[Hong Kong] Bus discussions / talks
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Originally posted by XiaoTaro:
KMB, NWFB, Citybus and MTR buses do not issue tickets for cash payment, neither do Hkisland trams. Of course if u are talking about the tourist services, H1 H2 buses and peak trams, those u will get a ticket for it.
Since tix are not issued for cash payment, how do the operators there check against underpayment of bus fares? -
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Since tix are not issued for cash payment, how do the operators there check against underpayment of bus fares?
HK bus fares are different from SG.
Their fare is more or less fixed for most routes[except tunnel routes]
So you board and pay a fix fare...
Tunnel routes would be cheaper once it has passed the segment...
Furthermore, there is only one "validator" when you board the bus, the BC is very alert and scans everyone who boards[most HKers will not cheat by nt tapping their octopus card]
KMB, NWFB, CTB BCs normally open one side of their entrance doors for boarding so ev1 has to queue to tap... -
Add on, most CTB buses are WAB with the sticker posted on their buses...
The Airport routes are WAB... -
KMB Wright Ecllipse Gemini on rt.104
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NWFB DT 3601 on rt.23A, note the headlights...
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
KMB Wright Ecllipse Gemini on rt.104
Soon get to see 150 of this model on Singapore roads, except without rear emergency exit door bah. Nicely taken.
Cheers.
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Originally posted by Scania96:
Do anyone have a vid on the KMB bus diversion, baby pram, seats advailable upstairs and bus spoilt annoucements? Thanks.
Baby pram notices are just stickers on NWFB.
There is no such thing as a upper deck counter for HK buses. at least I've not seen oone.
Bus spoilt announcements??/
Diversions? hmmm came close to one but just saw the notices at a MTR station on the bus diversions.
ZYX
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Since tix are not issued for cash payment, how do the operators there check against underpayment of bus fares?
a relevant question if u r taking the LRT though.
LRT is based on your own honesty in tapping in and out on the readers at the LRT stations. can buy ticket. Paper issued. For single trips only.
They got conductors carrying out checks on LRT trains but I've never seen one before.
Din know H1/H2 and the 15C issued tickets. maybe i shd try pay in cash.
Note there is no "not owning a Octopus Card" penalty . all fares are same in cash/card.
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Originally posted by SGCar:
Soon get to see 150 of this model on Singapore roads, except without rear emergency exit door bah. Nicely taken.
Cheers.
All the same details with Orange EDS?
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MTR unions 'reluctantly' accept pay rise 13-07-2010
Mass Transit Railway Corporation unions have accepted pay rises ranging from 1.1 to 3.3 percent, despite being unhappy with the offer. Union leaders say the salary increases don't even cover inflation, but they have reluctantly decided to accept after management promised to improve communications with employees. -
Govt 'lacks will' to stop bus pollution 13-07-2010
The chairwoman of Legco's Environmental Affairs panel, Audrey Eu, has accused the government of lacking the political will to solve air pollution problems caused by older buses. Ms Eu was commenting after a Legislative Council panel held discussions on a programme to replace older, more polluting buses. She maintained that the government can afford the HK$6-billion needed to help bus companies replace their older vehicles. -
HK$2.2m left in KMB buses by passengers 27-07-2010
Kowloon Motor Bus recovered HK$2.2 million in cash left behind by passengers on its fleet of buses last year. The company handles an average of over 2,000 lost property cases each month. Items range from mobile phones to wigs, and even vacuum cleaners. The top three ranking items are Octopus cards, cash and wallets. Around 60 percent of lost property items were returned to passengers last year, and over 80 percent of the cash was returned to owners. -
Octopus Card company's CEO denies lying 28-07-2010
The Chief Executive Officer of the Octopus Card company, Prudence Chan, has rejected accusations by lawmakers that she was lying when she denied selling the personal data of 1.9 million cardholders to third parties. Ms Chan had said earlier that the company had not sold any personal information of cardholders to anyone. But she later backtracked and admitted the company had earned HK$44 million by selling the data. Ms Chan insisted the company had adopted what she called a wrong definition of the word "selling".
