Where are the Dennis Darts?
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Thought tat a few Darts were perm on 68 for a while?
there was only one i tot? did 68 only during peak hours.....anyone took it when it was on 168?
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Originally posted by 105090:
ohh.. i just visited sgwiki... noticed only 1 left for 92..... that's very sad... but then, since i worked at buona vista in 2006, the darts could never cope with the crowd coming/ going to science park.... i guess its the capacity problem thats why they are replaced with the larger buses
92 demand is crazy
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
there was only one i tot? did 68 only during peak hours.....anyone took it when it was on 168?
Yeah i tink so.It was 8015G if i am nt wrong....
No.I didnt take it.Heard tat it brokedown in the expressway if i rmb correctly rite?
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Thought tat a few Darts were perm on 68 for a while?
Perm bus is SBS74M. No darts. (but 8015G regular cameor while 74M go do other TMI svcs)
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
there was only one i tot? did 68 only during peak hours.....anyone took it when it was on 168?
becuz 68 only operate during peak hrs with 1 bus xD.
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Dart got do 3 be4 also?
3/3B cross-over. Seen a few bus fans who managed to snap and post a picture of it on 3 (At PSR and PGL). None on 3B though.
Use Internet Search engines =)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/sbs3661z/SANY0089.jpg -
Originally posted by SBS1984E:
Perm bus is SBS74M. No darts. (but 8015G regular cameor while 74M go do other TMI svcs)
I see.K. -
Originally posted by SBS1984E:
3/3B cross-over. Seen a few bus fans who managed to snap and post a picture of it on 3 (At PSR and PGL). None on 3B though.
Use Internet Search engines =)
Lol waste time searching for wat..Know here enough alr..Haha :) -
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
Dennis Dart did 284 in 2003. I think one of them was SBS8009A. Other noticeable Dennis Dart cameos on BBDEP svcs were 33, 151 and 156.
For BNDEP, to add on to those mentioned, it appeared on svcs 37 and 68.
Clarifiaction about the regos of the Darts on 58 & 109 -
SBS8016D on 109 (in early 2007) as breakdown replacement
SBS8018Z on 58 (in Jul 2007)
Though I nv took it when it cameo on 109, I remember there was another Dart did cameo on the service other than SBS8016D right?Cheers.
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Didn't see any Darts on 92 today. (or rather yesterday, ha ha)
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
The darts tat were perm JRBP 182 went on to be perm SLBP 182 for a while also ah?
Depot shifting from the old JRBP to the new SLBP lol.Service 183 (not the current route) might have Darts before earlier on when converted from NAC to FAC somewhere in 2000-2001. When service 182 (NAC) and service 183 (FAC) routes merged in 2002, the integrated service 182 (now PAC) had Darts for a while before it switched to a CAC Volvo MK2 WA perm (I can't remember the rego).
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Originally posted by SBS9622Y:
Didn't see any Darts on 92 today. (or rather yesterday, ha ha)
No chance to see Darts on service 92 anymore...
Why??
SBS8013L
Non-User Lay-Up Status till 08 Jan 2011...Source from one motoring website...
Now left the 5 remaining ones from BNDEP.
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Gonna miss the Darts. One of the fastest buses with the Allison gearboxes when I took it on 92 years back. Now the only chance is on 42.
Guess the era for public midibuses is going to be over soon. Since demand for these services has been increasing and roads have become wider. I thought there will be new Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 from SBST in future.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Gonna miss the Darts. One of the fastest buses with the Allison gearboxes when I took it on 92 years back. Now the only chance is on 42.
Guess the era for public midibuses is going to be over soon. Since demand for these services has been increasing and roads have become wider. I thought there will be new Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 from SBST in future.
Dont lost hope though.
With the central bus planning coming up soon, i foresee alot of the current services will be cut and in return, we might see some new routes that serve more of the housing estate. If the operations is justify for midibus to be on the route, i dont see reason why midibus will not make a comeback in Singapore. We just gotta wait.Cheers :D
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Dont lost hope though.
