[Hong Kong] Bus discussions / talks
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hi everybody! =] a new member form HK
ya , we have got alot of E500 in hkof different bus companies already , KMB, CTB , NWFB , Long Win , MTR Feeder Bus Group(E).or even the CLP power staff bus also using the E500 , honestly the HK bus Fans feel very boring of any E500 , very very boring!!!
i've counted @ before The Enviro500 Trident fleet in HK , totally 393
the Enviro500 body of Volvo B9TL , totally 96
that's meaning totally 489 E500 in HK (include a batch of NWFB 11.3 M n most common 12 M version)
the First E500 introduced from KMB in 2003 , From The standard Euro 3 emission until now the KMB ATEU1 is using the Euro5 emission ISLe engine , also the exterior got 3 version already , so we feel very boring =0=
Luckily in the late of 2007 , MTRC had order a new batch 11 of ADL E200 Dart 11.3 M for the MTR Feeder Bus Group(W) to replaced the 17 years Mitsubishi MK117J , all of them had arrived in the 2008
this action let us feel excitant because we can see more ADL product in HK....not just only The E500 again , Also can continue
the legend product in HK ----- The ADL/Dennis Dart series ,
from 1990 introduced the first dennis Dart with traditional carlyle
body until to 1996 the first Dart SLF in HK and the dual dr of Dart SLF , and The Spuer Pointer Dart until now the E200 Dart
also becuz the Dart series , we can saw alot of different The Britain bosy manufacturer , for example the Marshall , NC , Carlyle , the most famous Plaxton Pointer
so , untill the late of 2008 v heard that KMB n CTB will introduce the E400 , Honestly i feel very very excited of this news , because v can c a British style product and famous British local product in HK again , although the HK and UK version got a little bit different
the B7RLE , honestly it's looks quite great , it just only got of them arrived in November , but after The E400 demos arrived , evryone was just focusing on the E400 n ignore the MCV B7RLE already ><''
in the following days , The full batch of B7RLE will be arrive , the E400 will entering service very soon , also there will got a new batch Of Wright Gemini MK2 body 3-axle Volvo B9TL arrive in 2010..
** it might be got some grammatical mistakes , hope all of the members excusal me
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Originally posted by XiaoTaro:
Erm, the vehicles are all limited to 70kph by speed limiters.
erm..that time is no speed limiters..plus some drivers can remove them......
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
hi everybody! =] a new member form HK
ya , we have got alot of E500 in hkof different bus companies already , KMB, CTB , NWFB , Long Win , MTR Feeder Bus Group(E).or even the CLP power staff bus also using the E500 , honestly the HK bus Fans feel very boring of any E500 , very very boring!!!
i've counted @ before The Enviro500 Trident fleet in HK , totally 393
the Enviro500 body of Volvo B9TL , totally 96
that's meaning totally 489 E500 in HK (include a batch of NWFB 11.3 M n most common 12 M version)
** it might be got some grammatical mistakes , hope all of the members excusal me
If you think E500s in HK are very common and boring, wait till u see the K230UBs in SG! There are about more than 850 of these same type of buses with the same bodywork (but different batches)! Thats twice the size of your fleet number of the E500s!
Anyway, welcome to singapore buses' forum! :) -
Originally posted by SMRT BUSES LuvER:
If you think E500s in HK are very common and boring, wait till u see the K230UBs in SG! There are about more than 850 of these same type of buses with the same bodywork (but different batches)! Thats twice the size of your fleet number of the E500s!
Anyway, welcome to singapore buses' forum! :)ya i know =] , i hv been to SG for two times , also i've shooted alot of SBS n SMRT vehicles , firstly i'm not deprecate SG's buses , but honestly its really boring in sg , O405 , B10M , K230 running whole island ...... when i back to hk , i feel apprecate that v hv got alot of buses already.....
recently , i've heard that SMRT purchase 66 unit of M-Benz Citaro Rigid , i really jealous about that , HK the new SD was just only the ADL E200 , MAN 12.240 , NL273R , Volvo B7RLE , Scania K230UB
also i jealous SG got alot of Articulated M-benz O405 ,
but HK The RD is too narrow so v can't introduce the Articulated Bus
but reversely to look it's also becuz HK got alot of different kind rd
so v need to using different of short buses.....
