SMRT buses vs SBS buses
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Hi Bus Fans,
I would like to have your opinions with regards to the following:
Personally, I find that SBS bus drivers are damn slow drivers as compared to SMRT bus drivers. Some SBS drivers can be found driving at a speed of 40km/h, whereas most SMRT bus drivers are actually driving quite fast, I would say at least 60-70km/h. I would like to know why is this so.
Secondly, I do not understand why is there a need for the SBS bus drivers to purposely slow down until almost to a halt at almost every red light junction especially when it is obvious that its not going to change to red anytime soon (because the opp green man is not even flashing). SMRT bus drivers will usually bo hiew and drive thru, whereas th SBS drivers like to slow down at every junction.
Also, SBS drivers like to enter each and every bus stop, when its obvious that there is either no body at the bus stop or there is no one flagging for the bus to stop. SMRT drivers on the other hand, would not enter the bus stops unneccessarily.
The only good thing about SBS buses is that their bus frequency are better than SMRT, other than that, SMRT wins hands down.
Lastly, I would like to share with you guys my experience... On this particular day, I was going to McRitchie Reservoir. I could have taken 93 or 855. SBS 93 came first, but I did not board it. I waited around 5 minutes later and SMRT 855 came. Therefore, 93 had a so called 5 minutes head start. Then it was just after farrer, the 855 caught up with the 93. And then the ultimate stunt came!! The bus 93 went into an empty bus stop. It was obvious no one was alighting (I can see clearly) and no one was boarding (I can see that too). Then the SBS bus driver pulled his hand out from his window and signalled the SMRT 855 to please move ahead!!!
This tells me how slow can SBS drivers be. Fancy stopping just to let the buses behind him to go ahead first. If I was on that bus 93, I would definitely have been pissed off to the max.
Anyway, when I reach my destination, I turned back and I saw absolutely no trace of that bus 93!!
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Originally posted by MaNyZeR:
Hi Bus Fans,
I would like to have your opinions with regards to the following:
Personally, I find that SBS bus drivers are damn slow drivers as compared to SMRT bus drivers. Some SBS drivers can be found driving at a speed of 40km/h, whereas most SMRT bus drivers are actually driving quite fast, I would say at least 60-70km/h. I would like to know why is this so.
Secondly, I do not understand why is there a need for the SBS bus drivers to purposely slow down until almost to a halt at almost every red light junction especially when it is obvious that its not going to change to red anytime soon (because the opp green man is not even flashing). SMRT bus drivers will usually bo hiew and drive thru, whereas th SBS drivers like to slow down at every junction.
Also, SBS drivers like to enter each and every bus stop, when its obvious that there is either no body at the bus stop or there is no one flagging for the bus to stop. SMRT drivers on the other hand, would not enter the bus stops unneccessarily.
The only good thing about SBS buses is that their bus frequency are better than SMRT, other than that, SMRT wins hands down.
Lastly, I would like to share with you guys my experience... On this particular day, I was going to McRitchie Reservoir. I could have taken 93 or 855. SBS 93 came first, but I did not board it. I waited around 5 minutes later and SMRT 855 came. Therefore, 93 had a so called 5 minutes head start. Then it was just after farrer, the 855 caught up with the 93. And then the ultimate stunt came!! The bus 93 went into an empty bus stop. It was obvious no one was alighting (I can see clearly) and no one was boarding (I can see that too). Then the SBS bus driver pulled his hand out from his window and signalled the SMRT 855 to please move ahead!!!
This tells me how slow can SBS drivers be. Fancy stopping just to let the buses behind him to go ahead first. If I was on that bus 93, I would definitely have been pissed off to the max.
Anyway, when I reach my destination, I turned back and I saw absolutely no trace of that bus 93!!
To ensure safety on the road. Took TIB742A on 187 today. the male BC slowed down at the Woodlands Ave 3 red light junction as he knew the traffic light was starting to turn red.
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Some SBST svcs schedule got too much time.
And ya...*safety*
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seems like SMRT got more hot blooded SL speeding as if somethings are chasing them....
