Redeployment rumours for 2010
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Originally posted by Blackerol:
I will certainly agree that WLDEP is too far from Bt Batok Int. But for 190, it is just 4 bus from AMDEP. Not much difference. For svc 67, I also feel that Tampines Int is also quite far away from AMDEP. It should be full control by KJDEP.
KJDEP to TMI is 28.4km
AMDEP to TMI is 16km
So AMDEP to Tampines is further than KJDEP to Tampines in your opinion? There will be a lot of dead running if KJDEP fully controls 67.
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It's quite far though, from Tampines to AMK.
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
It's quite far though, from Tampines to AMK.
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I dun think that WLDEP is too far away from Bt Panjang.Sometimes its the space of parking.Probably 700 stays for KJDEP where 184 will be handed to WLDEP.190 AMDEP 3 duties does not make any difference.AMDEP to Tampines int is nearer FYI,I've ever drive both 67 and 969.AMDEP-SLE-TPE you can reach Tampines under 30mins where for KJDEP to Tampines takes more than 45mins.I feel its redundant for 171 to have WLDEP part control.Its better if WLDEP takes 5-6 duties for 851 instead.178 and 187 i can understand there's need fo KJDEP to start at Boon Lay.
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
AM to Tampines is the nearest liao lah... 29 mins off service runtime.because got SLE then more faster
what about Eunos and Bedok etc? no SLEs, have to go long distance
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
because got SLE then more faster
what about Eunos and Bedok etc? no SLEs, have to go long distance
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I dun think that WLDEP is too far away from Bt Panjang.Sometimes its the space of parking.Probably 700 stays for KJDEP where 184 will be handed to WLDEP.190 AMDEP 3 duties does not make any difference.AMDEP to Tampines int is nearer FYI,I've ever drive both 67 and 969.AMDEP-SLE-TPE you can reach Tampines under 30mins where for KJDEP to Tampines takes more than 45mins.I feel its redundant for 171 to have WLDEP part control.Its better if WLDEP takes 5-6 duties for 851 instead.178 and 187 i can understand there's need fo KJDEP to start at Boon Lay.
190 can go D-depot control, but not Bukit Panjang services though
920,922 i can understand
i dont see any point in panjang services being controlled by WL
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Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
will sv156 be full hgdep?
a big no.
It would be very tiring to go back from Clementi to Hougang
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Pity those AMDEP SLs,Have to go far away from home ground to start or end work. At least for KJ side they're nearer to BBT,BPJ,CCK @ BNL.WL side near to WDL,BPJ,SBW and YIS too where AM side have to start or change shift at Lor 1,Eunos,Bedok,Tampines,MCT,The nearest is YIS and SBW.Well cant do much either as they got the smallest depot in Singapore.I feel that AM an kope 1 bendy from 800@812 each and replace them with OCs for 171
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Another option is too loop 77 and 106 at Marina Ctr,then the AM 106 bendies can deply on 171 then.. WLDEP can squeeze to almost 346 buses,AMDEP can manage only 164 while KJDEP can do 189,Yishun Int 70 the most and BBT manage 52.I hope that WLD int can do some overnight parking too.
Darryl which one is far,WLDEP to MCT,KJDEP to MCT or AMDEP to MCT?Dunno why they need to AM to take 4 duties for 106
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Another option is too loop 77 and 106 at Marina Ctr,then the AM 106 bendies can deply on 171 then.. WLDEP can squeeze to almost 346 buses,AMDEP can manage only 164 while KJDEP can do 189,Yishun Int 70 the most and BBT manage 52.I hope that WLD int can do some overnight parking too.
Darryl which one is far,WLDEP to MCT,KJDEP to MCT or AMDEP to MCT?Dunno why they need to AM to take 4 duties for 106
AMDEP to MCT is 16.3km
WLDEP to MCT is 26.2km
KJDEP to MCT is 24.7km
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Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
will sv156 be full hgdep?