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Do a survey of no. of bus types in 1989 and 2009 and you'll know that the bus types in both HK and SG decreased a lot and thus making you guys feel bored.
However, for non-franchised (HK) or PA / PC / CB / PH (SG) market, I still feel the variety.
Unfortunately, SG has a rule to withdraw all buses reaching 20 years (both private and public), so it is impossible to find older buses in SG.
Referring to a view for "nice nice buses in HK", I feel that HK definitely have better d/d buses. But in terms of s/d, there is not much difference, except HK is purchasing B7RLE but SG is introducing Citaro! For cross border ones, SG probably wins (except B10Ms / CBC1632...).
I like the big variety and mixture of public and private buses in different cities, including Macau.
I hate the slow speed of SG buses. HK buses are not fast either.
Anthony Lui
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Originally posted by Anthony lui:
Do a survey of no. of bus types in 1989 and 2009 and you'll know that the bus types in both HK and SG decreased a lot and thus making you guys feel bored.
However, for non-franchised (HK) or PA / PC / CB / PH (SG) market, I still feel the variety.
Unfortunately, SG has a rule to withdraw all buses reaching 20 years (both private and public), so it is impossible to find older buses in SG.
Referring to a view for "nice nice buses in HK", I feel that HK definitely have better d/d buses. But in terms of s/d, there is not much difference, except HK is purchasing B7RLE but SG is introducing Citaro! For cross border ones, SG probably wins (except B10Ms / CBC1632...).
We do have a Volvo B7RLE fitted with Soon Chow body in Singapore that is a demo, SBS8030L in SBS Transit serving route 174. As for the cross border routes, SMRTB uses Mercedes O405s for Svc 950.
Probably the slow speed of SG buses may be due to the electronic speed limiter ... ...
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Originally posted by TIB1049L:
We do have a Volvo B7RLE fitted with Soon Chow body in Singapore that is a demo, SBS8030L in SBS Transit serving route 174. As for the cross border routes, SMRTB uses Mercedes O405s for Svc 950.
Probably the slow speed of SG buses may be due to the electronic speed limiter ... ...
Of course I know the existence of SBS8030L and the Sentosa examples, at least I have put on my page. I mean new batch of s/d are just low entry buses instead of full low floors. -
Originally posted by ZYX2005:
Hi all
new thread for discussions on Hong Kong buses. A specialised thread part of the overseas buses family.
So next time we should also have a Aussie bus thread and North American bus thread? I'm a fan of them, so do I get a thread for those?
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
for me, the best ride is on a ADD, on the peak route, BC choing 90-110 kph to the entire peak, the road winding, one side rock wall one side steep cliff, best is sit front row, more adrenaline rush than a roller coaster ride
how can a ADD have the power to choing 90-110kph on a uphill road to the peak? if that bus is really chiong at 90kph to the peak, i guess it will have crashed already..
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The road to The Peak has limits of 30 kph... Well, the sense of speed differs from everyone, but speed in excess of 60 would be impossible, even for a car, on those roads...
Expressway yes, straight and little grade.
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A good news on today of KMB's E400.....
today is a rainy+cloudy day in hk , about 15-17。
ADL(Far East Limtied Company) had already finished their lastest check-up repair in the temporary depot .....
