Where are the Dennis Darts?
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Originally posted by SBS7322B:
Eh Eh. Relax. I did consider your above options. I didn't say cancelling all of the trunk services. I was trying to say reducing trunk services.
As for the terminals. Perhaps an few addition for the heartlands.
The problem is that u will have a very difficult time trying to find a suitable space for terminal. Look at some of the mature estate. I dont think its easy to ask the relevant departments to spare u some space for terminal. Just take a look at the Boon Lay Int, despite being a hub in the west, theres still problems to it.
And dont forget that nobody likes to stay near to a bus terminal / interchange. -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
The problem is that u will have a very difficult time trying to find a suitable space for terminal. Look at some of the mature estate. I dont think its easy to ask the relevant departments to spare u some space for terminal. Just take a look at the Boon Lay Int, despite being a hub in the west, theres still problems to it.
And dont forget that nobody likes to stay near to a bus terminal / interchange.
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
The problem is that u will have a very difficult time trying to find a suitable space for terminal. Look at some of the mature estate. I dont think its easy to ask the relevant departments to spare u some space for terminal. Just take a look at the Boon Lay Int, despite being a hub in the west, theres still problems to it.
And dont forget that nobody likes to stay near to a bus terminal / interchange.
I dun mind staying near ter or int, very convenient. I live in Circuit Rd when I was young, MacPherson Est Ter is very convenient for the residence there.Cheers.
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Originally posted by SGCar:
I dun mind staying near ter or int, very convenient. I live in Circuit Rd when I was young, MacPherson Est Ter is very convenient for the residence there.Cheers.
Those days Singapore wasn't tat developed either. It was in the 1980s tat w/ more and more new towns developed, existing bus svs routing had to be extended tat's why partly roadside terminals closed down. -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Theres a church that will bump up abit of load on weekends.
Not forgetting the primary school is helping the load as well.
If they were clever enough, perhaps by extending the service to loop at Marine Parade might help to bump up the load abit. (:no lah, tabernacle BP church onli 50 members plus, primary school yes
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Ok, lets get back on topic...
The darts doing 42 today:
SBS8016D, SBS8018Z
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
The problem is that u will have a very difficult time trying to find a suitable space for terminal. Look at some of the mature estate. I dont think its easy to ask the relevant departments to spare u some space for terminal. Just take a look at the Boon Lay Int, despite being a hub in the west, theres still problems to it.
And dont forget that nobody likes to stay near to a bus terminal / interchange.
New bus terminals don't have to be a stand alone building, like what they are in the 70s and 80s. Entering the new era, LTA can integrate bus terminals into small HDB malls or multistorey car parks, with this bus terminals premises integrated into parts of car parks, loading/unloading areas, etc.For example, places like Hougang Green Shopping Mall, Rivervale Mall, Elias Mall, Pasir Ris West Plaza, 888 plaza, etc can be a smaller scale integrated transport hub, like Ang Mo Kio int/AMK hub, Toa Payoh int/HDB hub and Boon Lay int/Jurong Point. With 3 to 4 services in these hubs, you only need at most 10 lots for buses and a boarding and alighting area.
So it provides a mini transport hub concealed from residents while provide a centralised amenities area for residents. So why not???
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Originally posted by vicamour:
New bus terminals don't have to be a stand alone building, like what they are in the 70s and 80s. Entering the new era, LTA can integrate bus terminals into small HDB malls or multistorey car parks, with this bus terminals premises integrated into parts of car parks, loading/unloading areas, etc.For example, places like Hougang Green Shopping Mall, Rivervale Mall, Elias Mall, Pasir Ris West Plaza, 888 plaza, etc can be a smaller scale integrated transport hub, like Ang Mo Kio int/AMK hub, Toa Payoh int/HDB hub and Boon Lay int/Jurong Point. With 3 to 4 services in these hubs, you only need at most 10 lots for buses and a boarding and alighting area.