Prudence Chan grilled by legislators who asked why she lied about selling Octopus card holders' data to third parties. Photo:RTHK The Deputy Chairman of the Legislative Council's Security Panel, Democrat James To, said he expects his colleagues to consider invoking special powers to investigate the Octopus Card company as the whole picture hasn't yet come out. He said the public would have a much clearer picture if the Legislative Council proceeds with an investigation, coupled with the results from three ongoing probes launched by the Privacy Commissioner, the Monetary Authority, and the company itself
Meanwhile, the Chief Executive, Donald Tsang, said the government was very concerned about the controversy surrounding the Octopus Card company. Mr Tsang, who's in Sichuan to oversee earthquake reconstruction work funded by Hong Kong, said he'd contacted the Privacy Commissioner and hoped the special hearing he's conducting would be able to find out what happened, and prevent a similar incident from happening again.
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Octopus should focus on core business 31-07-2010
The Chairman of Mass Transit Railway Corporation (MTRC), Raymond Chien, says the Octopus Card Company should focus its core business on providing smart cards to customers as a convenient electronic means for payment, and not on the selling the personal data of its cardholders. Speaking after a special board meeting of the MTRC, which is a majority shareholder of the card company, Mr Chien acknowledged the public's disappointment over company's selling of personal data of about two million cardholders to third parties for HK$44 million. He also said whether the Chief Executive Officer of the Octopus Card Company, Prudence Chan, should stay on was a matter for her company's board to decide. Ms Chan had come under heavy criticism for initially denying that the Octopus Card Company had sold its clients' personal data, only to reveal later that it had done so and earned the $44 million.
Earlier, the Privacy Commissioner, Roderick Woo, made a series of initial recommendations regarding the company's collection of personal data. He said it shouldn't require customers to give excessive personal information to join its rewards schemes. Mr Woo said the Commission would issue a final report at a later date.
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Western Harbour Tunnel hikes tolls 31-07-2010
Tolls for the Western Harbour Tunnel will be going up this Sunday. The charges for private cars, taxis and minibuses will increase by HK$5. Motorcyclists will have to pay HK$1 more. But double-decker buses will have to pay an additional HK$13. The government said it had urged the tunnel company to consider public affordability and acceptance before hiking the tolls. A spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Choi, said it was all the government's fault. -
Western Harbour Tunnel hikes tolls 31-07-2010
Tolls for the Western Harbour Tunnel will be going up this Sunday. The charges for private cars, taxis and minibuses will increase by HK$5. Motorcyclists will have to pay HK$1 more. But double-decker buses will have to pay an additional HK$13. The government said it had urged the tunnel company to consider public affordability and acceptance before hiking the tolls. A spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Choi, said it was all the government's fault. -
Eu urges faster action on buses 02-08-2010
The leader of the Civic Party, legislator Audrey Eu, says there should be a law to make it a crime for the government to hoard financial reserves and not put them to good use for the public. She pointed out that according to internet service Wikipedia, Hong Kong ranks seventh in the world for per capita income. But according the a global human resources consultant, Mercer, the territory ranks 71st in terms of quality of life for residents. Speaking on RTHK's "Letter to Hong Kong", Ms Eu said part of the reason for the disparity was the territory's dirty air. She said buses were a major polluter and the government should move faster to tackle the problem.
Ms Eu pointed out that the administration was planning a trial to see whether older buses could be fitted with devices to bring them up to more modern emission standards. But she said that even if a test run was successful, with the government's "usual time lag", it would be 2015 before the scheme could be fully implemented.