today both of them(E400) had already handover to KMB n CTB
in the Depot which is in Lai Chi Kok n Chai Wan 。
Firstly , KMB inaugurate of The E400 with ADL Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Colin Robertson and KMB's Managing Director, Mr. He Dawen(Right)
News Archives from KMB's
also , CTB's E400 already got a vehicle code , with'' 7000 ''
but really sad that , KMB's E400 had already removed the E400 typical bullbar ><'' , really sad about that , i think kmb thought that the bullbar were unuseful
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the European Union fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned buses set of advanced environmental protection technology and intelligence facilities a
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the territory's first combination of the most advanced technology to raise the overall environmental, safety and layout of the EU's fifth-generation car 2-axle double deck buses air-conditioned environment for the development of Hong Kong's bus mileage open a new chapter.KMB EU's fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned green buses, in addition to the European Union adopts the most advanced fifth-generation environmentally-friendly engines, more importantly, the Department of Hong Kong's first two-axle double-deck design of air-conditioned buses. Two-axle double-decker bus fuel consumption than the three-axis design of the same type of bus is lower emissions has also fallen, is conducive to improving air quality.KMB EU's fifth-generation air-conditioned two-axle double-deck bus body length 10.5 meters environmental protection, appearance clean lines, very modern in style. Because it is two-axis design, inside is very spacious and comfortable, the lower position by on the bus until the last one before the row of seats is there any steps, to facilitate passengers. Inside other facilities, including the optimization of air-conditioning system, two plus two pink roses pattern high-back seats, straight staircase design, ultra-low-floor wheelchair ramps and wheelchair parking area infrastructure, and stop announcement systems, so that passengers can experience the comfort pleasant bus journey.
KMB spokesman said: "KMB spirit� 『with the spirit of the times, constantly introducing new technologies, so that bus operations more efficient, more environmentally friendly facilities, passenger journey derive greater comfort. This bus will include Hong Kong's Bus services into a higher level. " -
wow cool man! cant even beat our Vo2x or maybe our vo2x with air con
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
A good news on today of KMB's E400.....
today is a rainy+cloudy day in hk , about 15-17。
ADL(Far East Limtied Company) had already finished their lastest check-up repair in the temporary depot .....
today both of them(E400) had already handover to KMB n CTB
in the Depot which is in Lai Chi Kok n Chai Wan 。
Firstly , KMB inaugurate of The E400 with ADL Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Colin Robertson and KMB's Managing Director, Mr. He Dawen(Right)
News Archives from KMB's
also , CTB's E400 already got a vehicle code , with'' 7000 ''
but really sad that , KMB's E400 had already removed the E400 typical bullbar ><'' , really sad about that , i think kmb thought that the bullbar were unuseful
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the European Union fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned buses set of advanced environmental protection technology and intelligence facilities a
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the territory's first combination of the most advanced technology to raise the overall environmental, safety and layout of the EU's fifth-generation car 2-axle double deck buses air-conditioned environment for the development of Hong Kong's bus mileage open a new chapter.KMB EU's fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned green buses, in addition to the European Union adopts the most advanced fifth-generation environmentally-friendly engines, more importantly, the Department of Hong Kong's first two-axle double-deck design of air-conditioned buses. Two-axle double-decker bus fuel consumption than the three-axis design of the same type of bus is lower emissions has also fallen, is conducive to improving air quality.KMB EU's fifth-generation air-conditioned two-axle double-deck bus body length 10.5 meters environmental protection, appearance clean lines, very modern in style. Because it is two-axis design, inside is very spacious and comfortable, the lower position by on the bus until the last one before the row of seats is there any steps, to facilitate passengers. Inside other facilities, including the optimization of air-conditioning system, two plus two pink roses pattern high-back seats, straight staircase design, ultra-low-floor wheelchair ramps and wheelchair parking area infrastructure, and stop announcement systems, so that passengers can experience the comfort pleasant bus journey.
KMB spokesman said: "KMB spirit� 『with the spirit of the times, constantly introducing new technologies, so that bus operations more efficient, more environmentally friendly facilities, passenger journey derive greater comfort. This bus will include Hong Kong's Bus services into a higher level. "
Wow!!! Nice bus. LEDs at the front lights. -
Originally posted by bus555:
wow cool man! cant even beat our Vo2x or maybe our vo2x with air con
We have VO2X with aircon?
U say cool first then u say they cant beat our VO2X.lol.So which u are saying is the better over the other? -
ah nvm... btw do u know tt Long Win Bus Co. route S64P is like our Townlink/Inter-town feeders here?