If that is the case 109 should be full HGDEP too
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Heard from 2 guys at SMRT buses that there are numbers of redeployment fro year 2010 from February onwards.One is reliable another is just a Senior SL.Anyway i just treat it as RUMOURS as it's not yet official
S960:3 or 4 WLDEP duties will be given to AMDEP.
S75:3 KJDEP duties will be given to AMDEP.Hmm first time AMDEP SLs in Bt Panjang Interchange.
S184:Same as 700/A.
S178 @ S187 will be dual control by both WLDEP @ KJDEP with WLDEP is the biggest controller.Hmm maybe KJDEP start first bus from BNL?
S855:Plans to put perm S shift bendies.
Note:Nothing is confirmed till further notice
960 - Interesting if its true,
but AMDEP might not put good buses on 960. 
75 - Dennis Lance on 75
184 - Back to WLDEP days.
178/187 - Nothing to say.
855 - HBF Int will have bendies spam.
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
i don't think it would be a good idea, look, if 700 and 184 goes back to Woodlands it would be just far, whereas Kranji is near.
i dun think u noe something called BKE + KJE. i always see the WL buses off svc-ing to BPJ by this route b4 the major redeployments last year.
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
It's possible to take 1 or 2 supp. from S851. I find that a few of the bendies are running half-empty buses from BMR northbound during critical AM peak hours when they should be operating the other direction instead. By the time they reach YIS to operate another trip out the morning crowd would have turned smaller.deadheading is a waste of fuel such that supp trips are not recommended unless the return trip's load is less than a tenth of the heavier direction. since they have to come back to yishun, just let them come back by normal revenue service with a tighter running time matched with the loading.
the best way would be to just add a bus on 171 or arrange the supp trip from a YII feeder after having taken care of 10-minute ruling, which means it should be back to supp sometime between 7.20am to 8am, where a three-quarter shift can take over the YII feeder from there or by other methods of headway adjustment.
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Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
will sv156 be full hgdep?
better not be.
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
190 can go D-depot control, but not Bukit Panjang services though
920,922 i can understand
i dont see any point in panjang services being controlled by WL
Before this BPJ is jointly control by WL and KJ what,Both depot are nearer to BPJ.KJDEP cant control all BPJ services as they also face parking problems like AMDEP.For 960 AM side i reckon its the 190 AM fleets will take over if this i true.For 75 maybe 61/67/985 rigids from AM duties will be reduced,Many possiblities.AMDEP can control as much services as they want provided its just a minority control ie like 106,AM side to supplement the first bus loading from MCT to BBT,Quite useful i must say.For 852 to be dual WL and KJ also got reasons.WL is nearer to YIS as they do not need to off service a few buses for the 1st bus timing to BBT.KJ can take that role.Its been a long time since KJDEP SLs came to YIS btw.Another reasons is there are many standby SLs mostly Chinaman/women in all depot.Rather than just stanby in nearby Interchange this is also a good move by the management to overcome wastage of manpower.Heard that nowadays many standby are w/o service duty,Everday sure got an average 4-6 SLs learn service.
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If 178 and 187 its a bit redundant as WLDEP OS to BNL are not too far either or probably WLDEP face parking woes too.Sometimes i would see 5-7 buses parked outside WLDEP at night.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Before this BPJ is jointly control by WL and KJ what,Both depot are nearer to BPJ.KJDEP cant control all BPJ services as they also face parking problems like AMDEP.For 960 AM side i reckon its the 190 AM fleets will take over if this i true.For 75 maybe 61/67/985 rigids from AM duties will be reduced,Many possiblities.AMDEP can control as much services as they want provided its just a minority control ie like 106,AM side to supplement the first bus loading from MCT to BBT,Quite useful i must say.For 852 to be dual WL and KJ also got reasons.WL is nearer to YIS as they do not need to off service a few buses for the 1st bus timing to BBT.KJ can take that role.Its been a long time since KJDEP SLs came to YIS btw.Another reasons is there are many standby SLs mostly Chinaman/women in all depot.Rather than just stanby in nearby Interchange this is also a good move by the management to overcome wastage of manpower.Heard that nowadays many standby are w/o service duty,Everday sure got an average 4-6 SLs learn service.
