Bus rationlization due to CCL Stage 1 -2
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Hi,
here are some of the bus svc which I think will be withdraw or diverteded.
Some propose only due to my experience....
24 (withdrawn)
70 - terminate at S,goon int?
76 + 135 intergrate?
43 (withdrawn)?
80 (withdrawn) / loop at geylang lor 1?
22 loop at ubi?
Macperson Est bus svc affected?
overall i thik only SBS Transit will be affected.
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Too early to make assumption bro, and I dun think any of those mentioned would be affected, especially withdrawing of 24 and 43. Those you mentioned I believe were due to they passby Paya Lebar and Serangoon, but withdrawing would deeply affect those passengers going beyond.
Cheers.
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I believe none will be affected for the moment as the central bus planning kicks in at the end of the year. Maybe there would be adjustments to the frequency but there's a high chance the route will remain.
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Originally posted by service_238:
I believe none will be affected for the moment as the central bus planning kicks in at the end of the year. Maybe there would be adjustments to the frequency but there's a high chance the route will remain.
Agree with you. Services worst to worst will just have some route amendment, i.e. plying on other roads, but terminating of buses would probably remain, merging quite unlikely.Cheers.
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Why make assumptions/speculations that services are going to be withdrawn or amended when LTA has not annouced anything about bus rationalisation yet?Serangoon and Paya Lebar are high passenger corridor areas, and the Circle line has only 3 carriages. Do you think they can support the increasing future demand? If they anyhow withdraw or shortern any bus routes, there will be many complaints again in future. If the bus network is still comprehensive enough, why break it? And travelling and demand patterns are so much different from the last decade, LTA wants people to take more buses as well, making such rationalisations is as good as shooting themselves in their own foot.
In the NEL bus rationalisation in the early 2000s, TIBS also withdrawn service 520 (which I don't understand why withdrawing this useful services is approved.), shortern service 106. So if it is based on your speculations again, I think service 853 will likely be withdrawn, service 61 will be shortern to New Bridge Road ter, service 966 and 985 to be intergrated into one service. Since the parent company do want to see more ridership on their rails to earn back the monsy asap, and compromising bus services instead.
As a frequent bus commuter, I won't wish to see any bus services along any future rails lines to be adversely affected. It can only makes things worse, especially supply cannot meet the demand in the future years.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Why make assumptions/speculations that services are going to be withdrawn or amended when LTA has not annouced anything about bus rationalisation yet?Serangoon and Paya Lebar are high passenger corridor areas, and the Circle line has only 3 carriages. Do you think they can support the increasing future demand? If they anyhow withdraw or shortern any bus routes, there will be many complaints again in future. If the bus network is still comprehensive enough, why break it? And travelling and demand patterns are so much different from the last decade, LTA wants people to take more buses as well, making such rationalisations is as good as shooting themselves in their own foot.
In the NEL bus rationalisation in the early 2000s, TIBS also withdrawn service 520 (which I don't understand why withdrawing this useful services is approved.), shortern service 106. So if it is based on your speculations again, I think service 853 will likely be withdrawn, service 61 will be shortern to New Bridge Road ter, service 966 and 985 to be intergrated into one service. Since the parent company do want to see more ridership on their rails to earn back the monsy asap, and compromising bus services instead.
As a frequent bus commuter, I won't wish to see any bus services along any future rails lines to be adversely affected. It can only makes things worse, especially supply cannot meet the demand in the future years.
With rising of people in Singapore, I also think that rationization is not a wise choice, as buses serves to some locations which trains can't.
Cheers.
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Nah 24 wont be withdrawn i guess. Airport Svc, and linkage to Paya Lebar.
Thumbs down for 70 and 43 to be withdrawn. ):
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Whether some bus routes get cleaved or withdrawn or not is totally up to the bus companies and the relevant management authorities. If the company finds it economically unwise to continue operating a route that may lose alot of passenger volume due to new transport alternatives then it may choose to cut the route, either fully or partially.
Of course, let's not forget that cutting too many routes might leave commuters with lesser alternatives.
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43 would definitely stay, furthermore it serves direct link from buangkok to upp paya lebar/marine parade corridors. 24 n 70 might go due to parallel within CCL route ba..
another one might be integration wif svcs 53+81 to become sgn-cga svc..
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Originally posted by SBS2692R:
Nah 24 wont be withdrawn i guess. Airport Svc, and linkage to Paya Lebar.