SBS like got more uncles who stay calm, relax and no-hurry -
1. For me, OC versus Merczs. On 22th December I boarded TIB426M on 852 home from YCK. The bus before TIB426M is SMB94P (on perm 851) But when TIB425R reached Marymount Road, it started to chiong (there is no people alight at that stop) whereas SMB94P needed to stop at there and let people board and alight. It chionged in the maximum speed in order to pass the red-light junction between Marymount Road and Marymount Lane before it turned red. After TIB426M managed to pass the traffic light, I turned back and looked: I could not spot SMB94P at Marymount Road.
2. Anyway, it is usual for 852 to overtake 157 at night while travelling on Lornie Road (Towards Farrer Road direction) When 852 reached last Bukit Batok bus-stop, I had to wait for around 5 minutes for 157 to come and go home.
To conclude for 1) the BC who drove TIB426M on 852 chionged all the journey, as if it was lambated for around 5 to 10 minutes.
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It comes down to schedule. SL and BCs have similar set of regulations and penalties, so they are just reacting to how much or little time the timetable has given them to run.
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Yes i agree with you that SL drive faster than the BC.
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not forgetting, SBST buses have their performance largely crippled by sbst..
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
It comes down to schedule. SL and BCs have similar set of regulations and penalties, so they are just reacting to how much or little time the timetable has given them to run.
Yes. If the schedule is tight, the SLs or BCs will have to rush throughout the entire journey. That is also why most of the time you see SMRTB SLs rushing around most of the time because SMRTB's schedules are more tighter than SBST's schedules.Next time if you see a SMRT/SBST bus rushing down a road, please try to think in an alternative way. While safety is an important factor, the SL/BC is trying his/her best to do their job well. Unless it gets really reckless, we have nothing that we can do but have to trust on the drivers skills, for they have been driving the same route and know the road's traffic conditions much better than anyone of us. And also take into account how demanding their job can be (e.g. sitting in the bus at full concentration at all times, stress caused by other motorists on the road etc.). In other words its not easy for them as well ... ...
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
not forgetting, SBST buses have their performance largely crippled by sbst..
If you mean the k230 & OC, then it is the horsepower difference between the 2 buses.
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If anyone has the chance should try boarding SBST buses when they are more than 30min behind schedule (read: Suntec services whenever something crops up), you can see them fly especially if its their last trip (read: new year's eve)
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Originally posted by TIB657M:
1. For me, OC versus Merczs. On 22th December I boarded TIB426M on 852 home from YCK. The bus before TIB426M is SMB94P (on perm 851) But when TIB425R reached Marymount Road, it started to chiong (there is no people alight at that stop) whereas SMB94P needed to stop at there and let people board and alight. It chionged in the maximum speed in order to pass the red-light junction between Marymount Road and Marymount Lane before it turned red. After TIB426M managed to pass the traffic light, I turned back and looked: I could not spot SMB94P at Marymount Road.
2. Anyway, it is usual for 852 to overtake 157 at night while travelling on Lornie Road (Towards Farrer Road direction) When 852 reached last Bukit Batok bus-stop, I had to wait for around 5 minutes for 157 to come and go home.
To conclude for 1) the BC who drove TIB426M on 852 chionged all the journey, as if it was lambated for around 5 to 10 minutes.
Are you refering TIB426M or TIB425R?
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I prefer SBS. SMRT buses, especially the O405s, are in such bad condition. I took TIB 758E sometime ago and to my horror, I found a seat which was broken at 2 ends. Also, SBS introduces K230UBs, which is way better than the OC500LEs as they are much more quieter. SBS uses double decker buses, which occupies less space on the road then the articulated buses that SMRT uses. SMRT also bought China made buses. In addition, SBS uses all their new buses to Changi Airport while SMRT uses O405s. Tourists will definitely have a better impression on SBS.
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Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:
I prefer SBS. SMRT buses, especially the O405s, are in such bad condition. I took TIB 758E sometime ago and to my horror, I found a seat which was broken at 2 ends. Also, SBS introduces K230UBs, which is way better than the OC500LEs as they are much more quieter. SBS uses double decker buses, which occupies less space on the road then the articulated buses that SMRT uses. SMRT also bought China made buses. In addition, SBS uses all their new buses to Changi Airport while SMRT uses O405s. Tourists will definitely have a better impression on SBS.
and KUBs are just pieces and pieces of underpowered cheapskate shit brought in by cheap SBST...