So it provides a mini transport hub concealed from residents while provide a centralised amenities area for residents. So why not???
the thing is, these buildings are already built. It would be a bit hard to carve out a bus terminal from the structure wouldnt it?
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
the thing is, these buildings are already built. It would be a bit hard to carve out a bus terminal from the structure wouldnt it?
Hard it is, but it's not impossible, if LTA is flexible enough to allow such alternations or expansions.Especially expansions, if the recent malls like Junction 8, Northpoint, Jurong Point can be expanded in terms of size, such small malls can also expanded more for bus terminus at the ground floor and more shops and facilities higher up.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Hard it is, but it's not impossible, if LTA is flexible enough to allow such alternations or expansions.Especially expansions, if the recent malls like Junction 8, Northpoint, Jurong Point can be expanded in terms of size, such small malls can also expanded more for bus terminus at the ground floor and more shops and facilities higher up.
they could also expand the bus stops such that its is quite long tenough to accomadate a few number of buses? maybe follow sth like kovan though i know its because of the NEL...
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
they could also expand the bus stops such that its is quite long tenough to accomadate a few number of buses? maybe follow sth like kovan though i know its because of the NEL...
I don't think this will be the trend for new bus terminals in future. Firstly, LTA wants a proper looking bus terminal with berths and boarding and alighting points and expansion of bus stops means more lanes of roads will be eaten away. Secondly, such kind of bus stop derived bus terminal is not feasible in the 21st century bus services concept since LTA wants smooth and fast operations for buses along bus stops and bus lanes.On the current trend right now, even some of the roadside terminals are in danger of being replaced or removed. Marina Centre terminal might have a new terminal once the IR @ Marina Centre is up, else the current services might be looping around Marina Centre or terminating at Shenton Way. Ghim Moh terminal might be removed and the services might be terminating at Buona Vista instead, which I think Buona Vista might be a proper boarding and alighting terminal in future, where more services are required when One North industrial park becomes more matured, and if any major redevelopment of the old Ghim Moh estate.
Sims Place terminal might be eliminated if LTA wants to remove the terminal and 64 might be extended to Eunos Interchange, if there is a major redevelopment in Sims Place estate. Geylang Lor 1 terminal already has its replacement soon, near Kallang entertainment center if I'm not wrong.
The only roadside terminal that is safe will be the one outside Kembagan MRT station. 42 only has one bus parked outside the bus stop and Jalan Kembagan is not a very busy road. Changi Village although an old estate, but I believe that it will be safe, as I don't think there will be any major redevelopments as the authorities might just want to remain the place for its tranquility and tourist attraction.
Kovan is a different story since Upper Serangoon Road already has a number of servces plying along and Hougang Central interchange nearby. But I think there might be a major redevelopment in future for Kovan, especially the ex-Hougang South bus interchange premises. Maybe the idea of a small integrated transport hub can be build in future, as I feel that Kovan Mall is a bit too small for the current shoppers there. Maybe services 115 and 119 might just terminate there. 83 can even be extended there with direct links to Punggol, Sengkang and Kovan.
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if there's regional or rather neighbourhood bus terminals, chances are trunk svs would make a round before leaving the new town as like pre - 1980s.
This leds to cancellation of feeder svs (last MRT train issue as well) and it wun be efficient.
As for long bus stops, it isn't going to work as you're not going to expect ppl to slowly walk up to the 4th or 5th bus. Eventually coming buses would be held back
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BBDEP Dennis Darts on 92 O.o
I have the pix taken in 2007.. it was posted somewhere else years ago and it is now being re-posted here.
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Guys, as we know, Darts are already gone from Service 92. And those on Service 42 probably won't survive past the end of the year.
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Guys, as we know, Darts are already gone from Service 92. And those on Service 42 probably won't survive past the end of the year.
how about middle of the year? haha -
Originally posted by service_238:
how about middle of the year? haha...hope for the best
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Originally posted by service_238:
how about middle of the year? haha
haha..... well, see how fast LTA is carrying out the works.