SMRT: SMRTB is a liability, no future
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Originally posted by vicamour:
I'm not talking about Malaysia. I don't know why are you so critical about Malaysia. Every country has its own problems. At least in Malaysia, you can pay for a bunglow for a price of a small 4 room HDB flat here. Where people want to migrate is their own personal choice. At least they voted themselves out using their own feet. Well, that happens when the citizens gets so fed up and tired of a country that is so unique. Anywhere they go is just better than living here forever.
Well, stop complaining about the place where others prefer.Get back to topic.
Yeah i also wander why he so critical about Malaysia.Their water and electricity bills for a terrace house is the same rate as our 2 room flat.All got plus minus.Who wanna choose which country is their blardy bussiness.
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can't be bothered.
double standard will kill everyone
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Simply I've relatives in Malaysia. It's not critical, go and open your eyes and ears.
It's very natural one say Singapore sucks (simply because of complacency nothing else), say Malaysia better. You'll always think e grass is greener elsewhere.
You go there integrate, you realise it's not better either. Their wages can't even buy them anything!
Imagine RM2.35 for a lit of petrol in Malaysia w/ their wages (dun come and tell me convert RM2.35 to SGD, you go convert their typical Malaysians wages to SGD for me
). Over here S$1.70 can f%& e gahmen.double standards.
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Weird thing about 187.
A lot of buses on Saturdays. No buses on Weekdays. 187 is always crowded with commuters on Weekdays and the frequency is about 10-12 minutes. On weekdays its about 6-8 minutes. Kinda weird but it happens. =X
You mean weekends, especially Saturdays?During weekday peak hours, I had ever waited 187 for about more than 10 minutes (Immediately after the front bus was left) even if S Shift buses are introduced.
Perhaps for weekend waiting time waiting time become lesser, prolly because some of S Shift buses operate on TQ Shift are on the road to decrease the frequency (waiting time)
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Originally posted by sbst275:
can't be bothered.
double standard will kill everyone
There's bound to have double standard everywhere even in SG.See now your reply shows that you look down on Malaysian.Try to think even though you're so HIGHLY educated here,own a car and private houses you think that you really OWNED them?Oh c'mon dun make me laugh my eldest brother owned a bungalow house in Pasir Ris,Got 3 cars including his daughter one but still eyeing to invest house and proper properties abroad.Although my MY cousins earn as little as RM1600 p/m but still he can afford to own a house and a car w/o struggle then can you explain that?You wanna compare everything there in SGD go ahead,I cant be bothered with you at all.
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and now e train buzzer problem is alrdy gone.
TOs wait for everyone at platform cleared to press buzzer and close e door.
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Sorry to interrupt but going to make a comment here...
This is "competition"
This is competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7SswrzR-wc
This train managed to overtake the other train belonging to a rival company despite the rival company having a 40-second lead. This train operates at 120km/h. The train's motor sounds familiar isn't it. Too bad the 200 series (C651) does not have this "characteristic".
This is "world-class" standard
We all know the morning peak hour frequency so let's leave it at that
This is world-class standard
Once again, my apologies if this is off-topic.
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Originally posted by E5:
Sorry to interrupt but going to make a comment here...
This is "competition"
This is competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7SswrzR-wc
This train managed to overtake the other train belonging to a rival company despite the rival company having a 40-second lead.
This is "world-class" standard
We all know the morning peak hour frequency so let's leave it at that
This is world-class standard
What is last image's meaning? (Esp. the 8 with the sub 01 and the character 上, seemed to be above in chinese, but japanese is what then......)
It looked to me is a train timetable, such as at 10am has a frequency of 3 minutes per train -
They should have registered the buses with SML prefix such that some if hopefully all of the bus can ended with a J
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
What is last image's meaning? (Esp. the 8 with the sub 01 and the character 上, seemed to be above in chinese, but japanese is what then......)
It looked to me is a train timetable, such as at 10am has a frequency of 3 minutes per trainThis is the timetable which states the departure time of the train during weekday at 銀座駅(Ginza station) bound for 浅�(Asakusa) on the 銀座線Ginza Line.
The number on the left denotes the hour, in this case, it means the 8th hour, which means 8am
The subs number denotes the minutes, in this case, it means 8:01am
The character 上 actually means 上野(Ueno), train with this character will terminate at 上野(Ueno), instead of 浅�(Asakusa).
So with all the explaination, what you asked actually means that the train departing at 8:01am will terminate at 上野(Ueno).
In case you're curious about the timetable from 10am till evening peak, here you go
As a additional note, the 銀座線(Ginza Line) uses rolling stock in 6-car formation and get it's electricity from 3rd-rail. Quite similar to our system isn't it?
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Originally posted by E5:
This is the timetable which states the departure time of the train during weekday at 銀座駅(Ginza station) bound for 浅�(Asakusa) on the 銀座線Ginza Line.
The number on the left denotes the hour, in this case, it means the 8th hour, which means 8am
The subs number denotes the minutes, in this case, it means 8:01am
The character 上 actually means 上野(Ueno), train with this character will terminate at 上野(Ueno), instead of 浅�(Asakusa).
So with all the explaination, what you asked actually means that the train departing at 8:01am will terminate at 上野(Ueno).
In case you're curious about the timetable from 10am till evening peak, here you go
As a additional note, the 銀座線(Ginza Line) uses rolling stock in 6-car formation and get it's electricity from 3rd-rail. Quite similar to our system isn't it?