With the central bus planning coming up soon, i foresee alot of the current services will be cut and in return, we might see some new routes that serve more of the housing estate. If the operations is justify for midibus to be on the route, i dont see reason why midibus will not make a comeback in Singapore. We just gotta wait.Cheers :D
Actually I'm not very optimistic about this LTA central bus planning, especially in speculation that bus routes might be cut, leaving commuters lesser choices of direct journeys, which might in turn make public transport undesirable instead. They just don't want to improve the basics: make current bus services faster and more accessible. I'm already turn off by the number of bus route cuts for the past decade, especially the NEL rationalisation. Service 128 can be made faster and more direct to offer commuters a better alternative to rail, but the authorities just won't bother to improve it further.I don't think midibuses will come back, based on our more overpopulated population in future. Bus operators need more higher capacity buses instead to meet the higher demands. Midibuses just don't make any sense now for meeting future demands.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Actually I'm not very optimistic about this LTA central bus planning, especially in speculation that bus routes might be cut, leaving commuters lesser choices of direct journeys, which might in turn make public transport undesirable instead. They just don't want to improve the basics: make current bus services faster and more accessible. I'm already turn off by the number of bus route cuts for the past decade, especially the NEL rationalisation. Service 128 can be made faster and more direct to offer commuters a better alternative to rail, but the authorities just won't bother to improve it further.I don't think midibuses will come back, based on our more overpopulated population in future. Bus operators need more higher capacity buses instead to meet the higher demands. Midibuses just don't make any sense now for meeting future demands.
they want ppl to take MRT...look at all the lines they have planned to construct for the next few years...wad to do? -
Originally posted by SBS7382C:
they want ppl to take MRT...look at all the lines they have planned to construct for the next few years...wad to do?Now many people are unhappy with the crowded train situations, and they are switching to buses. If the authorities are taking away these alternatives from commuters in future, I guess they will eventually switch back to their own transport. And how about those commuters who prefer to take buses and prefer direct connections by buses???
People like alternatives, and the current should be improved and not worsen. If the rail comes to a stop one day, then people will still have to take a bus or a cab, which is more versatile and flexible. To much control on public transport doesn't do any good either.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Gonna miss the Darts. One of the fastest buses with the Allison gearboxes when I took it on 92 years back. Now the only chance is on 42.
Guess the era for public midibuses is going to be over soon. Since demand for these services has been increasing and roads have become wider. I thought there will be new Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 from SBST in future.
theres a dart operating on some scheme B service.. duplicating a bit of 196.. from Dover > Buona Vista > Shenton Way area..
not sure still operating anot now -
Originally posted by 105090:
theres a dart operating on some scheme B service.. duplicating a bit of 196.. from Dover > Buona Vista > Shenton Way area..
not sure still operating anot nowPA3300U operating on that?
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Now many people are unhappy with the crowded train situations, and they are switching to buses. If the authorities are taking away these alternatives from commuters in future, I guess they will eventually switch back to their own transport. And how about those commuters who prefer to take buses and prefer direct connections by buses???
People like alternatives, and the current should be improved and not worsen. If the rail comes to a stop one day, then people will still have to take a bus or a cab, which is more versatile and flexible. To much control on public transport doesn't do any good either.
good point.
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
Depot shifting from the old JRBP to the new SLBP lol.Service 183 (not the current route) might have Darts before earlier on when converted from NAC to FAC somewhere in 2000-2001. When service 182 (NAC) and service 183 (FAC) routes merged in 2002, the integrated service 182 (now PAC) had Darts for a while before it switched to a CAC Volvo MK2 WA perm (I can't remember the rego).
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92 used Darts because of Mt Sinai roadside parking issues as well
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Dont lost hope though.
With the central bus planning coming up soon, i foresee alot of the current services will be cut and in return, we might see some new routes that serve more of the housing estate. If the operations is justify for midibus to be on the route, i dont see reason why midibus will not make a comeback in Singapore. We just gotta wait.Cheers :D
dun make sense w/ smaller and smaller interchanges built
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
PA3300U operating on that?
dont tink soprolly another dart or smth
PA3300U continues to serve JE Int - JUR island shuttle.
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Originally posted by 105090:
theres a dart operating on some scheme B service.. duplicating a bit of 196.. from Dover > Buona Vista > Shenton Way area..
not sure still operating anot now
is it 642