Thumbs down for 70 and 43 to be withdrawn. ):
24 from amk-cga = nsl amk-bishan, ccl bishan-pl, ewl pl-tm, cg tm-cg
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Originally posted by vicamour:
In the NEL bus rationalisation in the early 2000s, TIBS also withdrawn service 520 (which I don't understand why withdrawing this useful services is approved)...
The withdrawal of Service 520 has nothing to do with NEL... if the people do not support the bus service by taking it, it has a better use being returned to the original fleet of Service 851, which people choose to take in loads, to cope with the peak hour loads.
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Originally posted by SBS8258Y:
24 from amk-cga = nsl amk-bishan, ccl bishan-pl, ewl pl-tm, cg tm-cg
then interesting why 22 was allowed to duplicate 24 all the way between ang mo kio and ubi...
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Any source for Bus rationlization?
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Originally posted by TIB1010Y:
Hi,
here are some of the bus svc which I think will be withdraw or diverteded.
Some propose only due to my experience....
24 (withdrawn)
70 - terminate at S,goon int?
76 + 135 intergrate?
43 (withdrawn)?
80 (withdrawn) / loop at geylang lor 1?
22 loop at ubi?
Macperson Est bus svc affected?
overall i thik only SBS Transit will be affected.
Hopefully none of these happened.
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Originally posted by chikopek:
Hopefully none of these happened.
It hasnt happened yet.And lik u say,hopefully it wun happen.
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Originally posted by SBS8258Y:
24 from amk-cga = nsl amk-bishan, ccl bishan-pl, ewl pl-tm, cg tm-cg
Siao ah....Take train all the way from Ang Mo Kio - Changi Airport....Die ah....I still prefer to take 24 to Airport rather than take train...I hope none would get rationalized.....But the 53/81 merge not bad.....maybe can have 53 end at Tampines...then another service to cover the deleted sector of service 53 to Changi Airport....
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
then interesting why 22 was allowed to duplicate 24 all the way between ang mo kio and ubi...
to help 24 in the load? anw 22 doesnt follow 24 into boundary rd since the NEL rationalism -
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Siao ah....Take train all the way from Ang Mo Kio - Changi Airport....Die ah....I still prefer to take 24 to Airport rather than take train...I hope none would get rationalized.....But the 53/81 merge not bad.....maybe can have 53 end at Tampines...then another service to cover the deleted sector of service 53 to Changi Airport....
Have a 53m? but i hope things stay as it is now.. -
I forsee central planning of bus routes would be like Tokyo style where they make bus routes short like feeders serving commuters nearby to the nearest stations with longhaul routes like Service 14 or 30 non existant in the future
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Originally posted by TIB1010Y:
Hi,
here are some of the bus svc which I think will be withdraw or diverteded.
Some propose only due to my experience....
24 (withdrawn)
70 - terminate at S,goon int?
76 + 135 intergrate?
43 (withdrawn)?
80 (withdrawn) / loop at geylang lor 1?
22 loop at ubi?
Macperson Est bus svc affected?
overall i thik only SBS Transit will be affected.
Would like to add on to service 11, this service currently serves as a link between Kallang MRT to Kallang Leisure Park. But with the new CCL Stadium MRT this bus service will very likely be withdrawn too. -
Originally posted by SBS9276M:
I forsee central planning of bus routes would be like Tokyo style where they make bus routes short like feeders serving commuters nearby to the nearest stations with longhaul routes like Service 14 or 30 non existant in the future
Impossible that central planning have big impact towards current bus services as the transport ministry have said that they have no plans for a big revamp for the current bus routes and they have ruled out cutting long haul services also.
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I dont think there will be any bus rationlisation when CCL stage 1 & 2 opens
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
then interesting why 22 was allowed to duplicate 24 all the way between ang mo kio and ubi...
there's a diff - 22 calls at bus-stop os serangoon mrt whereas 24 goes straight down boundary rd to upp paya lebar -
Originally posted by SBS8258Y:
there's a diff - 22 calls at bus-stop os serangoon mrt whereas 24 goes straight down boundary rd to upp paya lebar
Last time before the North East Line was opened, Service 22, 53 & 70 passed by Serangoon Stadium. Until when North East Line open it under went rationalization.....I still hope there will not be any rationalization like what some of u guys mention lah...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Last time before the North East Line was opened, Service 22, 53 & 70 passed by Serangoon Stadium. Until when North East Line open it under went rationalization.....I still hope there will not be any rationalization like what some of u guys mention lah...
uhhh that wasn't rationalisation.. that was phase 1 route amendments to link the HDB estates to the MRT stations!
rationalisation took place from phase 2 onwards, services like 81 85 97 103 106 111 502 got cut..