B9TLs that vibrate badly

• chickenlittle2

  30 Dec 09, 23:41

  Originally posted by Stage:

  our cdge b9tl's really got that axle problem as mentioned by 7484P above. as for vibrations it can be adjusted one la. it doesnt mean that vibrate badly = lousy. its how strong the material that 'holds' the engine that affects the vibrations. strong hold = less/no vibration. weak hold = terrible vibrations. so if you happen to take a b9 with no vibrations, try it again a few months later. its my personal experience. one point about 7493R which i used to like was that when the first time i took it, it had 0 vibrations at all. soon after like 6 months later it was terrible. then months later when it went to 143 it became better. so what do you think?

  
  torsion bush la.. If I nt wrong, SBS 7493R got it changed recently.

• SMB92U

  30 Dec 09, 23:59

  'For an ear-piercing 'soothing' experience when on a B9TL, please do take my bus; SBS7381E. We'll guarantee to make you deaf!' - SBS7381E

• SBS7322B

  31 Dec 09, 00:02

  I feel that this thread is soon going to be a criticism thread aka 'blacklisted B9TLs' thread. Then flame wars will start from there. I feel that in order to prevent flame wars, talk more about technical stuff then criticising other B9TLs.
• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 10:28

  Originally posted by Stage:

  our cdge b9tl's really got that axle problem as mentioned by 7484P above. as for vibrations it can be adjusted one la. it doesnt mean that vibrate badly = lousy. its how strong the material that 'holds' the engine that affects the vibrations. strong hold = less/no vibration. weak hold = terrible vibrations. so if you happen to take a b9 with no vibrations, try it again a few months later. its my personal experience. one point about 7493R which i used to like was that when the first time i took it, it had 0 vibrations at all. soon after like 6 months later it was terrible. i then realized the vibrations doesn't determine the performance of the bus. then months later (when it went to br143) it became better again. so what do you think?

  
  the funny thing is, unlike the LO3/VO3 which tag axle sounds 'loose', the B9's more commonly have it on the front axle. makes it even scarier.

  plus, the tridents have this 'loose axle' problem on the front as well, but i haven't seen any VSO's having such problems.

• SBS2601D

  31 Dec 09, 10:29

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  the funny thing is, unlike the LO3/VO3 which tag axle sounds 'loose', the B9's more commonly have it on the front axle. makes it even scarier.

  plus, the tridents have this 'loose axle' problem on the front as well, but i haven't seen any VSO's having such problems.

  
  For all my complaints about the VSO....I still prefer them to the Tridents.

  Less of course 9844Z. The wheel fell out. ahahahaha

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 10:29

  an example of what i mean, e.g.: you take svc 76 right. at a certain part inside amk there's this steep downhill with strips. then the bus goes over it and then all you hear is this loud 'gonggg gonng gongg gong glong plonk' sound.

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 10:31

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  
  For all my complaints about the VSO....I still prefer them to the Tridents.

  Less of course 9844Z. The wheel fell out. ahahahaha

  
  I would think that VSO's are better maintained/sturdier than the Tridents and B9's. Engine roaring yes, that's common, but there are 'silent' B10TL's too.

  Axle problems, none that I've heard so far. The B10TL may be loud and have lousy acceleration, but it feels really sturdy compared to the fidgety Trident or the bumboat B9's.

• SBS2601D

  31 Dec 09, 10:36

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  I would think that VSO's are better maintained/sturdier than the Tridents and B9's. Engine roaring yes, that's common, but there are 'silent' B10TL's too.

  Axle problems, none that I've heard so far. The B10TL may be loud and have lousy acceleration, but it feels really sturdy compared to the fidgety Trident or the bumboat B9's.

  
  The B10TL has been roaring at constant noise levels since day one, so I've gotten used to it. In fact I was a little sad to see the 161 VSOs taken out. Fortunately there are now VSOs on 88 to let me hear the familiar roaring.

  The Trident? Everything about this bus is run-down, right down to the lights, interior and exterior.

  I initially thought the VSOs on 161/168 would not survive roaring down TPE every single day, but it has proven me wrong. Again less 9844Z.

  IMO, the best maintained DD relative to age must be the VO2X, VO3X Batch II and III and the VSOs.

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 10:40

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  
  The B10TL has been roaring at constant noise levels since day one, so I've gotten used to it. In fact I was a little sad to see the 161 VSOs taken out. Fortunately there are now VSOs on 88 to let me hear the familiar roaring.

  The Trident? Everything about this bus is run-down, right down to the lights, interior and exterior.