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
A good news on today of KMB's E400.....
today is a rainy+cloudy day in hk , about 15-17。
ADL(Far East Limtied Company) had already finished their lastest check-up repair in the temporary depot .....
today both of them(E400) had already handover to KMB n CTB
in the Depot which is in Lai Chi Kok n Chai Wan 。
Firstly , KMB inaugurate of The E400 with ADL Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Colin Robertson and KMB's Managing Director, Mr. He Dawen(Right)
News Archives from KMB's
also , CTB's E400 already got a vehicle code , with'' 7000 ''
but really sad that , KMB's E400 had already removed the E400 typical bullbar ><'' , really sad about that , i think kmb thought that the bullbar were unuseful
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the European Union fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned buses set of advanced environmental protection technology and intelligence facilities a
KMB has spearheaded the introduction of the territory's first combination of the most advanced technology to raise the overall environmental, safety and layout of the EU's fifth-generation car 2-axle double deck buses air-conditioned environment for the development of Hong Kong's bus mileage open a new chapter.KMB EU's fifth-generation two-axle double-deck air-conditioned green buses, in addition to the European Union adopts the most advanced fifth-generation environmentally-friendly engines, more importantly, the Department of Hong Kong's first two-axle double-deck design of air-conditioned buses. Two-axle double-decker bus fuel consumption than the three-axis design of the same type of bus is lower emissions has also fallen, is conducive to improving air quality.KMB EU's fifth-generation air-conditioned two-axle double-deck bus body length 10.5 meters environmental protection, appearance clean lines, very modern in style. Because it is two-axis design, inside is very spacious and comfortable, the lower position by on the bus until the last one before the row of seats is there any steps, to facilitate passengers. Inside other facilities, including the optimization of air-conditioning system, two plus two pink roses pattern high-back seats, straight staircase design, ultra-low-floor wheelchair ramps and wheelchair parking area infrastructure, and stop announcement systems, so that passengers can experience the comfort pleasant bus journey.
KMB spokesman said: "KMB spirit� 『with the spirit of the times, constantly introducing new technologies, so that bus operations more efficient, more environmentally friendly facilities, passenger journey derive greater comfort. This bus will include Hong Kong's Bus services into a higher level. "The front of the bus looks cool.Wow the front door looks unique....
But the bus looks too short imo....Would look much better if it was the standard 12m version.
Haha alcoa rims
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
ya i know =] , i hv been to SG for two times , also i've shooted alot of SBS n SMRT vehicles , firstly i'm not deprecate SG's buses , but honestly its really boring in sg , O405 , B10M , K230 running whole island ...... when i back to hk , i feel apprecate that v hv got alot of buses already.....
recently , i've heard that SMRT purchase 66 unit of M-Benz Citaro Rigid , i really jealous about that , HK the new SD was just only the ADL E200 , MAN 12.240 , NL273R , Volvo B7RLE , Scania K230UB
also i jealous SG got alot of Articulated M-benz O405 ,
but HK The RD is too narrow so v can't introduce the Articulated Bus
but reversely to look it's also becuz HK got alot of different kind rd
so v need to using different of short buses.....
Yeah.Having 489 units of a same model is still very ok compared to having 900 same looking Gemilang K230s here.And we still dunno wat is the bodywork the upcoming 200 Scanias are using.If they are using Gemilang again,thats it.We will have 1100 same looking K230s here.Alr bus fans here are dying of boredom staring at 900 K230s every single day everywhere.Imagine how much more worse it will be having to look at 1100 K230s every single day.
Wow MAN SDs are really cool man.Here there is only the demo in SBST.Its the MAN 18.240 HOCL-NL.I am hoping that they will buy more of it one day but i think that wont be now since they have bought the 200 Scanias and 150 Wright B9s now.This 350 buses are supposed to arrive next year.
Yeah its really a huge surprise for us bus fans here that SMRT has bought Citaros.We seriously didnt expect them to be in Singapore so soon but nevertheless its still a pleasant surprise and a dream come true for us.
Actually SMRT is the operator here that buys the most nice nice buses most of the time.Haha.Like the Mercedez Benz O405G Hispano Habit Bendies which were designed from the same company as ferrari and so on....
Haha yeah thats one thing i like about Singapore.The mixtures of Bendies and DDs here.Like that got all 3 varieties and more nicer rather than all DDs and SDs only.Very boring like that.Haha. -
Originally posted by Anthony lui:
Do a survey of no. of bus types in 1989 and 2009 and you'll know that the bus types in both HK and SG decreased a lot and thus making you guys feel bored.