In what ways near?
BPJ isnt anywhere near WL, infact Kranji is the only one nearest.
75 wont recommend DD controls, not worth it
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
It's possible to take 1 or 2 supp. from S851. I find that a few of the bendies are running half-empty buses from BMR northbound during critical AM peak hours when they should be operating the other direction instead. By the time they reach YIS to operate another trip out the morning crowd would have turned smaller.
one way to make these early peak bendies to capture crowd is to let them operate the first few cars from Yishun so that they would be in time to capture the morning crowd when they reach back yishun off service for another trip to townor maybe some crazy idea say... cross to 106 from Buona vista downroute to town, or cross to 176 for a trip to bt panjang (not sure about demand for this though..)
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Originally posted by TIB657M:
But KJDEP has many SP OCs.Maybe can exchange with O405s for OCs for WLDEP 171 side in order to increase strength of WAB.
WLDEP 11 OCs might start off on 171, even the perm TRG SMB134H. :)
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
960 - Interesting if its true, but AMDEP might not put good buses on 960. SMB135E on 960 :)
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
In what ways near?
BPJ isnt anywhere near WL, infact Kranji is the only one nearest.
75 wont recommend DD controls, not worth it
Eh you driving or ride?If you drive then you should know that WLDEP is nearer to BPJ rather than BBT.Of course KJDEP is slightly nearer but do you think KJDEP can manage to park all the BPJ services in KJDEP?In the first place why do they need overnight parking at BBT?Its due to no available parking lots for several buses.Why the reasons that 856,852,857 is under WLDEP although they start shift in YIS?Because AMDEP is too small to handle all the Yis services.Guess you take a look at all SMRT Depots after 12.30am and you will understand better.If 106 can be under AM minority control i dun see why they cant handle 3 duties after they left 190.Economical reasons is one thing.Imagine kjdep services os all the way from KJ to MCT.At least a few AM duties will relief some burden there.
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Originally posted by service_238:
one way to make these early peak bendies to capture crowd is to let them operate the first few cars from Yishun so that they would be in time to capture the morning crowd when they reach back yishun off service for another trip to townor maybe some crazy idea say... cross to 106 from Buona vista downroute to town, or cross to 176 for a trip to bt panjang (not sure about demand for this though..)
Thats what I wish for too leh... because the first few trips from Yishun all A/P slots, and A/P all taken up by OC. -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
Heard from 2 guys at SMRT buses that there are numbers of redeployment fro year 2010 from February onwards.One is reliable another is just a Senior SL.Anyway i just treat it as RUMOURS as it's not yet official
S173:Given back to KJDEP
S190:3 AMDEP duties will be given back to KJDEP.Back to old times.Full KJDEP control.
S75:3 KJDEP duties will be given to AMDEP.Hmm first time AMDEP SLs in Bt Panjang Interchange.
S700/A:All KJDEP duties will be given back to WLDEP.
S184:Same as 700/A.
S178 @ S187 will be dual control by both WLDEP @ KJDEP with WLDEP is the biggest controller.Hmm maybe KJDEP start first bus from BNL?
Note:Nothing is confirmed till further notice
My opinions:
Service 173:
- May become a WAB svc after getting x-fered.Service 190:
- Its a good idea to have 190 to be fully under KJDEP. AMDEP is just too far away from 190. But can say goodbye to 1042E, 1177A & 634D as those three are under AMDEP.Service 75:
- SP OCs from AMDEP might become perm for 75 and may become a WAB if KJDEP decides to throw the OCs to 75.Service 700/700A & 184:
- I feel that WLDEP is better at controlling these two svcs as it can supply many bendies for 700/700A in AM/PM peak rather than just 2 - 3 bendies. Same goes to 184.Service 178:
- Its about time to have 178 to be partially under KJDEP control. Expect to see DAF on 178 as regular cameos that is similar to 925/927.Service 187:
- Since most of the perm ELBOs & Striders kena kicked out from 187, i think tht KJDEP OC might replace those buses and thus becoming a WAB svc just like 172.