  I initially thought the VSOs on 161/168 would not survive roaring down TPE every single day, but it has proven me wrong. Again less 9844Z.

  IMO, the best maintained DD relative to age must be the VO2X, VO3X Batch II and III and the VSOs.

  
  Oh yes the VSO's would survive :D

  Loud engine and screaming Voith gearbox outlived your expectations.

  Except for one 9844Z where the wheel fell out... :P

• SBS2601D

  31 Dec 09, 10:44

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  Oh yes the VSO's would survive :D

  Loud engine and screaming Voith gearbox outlived your expectations.

  Except for one 9844Z where the wheel fell out... :P

  
  The VSO is starting to grow on me....when I see the VSO come to pick me up, I know the AC is definitely good, and the seat is comfy and the bus is quite stable with good suspension.

  The noise, the slow-poke stuff, I can take, no problem.

  Sometimes I'll wait a bit for a Trident for nostalgia sake (I used to take tridents everyday), and without fail I'll leave grumbling about the stuffiness inside, and the bouncy rocking horse suspension made worse by the shuddering when it stops. There are times you think the trident was going to stall on you when the handbrake goes off or the bus comes to a stop.

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 10:47

  I take Tridents for nostalgia too :P

  Haven't taken a ride in one for a long time already.

  I miss the VSO's, from the day they left 161. No more nice roaring rides :P

  I always love the look on passengers' faces at the bus stop when the VSO roars away from it :)

  And the good aircon, unique smell, stability.. All too good :)

• SBS2601D

  31 Dec 09, 10:52

  You should see their faces when 7335P roars off.

  I still cannot believe there's any bus in SBST that's louder than this monster.

  I've heard KUBs roar....and none come as close to the B9TL's. Maybe the closest contender is the VSO....but even that is too faraway. Or maybe the occasional bumboat LO3X comes closer.

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 11:03

  Bumboat LO3X aren't that bad :P

  People also get shocked when 7404Z pulls its park brake.

• Yongjunzer

  31 Dec 09, 11:29

  sbs7341x is it good/

• Stage

  31 Dec 09, 11:53

  wooooo vso ftw. my favourite type of sbst ADD. ahaha (:

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 12:03

  Originally posted by Stage:

  wooooo vso ftw. my favourite type of sbst ADD. ahaha (:

  
  damn i love you. Lol

• Stage

  31 Dec 09, 12:34

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  damn i love you. Lol

  
  but i dont

• jayh272416

  31 Dec 09, 12:35

  Originally posted by SMB92U:

  'For an ear-piercing 'soothing' experience when on a B9TL, please do take my bus; SBS7381E. We'll guarantee to make you deaf!' - SBS7381E

  i took it FULL ROUTE

  its ok leh xD

• SBS7484P

  31 Dec 09, 12:57

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  but i dont

  
  aww :(

• sbs8104h

  31 Dec 09, 13:18

  Originally posted by Rk 2010:

  Not all 143 and 88 B9TLs vibrate badly. Have you even ride on 7496H and 7468P of 88, and 7361M and 7457X of 143? Well please try to evaluate the other serivce B9TLs before talking.

  im aware of the good B9TL's on the services that you mentioned. the topic is indeed B9TLs that vibrate badly. is it wrong to say out the one that i find vibrate badly?

• AEW5001

  31 Dec 09, 13:52

  Originally posted by SMB92U:

  'For an ear-piercing 'soothing' experience when on a B9TL, please do take my bus; SBS7381E. We'll guarantee to make you deaf!' - SBS7381E

  
  this statement is false n misleading

  there is no such problem today when i saw this bus

• AEW5001

  31 Dec 09, 13:53

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  I would think that VSO's are better maintained/sturdier than the Tridents and B9's. Engine roaring yes, that's common, but there are 'silent' B10TL's too.

  Axle problems, none that I've heard so far. The B10TL may be loud and have lousy acceleration, but it feels really sturdy compared to the fidgety Trident or the bumboat B9's.

  
  i believe VSOs have e best suspension in all SBST DDs around

• AEW5001

  31 Dec 09, 13:55

  SBS7453G

  only a/c gd.

• kelvintwt

  31 Dec 09, 14:34

  7360R best imo. lol.

• SMB92U

  31 Dec 09, 15:55

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  
  this statement is false n misleading

  there is no such problem today when i saw this bus

  I took it previously on 161 and the idling sound is horrible. Its not vibrative or jerking or some sort; its just the sound thats annoying.