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the KUBS are not good for speeding... and SMRT captains are fast with the O405s, bendies and OC500LEs...
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SBS buses have more comfortable seats.
SMRT buses have very uncomfortable seats.
That's my comparison.
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Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:
I prefer SBS. SMRT buses, especially the O405s, are in such bad condition. I took TIB 758E sometime ago and to my horror, I found a seat which was broken at 2 ends. Also, SBS introduces K230UBs, which is way better than the OC500LEs as they are much more quieter. SBS uses double decker buses, which occupies less space on the road then the articulated buses that SMRT uses. SMRT also bought China made buses. In addition, SBS uses all their new buses to Changi Airport while SMRT uses O405s. Tourists will definitely have a better impression on SBS.
K230 quieter than OC,my foot la..Seems lik u nvr stood beside those earlier batch of kubs at the bus stops be4.. =.=
But if u r talking abt the eevs,then definitely they r much quieter than the euro 4s.But we cant say much nw,cuz the eevs r still new.Who knows,few more years down the road,they wld be jus as bad as their euro 4 counterparts. -
Originally posted by MaNyZeR:
Hi Bus Fans,
I would like to have your opinions with regards to the following:
Personally, I find that SBS bus drivers are damn slow drivers as compared to SMRT bus drivers. Some SBS drivers can be found driving at a speed of 40km/h, whereas most SMRT bus drivers are actually driving quite fast, I would say at least 60-70km/h. I would like to know why is this so.
Secondly, I do not understand why is there a need for the SBS bus drivers to purposely slow down until almost to a halt at almost every red light junction especially when it is obvious that its not going to change to red anytime soon (because the opp green man is not even flashing). SMRT bus drivers will usually bo hiew and drive thru, whereas th SBS drivers like to slow down at every junction.
Also, SBS drivers like to enter each and every bus stop, when its obvious that there is either no body at the bus stop or there is no one flagging for the bus to stop. SMRT drivers on the other hand, would not enter the bus stops unneccessarily.
The only good thing about SBS buses is that their bus frequency are better than SMRT, other than that, SMRT wins hands down.
Lastly, I would like to share with you guys my experience... On this particular day, I was going to McRitchie Reservoir. I could have taken 93 or 855. SBS 93 came first, but I did not board it. I waited around 5 minutes later and SMRT 855 came. Therefore, 93 had a so called 5 minutes head start. Then it was just after farrer, the 855 caught up with the 93. And then the ultimate stunt came!! The bus 93 went into an empty bus stop. It was obvious no one was alighting (I can see clearly) and no one was boarding (I can see that too). Then the SBS bus driver pulled his hand out from his window and signalled the SMRT 855 to please move ahead!!!
This tells me how slow can SBS drivers be. Fancy stopping just to let the buses behind him to go ahead first. If I was on that bus 93, I would definitely have been pissed off to the max.
Anyway, when I reach my destination, I turned back and I saw absolutely no trace of that bus 93!!
Not all SBST buses drive slowly..U nvr taken SBST buses which r behind schedule be4..I have taken a few of them be4 and they chiong jus as crazily as the SMRT buses when tat happens..
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Joke of the month (2010) : Scania K230ub is much better than Mercedes OC500LE , much quieter.
Kawasaki: You certainly make my day.
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for mi
SMRT buses is good
Old SBS buses is good
if KUB is much quieter than Other Buses
tell mi i go take
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Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
Joke of the month (2010) : Scania K230ub is much better than Mercedes OC500LE , much quieter.
Kawasaki: You certainly make my day.
Exactly.Joke of the year better la.
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Originally posted by Dejomel:
SBS buses have more comfortable seats.
SMRT buses have very uncomfortable seats.
That's my comparison.
I agree to the point. Find that the seats of the Merc 0405s have very little cushion and my butt tends to ache after a long journey. Also those furry seats attract too much dust already, they ought to be replaced.I would say that the seats for the newer WAB buses for SBST and SMRT are about the same.
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
I would say that the seats for the newer WAB buses for SBST and SMRT are about the same.
they are in fact the same model. the vogelsitze seats. its on ly the covering that is slightly diff.
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Company Policy. Junctions speed canotch be above 30 km/j got poster at JE int informing BCs
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imo 961 is a good example of tight schedules. same goes to 061.