gearbox requires some form of tuning as well

  
  You underestimate the KUBs....151's KUBs climb the hills at NUS pretty well. But IMO, the eye-opener must be the B9TL. The B9TL climbs faster than say....the MKIIIs and the MKIV DMs. In fact, its the MKIV DMs (the ZF ones) that struggle more than the MKIIIs. The Voith MKIV DMs are marginally faster than the MKIIIs.

  The one I cannot trust to climb these hills would be the VOs. Fortunately none has passed through that area....yet. At least as far as I know.

  IMO, the one that has the least difficulty for the NUS services would be the MKIV DM3500.....really no sweat.

• sgbuses

  27 Mar 10, 12:00

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  wasn't it also because SBS started bringing in auto tx buses tat ppl started looking into auto tx taxi 2 decade later?

  But for buses, it's a common item so how I see is if e bus is relatively cheap, low cost to maintain and remains reliable it's better. It's like there's no pt spending more on fabric deco interior as u need to spend more time and $$ to maintain them before turning mouldy in e long run.

   Furthermore we macham crash load our buses during peak hrs.

  We don't need a posh interior. What we need is buses that do not jerk or vibrate excessively. Even the O405 can accomplish that.

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:01

  Originally posted by ^tamago^:

   

  25 really slow-mo along hougang ave 3 and always kena overtaken by 854! :(

  
  I ever took 854 before.

  chiong one, immediately move off floor accerlerator riao.

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 12:03

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  
  You underestimate the KUBs....151's KUBs climb the hills at NUS pretty well. But IMO, the eye-opener must be the B9TL. The B9TL climbs faster than say....the MKIIIs and the MKIV DMs. In fact, its the MKIV DMs (the ZF ones) that struggle more than the MKIIIs. The Voith MKIV DMs are marginally faster than the MKIIIs.

  The one I cannot trust to climb these hills would be the VOs. Fortunately none has passed through that area....yet. At least as far as I know.

  IMO, the one that has the least difficulty for the NUS services would be the MKIV DM3500.....really no sweat.

  
  at NUS, it's ok

  at benjamin sheares bridge where sv36 passes, there is a prob

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:03

  Originally posted by sgbuses:

  We don't need a posh interior. What we need is buses that do not jerk or vibrate excessively. Even the O405 can accomplish that.

  
  I still find Volvo B7RLE relatively less vibrating, but thinking abt 280bhp.

• SBS2601D

  27 Mar 10, 12:03

  854 can hardly be considered fast compared to say....169.

• SBS2601D

  27 Mar 10, 12:05

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  at NUS, it's ok

  at benjamin sheares bridge where sv36 passes, there is a prob

  
  Won't la. The power of the KUB is pretty ok. Heck, as long as it gets over the bridge, I don't mind.

  I've seen other buses roll backwards at NUS and that's far scarier when you're in another bus behind.

  And I don't mean roll backwards for a couple of centimetres, and only once.

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:06

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  at NUS, it's ok

  at benjamin sheares bridge where sv36 passes, there is a prob

  
  The rpm was kept at 3000rpm and it has problem climbing still

  Was wondering should 36, 48 be given a speical K270UB

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 12:08

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  
  Won't la. The power of the KUB is pretty ok. Heck, as long as it gets over the bridge, I don't mind.

  I've seen other buses roll backwards at NUS and that's far scarier when you're in another bus behind.

  And I don't mean roll backwards for a couple of centimetres, and only once.

  
  lol

  i've experienced that many times as well

  wad i tinke bcs need to do for e ks is to floor quite a bit on e pedal

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 12:09

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  The rpm was kept at 3000rpm and it has problem climbing still

  Was wondering should 36, 48 be given a speical K270UB

  
  DM3500s will do

• Stage

  27 Mar 10, 12:23

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  
  You underestimate the KUBs....151's KUBs climb the hills at NUS pretty well. But IMO, the eye-opener must be the B9TL. The B9TL climbs faster than say....the MKIIIs and the MKIV DMs. In fact, its the MKIV DMs (the ZF ones) that struggle more than the MKIIIs. The Voith MKIV DMs are marginally faster than the MKIIIs.

  The one I cannot trust to climb these hills would be the VOs. Fortunately none has passed through that area....yet. At least as far as I know.

  IMO, the one that has the least difficulty for the NUS services would be the MKIV DM3500.....really no sweat.

  voith is meant for hill climbing. and VO's have done 151 before.

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:25

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  DM3500s will do

  
  7 more yrs to go

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:26

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  lol

  i've experienced that many times as well

  wad i tinke bcs need to do for e ks is to floor quite a bit on e pedal

  
  get e biting point lor.

  I think the MK3, VO2x, KUB needs to go it to prevent it from rolling back.

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 12:27

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  7 more yrs to go

  
  after that, lets say we get a MAN 18.400

• sbst275

  27 Mar 10, 12:29

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  after that, lets say we get a MAN 18.400

  
  Have been hoping for a small fleet of MAN buses.

  But it seems should be concentrating on 3x or even 2x ADDs riaos.

• AEW5001

  27 Mar 10, 12:31

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  Have been hoping for a small fleet of MAN buses.

  But it seems should be concentrating on 3x or even 2x ADDs riaos.

  
  me too

  MAN is great in both engine and suspension

• bus555

  27 Mar 10, 12:55

  I agree... 25 should get more VO3x or better still.. lo3x :P

• Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1)

  27 Mar 10, 13:17

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  nv take frequently =/= never take before. 8033's aircon sucks as well. anyone agree?

  
  i agree too
  

• chickenlittle2

  27 Mar 10, 14:02

  Originally posted by ^tamago^:

   

  what does that has to do with your vibration argument?

  
  we were comparing with the performance earlier..

  8033D
  - Almost see it on svc everyday
  - Vibrates
  
  8030L
  - Spent most of it's time replacing spare parts. When it's comes back on svc, the bus breakdown the day after or the day itself.
  - Min Vibration

• chickenlittle2

  27 Mar 10, 14:06

  Originally posted by TIB1083L:

  
  chickenlittle doing SLBP promotion. 

  suck it up, different people different opinion. Just suck thumb. you can't fight against the general opinion de.

  
  I am nt doing promotion but just let you guys to know what is happening.. Rather than ppl taking ideas from the sky..

• chickenlittle2

  27 Mar 10, 14:08

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  i rather 58 or 59. 25 should get more VO. need so many B9TL's for what. demand also not high. time so much. why need B9TL power? just dump them with those horrible VO's BN sent over.

  
  nt bad, u really complain king. Maybe VO2x may satisfy u.

• SBS9818A

  27 Mar 10, 14:20

  Originally posted by chickenlittle2:

  
  I am nt doing promotion but just let you guys to know what is happening.. Rather than ppl taking ideas from the sky..

   

  I think what is really happening is that you are showing people how YOU are taking ideas from the sky.