So in translating to Singapore's context, it looked almost like it is a "North South Line" where Asakusa is "Jurong East" and Ueno is "Yishun" sort of . (Due to the time availability, it does not fit into Aljunied - Outram Park trains or Marina Bay - Ang Mo Kio trains)
By the way, how does the video above where link was provided by E5, where the person who took the video knows that this was the train has the 40 sec lead (I mean there might be many similar rolling stock what)
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
So in translating to Singapore's context, it looked almost like it is a "North South Line" where Asakusa is "Jurong East" and Ueno is "Yishun" sort of . (Due to the time availability, it does not fit into Aljunied - Outram Park trains or Marina Bay - Ang Mo Kio trains)
By the way, how does the video above where link was provided by E5, where the person who took the video knows that this was the train has the 40 sec lead (I mean there might be many similar rolling stock what)
It's more of demand rather than time availibility. The limitation of this line is that unlike NSL and EWL during morning peak where only a direction on a certain portion of the line is in high demand, the whole of this line in both direction is in high demand.
Nope, because there's no station stop in between Yokohama and Kawasaki.
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Originally posted by E5:This is competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7SswrzR-wc
This train managed to overtake the other train belonging to a rival company despite the rival company having a 40-second lead. This train operates at 120km/h. The train's motor sounds familiar isn't it. Too bad the 200 series (C651) does not have this "characteristic".
The C651 technically can too. It's the same family of propulsion system supplied by Siemens. (2100 series received a slightly later modulated version, our C651 could "sing" as well if modified but LTA probably thinks its not worth the cost) Just happened that the motor is limited to 80-90km/h running (just like how public buses here are limited to 60 km/h running)
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:By the way, how does the video above where link was provided by E5, where the person who took the video knows that this was the train has the 40 sec lead (I mean there might be many similar rolling stock what)
The train only started moving at 40s into the video.
BTW trains on the Ginza Line uses propulsion motors and stopping mechanism similar to our C151 fleet. So there is no technological excuse.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
The C651 technically can too. It's the same family of propulsion system supplied by Siemens. (2100 series received a slightly later modulated version, our C651 could "sing" as well if modified but LTA probably thinks its not worth the cost) Just happened that the motor is limited to 80-90km/h running (just like how public buses here are limited to 60 km/h running)
The train only started moving at 40s into the video.
BTW trains on the Ginza Line uses propulsion motors and stopping mechanism similar to our C151 fleet. So there is no technological excuse.
I can see from it, I was saying that the other train that moves at 0 sec of the video, surely cannot be the only train with this model, so how does the video taker know that that was the train that has moved 40 second earlier (Since the video taker took the train which moved only at 40 sec). E5 on his latest post (Before this) state that because there is no station between the two. (But the tracks are so far apart, so do they serve the same stations -- just that the difference is skipping stations, afterall this train that finally overtook, had skipped many stations)
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Originally posted by E5:
It's more of demand rather than time availibility. The limitation of this line is that unlike NSL and EWL during morning peak where only a direction on a certain portion of the line is in high demand, the whole of this line in both direction is in high demand.
Nope, because there's no station stop in between Yokohama and Kawasaki.
Also, I presume that Asakusa - Ueno trains runs in both direction as well. (It seemed to me that Yokohama and Kawasaki's distance is way longer than Yio Chu Kang - Khatib as well)
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
I can see from it, I was saying that the other train that moves at 0 sec of the video, surely cannot be the only train with this model, so how does the video taker know that that was the train that has moved 40 second earlier (Since the video taker took the train which moved only at 40 sec). E5 on his latest post (Before this) state that because there is no station between the two. (But the tracks are so far apart, so do they serve the same stations -- just that the difference is skipping stations, afterall this train that finally overtook, had skipped many stations)
This overtake is very well-known in Japan's trainspotting world.
Keikyu deliberately designed that section of the route to be as fast as possible and a timetable as such that it lines up with the JR train's timetable - that it will always overtake and hence demonstrate that it is faster than JR.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
This overtake is very well-known in Japan's trainspotting world.
Keikyu deliberately designed that section of the route to be as fast as possible and a timetable as such that it lines up with the JR train's timetable - that it will always overtake and hence demonstrate that it is faster than JR.
So, it is basically saying that "SBST"'s trains are faster than the "SMRT"'s trains (Too bad our MRT trains have no similar lines running in parallel / same lines running in different tracks as of yet)
PS: Does the 2 tracks connected such that the JR train can come over to Keikyu and vice versa?
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
This overtake is very well-known in Japan's trainspotting world.
Keikyu deliberately designed that section of the route to be as fast as possible and a timetable as such that it lines up with the JR train's timetable - that it will always overtake and hence demonstrate that it is faster than JR.
Talking of which they always get the load when the Tokaido Line is down due to signal and passenger accidents...
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:So, it is basically saying that "SBST"'s trains are faster than the "SMRT"'s trains (Too bad our MRT trains have no similar lines running in parallel / same lines running in different tracks as of yet)
PS: Does the 2 tracks connected such that the JR train can come over to Keikyu and vice versa?
Keikyu is on standard gauge (1435 mm) while JR is on Japanese Narrow gauge (1067 mm).
What I would like to add on to folks who are in awe at the Ginza Line timetable, I must remind that there are areas in Japan where there are only one or two trains (for example, Iwazumi Line in Iwate Prefecture) per day on the line. Why so few? It all down to utilization.
I believe that its not the first time I brought up this topic when it comes to transportation. Places where there are a lot of commuters, service have to be upped. But this does not mean upping the entire network's frequency. How about up s975's frequency when adding buses to s190? Not sensible right.
Japan has a network of strict utilization and hence where its busy, trains run frequent, where it is less utilized, services will be cut.
How does it relate here? Well, you gotta weigh out the places that are running empty buses and trains and places where its packed like sardines. Frequency is one thing; the amount of people taking them is another. However it is in responsible systems that we see tight schedules coupled with packed trains, loose schedules with well, a fully seated transport.
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