However, for non-franchised (HK) or PA / PC / CB / PH (SG) market, I still feel the variety.
Unfortunately, SG has a rule to withdraw all buses reaching 20 years (both private and public), so it is impossible to find older buses in SG.
Referring to a view for "nice nice buses in HK", I feel that HK definitely have better d/d buses. But in terms of s/d, there is not much difference, except HK is purchasing B7RLE but SG is introducing Citaro! For cross border ones, SG probably wins (except B10Ms / CBC1632...).
I like the big variety and mixture of public and private buses in different cities, including Macau.
I hate the slow speed of SG buses. HK buses are not fast either.
Anthony Lui
Yeah very true.In terms of DD fleets between Singapore and hk,hk has the numerous varieties of DDs.Ranging from Volvo to Scania to Neoplan,the list can go on and on.While Singapore's DD fleet seems to be more of like limited between Volvo with the small exceptions of the Dennis Tridents.
I seriously think hk pays more attention in bringing in more and more DDs rather than SDs thus the SD fleet being like the minority there?
But for the SD fleet in hk,i think there is nothing much.And i definitely think that the Singapore SD fleet is much better if compared to hk.Singapore got more varieties of SDs especially SMRT. -
Originally posted by Merczrox:
Yeah very true.In terms of DD fleets between Singapore and hk,hk has the numerous varieties of DDs.Ranging from Volvo to Scania to Neoplan,the list can go on and on.While Singapore's DD fleet seems to be more of like limited between Volvo with the small exceptions of the Dennis Tridents.
I seriously think hk pays more attention in bringing in more and more DDs rather than SDs thus the SD fleet being like the minority there?
But for the SD fleet in hk,i think there is nothing much.And i definitely think that the Singapore SD fleet is much better if compared to hk.Singapore got more varieties of SDs especially SMRT.ya , in hk the single decker are the minority
we can make a listFull size single decker:
CTB , NLB , DBTSL
MAN NL262R near 90 unit
NLB ,DBTSL , NEW HK BUS.co
MAN NL263R near 30 unit ( whatever with Gemliang body or original Caetano City Gold 2K body )
NLB , DBTSL
MAN NL273R near 15 unit
KMB , LWB
Dennis Lance(Alexander PS) near 28 unit
KMB
Scania K230UB 12M 23 unit
KMB , NEW HK BUS.co
Volvo B7RLE near 45 unit
DBTSL
Mercedes-Benz O405 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN 18.280 (City Bus chassis) 1 unit
MTR
Volvo B10M-55 15 unit
NEW HK BUS CO.
Scania L94UB 3 unit
medium and mini buses
KMB , MTR
Mitsubishi MK117J near 200 unit
KMB
Mitsubishi MK217J near 15 unit
KMB , CTB , NEW HK BUS CO. , MTR
Dennis Dart near 90 unit
KMB , NWFB , DBTSL , NLB
Dennis Dart SLF near 45 unit
PITSL
Transbus Dennis Super Pointer Dart near 15 unit
MTR
ADL E200 Dart 11 unit
CTB , NLB
Volvo B6/B6LE near 30 unit
KMB
Scania K230UB 10.6m 20 unit
DBTSL
MAN 12.220(City Bus chassis) 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN NM223 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN 14.240 (City Bus chassis) 2 unit
DBTSL
Mercedes Benz O814D 2 unit
so u can compare SIN n HK how different on the amount and different kind model....
also becuz hk the road environment so v can introduce to much full size SDs , according this List u can c v got alot of medium Size SDs
but honestly , @ that that two times i went to SIN
i've got a conclusion
'' SINGAPORE bus servive still get a improvement interspace ''
but i'm not deprecate on these things , just a opinion
how come the buses always full? still using the SDs with a not high frequency
how come intorduce The K230UB this cheap n third-rate chassis be the main fleet , the last platoon of the seat is too high (totally 4-5 stepsfrom the exit) The best of a city bus chassis is the SLF bus
how come the name call express service just via so little highway oe expressway ? yr mane is express , but via too much city/town area , not really express (in my opinion , i've take 502 n 518 as before)
the fast foward svc is the most stupid measure
The regular departure after a little bit traffic jam it might be hit the fast foward departure , so stupid @@
the buses of SBS exterior some part were broke and sunken still in svc also the engine sound is noisy , especially the O405 and VO2X
the interior of the buses can using the warmer light ,
SBS / SMRT can operate some point to point Expressway Bus service
it's really attractive for the Office guy @ am/pm peak hr.s
the Expressway Bus service got a long history in HK already
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
KMB WABs have the wheelchair ramp at the front all the while, if i'm not wrong.