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Inquiry urged into Octopus card saga 03-08-2010
The Vice-Chairwoman of the Democratic Party, lawmaker Emily Lau, says the government and the Mass Transit Railway Corporation (MTRC) should not wait for legislators to act before investigating the sale of personal data by the Octopus Card Company. Ms Lau has called for the establishment of an independent inquiry into the sale by the smart card issuer. But she says even though the Legislative Council is sure to pursue its own inquiry, the government and the MTRC should act on their own as soon possible.
Ms Lau said she fears the Octopus saga is just the tip of the iceberg.
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is 3ASV447 (KT6487) the only VSO Volgren under S depot?
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Bus drivers plan action over pay 04-08-2010
About 2,000 Kowloon Motor Bus drivers are threatening to take industrial action next Monday if their demand for a 4 percent pay rise is not met. A KMB bus union spokesman, Eugene Wong, said the drivers would stage a work-to-rule if the company refuses to increase its offer of a 1.8 percent increase. Such action would involve waiting at a bus stop until all passengers were safely seated or standing, before moving off.
Mr Wong said drivers were also planning to stage a protest rally outside the company's headquarters on Friday. He added that the union was still open to negotiations, and he hoped the KMB management would respond.
Earlier a New World First Bus drivers' union said its members were planning to go on strike next Monday in support of their demand for a 2.2 percent pay rise.
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First Bus drivers threaten strike action 05-08-2010
A New World First Bus drivers' union says their strike will go ahead next Monday if their company fails to meet their demands over a pay rise. Union leaders met with management yesterday but emerged two hours later to say there'd been no breakthrough. The group's demanding a 2.2 percent pay increase but the bus company is sticking to its 1.8 percent offer. A spokesman for the union, Chung Chung-fai, said management would meet them again before the weekend. He said the drivers would not accept anything less than a 2.2 percent increase -
Octopus' CEO Prudence Chan resigns 05-08-2010
The Board of the Octopus card company has accepted the resignation of its Chief Executive Officer, Prudence Chan, following a public outcry over the company's selling of cardholders information to third parties for HK$44 million. But Ms Chan will stay on for another six months to aid various investigations and reviews into the privacy row. She'll be replaced by David Tang from Octopus' majority shareholder - the Mass Transit Railway Corporation - on an interim basis until a permanent replacement is found.
Prudence Chan steps down as CEO of the Octopus Card Company. Photo:Data Image The Chairman of the Octopus card company, Lincoln Leung, apologised for the anxiety the firm has caused its cardholders and pledged to review all the data it currently holds on them. Mr Leung also said the company will donate the HK$44 million, which it made from selling cardholders data, to the Community Chest of Hong Kong.
Earlier in the day, the Secretary for Financial Services and the Treasury, K.C. Chan, demanded the Octopus card company to take immediate steps to deal with its "management and corporate governance" issues.
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Since tix are not issued for cash payment, how do the operators there check against underpayment of bus fares?
memory..
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Octopus cardholders seek compensation 06-08-2010
Two Octopus cardholders have applied to the Small Claims Tribunal to seek compensation from the card issuer for selling their personal information. Wong Wing-kit and Li Wing-yee, both members of the Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood, want the Octopus card company to pay them HK$50 each
Octopus card holders seek compensation of 50 HK dollars each from Octopus Holdings. Photo:RTHK -
Bus drivers continue industrial action 10-08-2010
Industrial action by bus drivers will continue for a second day today, although the Transport Department said services were running pretty much as normal yesterday. New World First Bus drivers will strike again, while Citybus and KMB drivers will work-to-rule over their pay dispute. Yesterday, unions said a 2 percent pay rise could be considered, instead of the 2.2 percent they had been demanding. But New World First Bus said it was sticking to its 1.8 percent offer. The Secretary-General of the Confederation of Trade Unions, Lee Cheuk-yan, said he thought 2.2 percent was a very humble demand.
Transport officials say they will be liaising with the police and deploying staff at major roads and bus stations to monitor the traffic and transport situation today. Government chief transport officer Michael Ng said other public transport operators have been asked to strengthen services to minimise the impact of the action. He added that people should allow extra time for their journeys.