KMB, NWFB, CTB all ve wheelchair ramp infront so does other ctries, SG is the UNIQUE to have it at the rear
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Originally posted by Anthony lui:
Do a survey of no. of bus types in 1989 and 2009 and you'll know that the bus types in both HK and SG decreased a lot and thus making you guys feel bored.
However, for non-franchised (HK) or PA / PC / CB / PH (SG) market, I still feel the variety.
Unfortunately, SG has a rule to withdraw all buses reaching 20 years (both private and public), so it is impossible to find older buses in SG.
Referring to a view for "nice nice buses in HK", I feel that HK definitely have better d/d buses. But in terms of s/d, there is not much difference, except HK is purchasing B7RLE but SG is introducing Citaro! For cross border ones, SG probably wins (except B10Ms / CBC1632...).
I like the big variety and mixture of public and private buses in different cities, including Macau.
I hate the slow speed of SG buses. HK buses are not fast either.
Anthony Lui
HK buses run more smoothly, accelerate faster, brake is more responsively than SG buses...
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
ya i know =] , i hv been to SG for two times , also i've shooted alot of SBS n SMRT vehicles , firstly i'm not deprecate SG's buses , but honestly its really boring in sg , O405 , B10M , K230 running whole island ...... when i back to hk , i feel apprecate that v hv got alot of buses already.....
recently , i've heard that SMRT purchase 66 unit of M-Benz Citaro Rigid , i really jealous about that , HK the new SD was just only the ADL E200 , MAN 12.240 , NL273R , Volvo B7RLE , Scania K230UB
also i jealous SG got alot of Articulated M-benz O405 ,
but HK The RD is too narrow so v can't introduce the Articulated Bus
but reversely to look it's also becuz HK got alot of different kind rd
so v need to using different of short buses.....
Oh well, Hi :D
I really wanted to get over to HK and try at the buses over there. Coz of the large variety of buses and bus companies over there, ADE500, E400, E200 Dart, VSO, DT, LO and VO and etc etc etc.
Singapore is really getting lag of those Scania K230UB especially with ONE THOUSAND AND ONE HUNDRED plain Gemilang and plain Scania K230UBs in Singapore although one by one there are little improvements. And yes, your eyes weren't wrong, 1100 K230UBs in Singapore. Get a heck of how they power, jerk and vibrate.
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
ya , in hk the single decker are the minority
we can make a listFull size single decker:
CTB , NLB , DBTSL
MAN NL262R near 90 unit
NLB ,DBTSL , NEW HK BUS.co
MAN NL263R near 30 unit ( whatever with Gemliang body or original Caetano City Gold 2K body )
NLB , DBTSL
MAN NL273R near 15 unit
KMB , LWB
Dennis Lance(Alexander PS) near 28 unit
KMB
Scania K230UB 12M 23 unit
KMB , NEW HK BUS.co
Volvo B7RLE near 45 unit
DBTSL
Mercedes-Benz O405 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN 18.280 (City Bus chassis) 1 unit
MTR
Volvo B10M-55 15 unit
NEW HK BUS CO.
Scania L94UB 3 unit
medium and mini buses
KMB , MTR
Mitsubishi MK117J near 200 unit
KMB
Mitsubishi MK217J near 15 unit
KMB , CTB , NEW HK BUS CO. , MTR
Dennis Dart near 90 unit
KMB , NWFB , DBTSL , NLB
Dennis Dart SLF near 45 unit
PITSL
Transbus Dennis Super Pointer Dart near 15 unit
MTR
ADL E200 Dart 11 unit
CTB , NLB
Volvo B6/B6LE near 30 unit
KMB
Scania K230UB 10.6m 20 unit
DBTSL
MAN 12.220(City Bus chassis) 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN NM223 2 unit
DBTSL
MAN 14.240 (City Bus chassis) 2 unit
DBTSL
Mercedes Benz O814D 2 unit
so u can compare SIN n HK how different on the amount and different kind model....
also becuz hk the road environment so v can introduce to much full size SDs , according this List u can c v got alot of medium Size SDs
but honestly , @ that that two times i went to SIN
i've got a conclusion
'' SINGAPORE bus servive still get a improvement interspace ''
but i'm not deprecate on these things , just a opinion
how come the buses always full(1)? still using the SDs with a not high frequency
how come intorduce The K230UB this cheap n third-rate(2) chassis be the main fleet , the last platoon of the seat is too high (totally 4-5 stepsfrom the exit) The best of a city bus chassis is the SLF bus
how come the name call express service just via so little highway oe expressway ? yr mane is express , but via too much city/town area , not really express (in my opinion , i've take 502 n 518 as before)
the fast foward svc is the most stupid measure(3)
The regular departure after a little bit traffic jam it might be hit the fast foward departure , so stupid @@
the buses of SBS exterior some part were broke and sunken still in svc(4) also the engine sound is noisy , especially the O405 and VO2X
the interior of the buses can using the warmer light ,
SBS / SMRT can operate some point to point Expressway Bus service
it's really attractive for the Office guy @ am/pm peak hr.s
the Expressway Bus service got a long history in HK already(5)
1) I agree, sometimes SBST have to really improve in the intervals and frequency of the trips, even at my area have 3 bus services starting from the interchange and goes to the same bus stop where I alight together(the route to my house area is the same), I ever tried on Townlink 293, I have to wait for 10-15 minutes for the bus to arrive, worst, it came a single decker, E4 Batch 2 K230UB.
2)If K230s are cheap and third-rate, why did SBST and KMB bought them in the first place?
3)FastForward service does improve the service itself. Try taking FastForward 30e next time you come to Singapore. It plies Harbourfront to Bedok. The trip can take you about less than 1hour then the normal svc 30 1+hour.
4)I understand that, it's the cause of the bus depot if they wan be hardworking anot. Somehow BNDEP and SLBP(Bedok Nth and Soon Lee bus depot respectively) got a
by bus fans here because of bus mantaining and Leyland Olympians -_-"5) Try taking some Premium services in Singapore. It serves the AM peak with only single trips. Although it cannot beat MRTs, at least you can travel without having to squeeze and squeeze on the bus. But the trip itself can go as high as two trips of MRT. Ranging from $3~$5 from SBST Premium bus services to SMRT to private ones. From what I observe is that sometimes the Premium Bus Services doesn't really help in the bus trips from what I saw and say from two trips of Premium 553 which serves my house.
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Originally posted by ADL E200Dart:
ya , in hk the single decker are the minority
we can make a list
You should either count KMB+LWB+NWFB+CTB+NLB (franchised buses only), and you should only count buses registered under franchise, i.e. training buses, CTB19, 179, 1... should not be included.If you include DBTSL, you should include all other non-franchised bus companies including Kwoon Chung, MTRC, Red Cross, Keung Kee, CUHK, HKU, HK Electric, CLP Power, Wing Yip, Sing HIng, CTS, Eternal East, Cherry, HAS, TMCA, HIT...
And for those in SG, the same principle should also apply, say SG-Johor Express, Tong Par, Woodlands Transport, Sentosa, Bus Plus (part of SMRT), Yellow School Bus, Gullimard...
Then, single deckers would become MAJORITY in both cities.:)
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
KMB, NWFB, CTB all ve wheelchair ramp infront so does other ctries, SG is the UNIQUE to have it at the rear
Definitely NOT.Wheelchair ramps at the middle door:
NWFB 33XX, CTB 2100, 2112-2161, Red Cross B7RLE?...
Plus some are as ugly as SG that no ramp is installed (some retrofitted)
Most non-step buses in Japan have ramps in the middle.
Short front overhang MAN also do. e.g. NM283