From your observations, which are the services that usually travel very fast (tight schedule), and which services usually move like tortoise on the road (long timing schedule)?
Take note that im not talking abt specific BC's driving speed, but about services that travel fast or slow in general.
From my observation as a passenger and as a BC while on the road :
Services that travels really fast: 14, 24, 26, 27, 36, 39, 63, 66(super tight schedule), 78, 80, 99, 143, 161, 168, 502(always wanting to overtake other services along orchard) and most SMRT services.
Services that travels slow: 19 during off peak, 23, 30 during daytime offpeak, 31 along marine parade n bedok south, 38 especially aft 10pm, 42, 60 during morning offpeak, 65, 70 along nicholl highway, 89, 196 on weekends, 197, 335, 506 if no jams on PIE.
What do you guys think? Hope i'm not starting a potential flame thread :)
My opinion:
SMRT buses have tighter schedules than SBST services.
I dun agree 14, 36, 63, 66 fast leh. Like quite slow also.
119 morning ok, afternoon till end of svc slow as hell
2693M ytd didnt get out of 1st gear at all.. all the way from kovan stn till sengkang int.. this was at ard 2.30pm.
66 who bus u take, CNG dun nid to say
btw, 196 speed is okay
Originally posted by SBS7484P:2693M ytd didnt get out of 1st gear at all.. all the way from kovan stn till sengkang int.. this was at ard 2.30pm.
wad time did it arrive at SKT?
Originally posted by Junyang700:SMRT buses have tighter schedules than SBST services.
No. That's a fact.
39 is horribly slow. Possibly one of the slowest expressway-plying services...
Originally posted by n4l:39 is horribly slow. Possibly one of the slowest expressway-plying services...
i once take a strider at 55 kph full trip
anyway, i feel that the pick-up speed of ALL buses in singapore are not as fast as that of hong kong. they pick up fast enough, without the sudden jerk that will throw standees off their balance. not sure if it's singapore legal limitations or cultural difference.
i noticed that sv156 BCs are given A LOT of time to travel from Holland Rd to Clementi Int. Always notice this in the mornings.
Originally posted by n4l:39 is horribly slow. Possibly one of the slowest expressway-plying services...
I once took it from Tampines at 9.30pm, and it ran at 80 km/h on average along TPE. =X
All SBS quite slow during the daytime.... 72 quite slow too.
sv 98 also fast.
179 super fast, very tight schedule.
Once took sv 29 , BC rode at 55KPH.
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:anyway, i feel that the pick-up speed of ALL buses in singapore are not as fast as that of hong kong. they pick up fast enough, without the sudden jerk that will throw standees off their balance. not sure if it's singapore legal limitations or cultural difference.
I've heard from some colleagues saying that the pick-up speed of SBST buses are tightened due to safety concerns. Not sure how true. But SMRT buses have better pick-up than SBST. Most of the time if a SBST and a SMRT bus are side by side at a traffic light, the SMRT bus can easily run ahead of the SBST bus when they move off, even when SBST bus is at full acceleration.
I'm not sure about hong kong buses. Is it better than SMRT buses?
Originally posted by Double_Decker:From your observations, which are the services that usually travel very fast (tight schedule), and which services usually move like tortoise on the road (long timing schedule)?
Take note that im not talking abt specific BC's driving speed, but about services that travel fast or slow in general.
From my observation as a passenger and as a BC while on the road :
Services that travels really fast: 14, 24, 26, 27, 36, 39, 63, 66(super tight schedule), 78, 80, 99, 143, 161, 168, 502(always wanting to overtake other services along orchard) and most SMRT services.
Services that travels slow: 19 during off peak, 23, 30 during daytime offpeak, 31 along marine parade n bedok south, 38 especially aft 10pm, 42, 60 during morning offpeak, 65, 70 along nicholl highway, 89, 196 on weekends, 197, 335, 506 if no jams on PIE.
What do you guys think? Hope i'm not starting a potential flame thread :)
197 SUPER SLOW.
Originally posted by Y_Shun:All SBS quite slow during the daytime.... 72 quite slow too.
Actually from my experience in driving SBST buses, the acceleration of the buses seem to be better when temperature of the surroundings is lower. Therefore, i realise acceleration is better during early mornings, at night, and on rainy weathers. Im not sure how true. Some of the colleagues i've spoken to dont seem to agree with me.
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:anyway, i feel that the pick-up speed of ALL buses in singapore are not as fast as that of hong kong. they pick up fast enough, without the sudden jerk that will throw standees off their balance. not sure if it's singapore legal limitations or cultural difference.
I think HK buses go at 80km/h for expressways.... 60km/hr for normal routes.
Originally posted by Double_Decker:From your observations, which are the services that usually travel very fast (tight schedule), and which services usually move like tortoise on the road (long timing schedule)?
Take note that im not talking abt specific BC's driving speed, but about services that travel fast or slow in general.
From my observation as a passenger and as a BC while on the road :
Services that travels really fast: 14, 24, 26, 27, 36, 39, 63, 66(super tight schedule), 78, 80, 99, 143, 161, 168, 502(always wanting to overtake other services along orchard) and most SMRT services.
Services that travels slow: 19 during off peak, 23, 30 during daytime offpeak, 31 along marine parade n bedok south, 38 especially aft 10pm, 42, 60 during morning offpeak, 65, 70 along nicholl highway, 89, 196 on weekends, 197, 335, 506 if no jams on PIE.
What do you guys think? Hope i'm not starting a potential flame thread :)
Ranking of speed and hiongness at my area:
502 > 187> 99> 98> 198> 334 >157 > 185> 335
39 is pretty okay, teh KUBs tend to scream along SLE/TPE.
Most chiong-able services at or near my house
856 (No need say liao) , 882, 980, 161 (I miss 9845X, chiong along SLE nice engine sound), 178 (Striders now cannot chiong, haizzzz).
Originally posted by Junyang700:I think HK buses go at 80km/h for expressways.... 60km/hr for normal routes.
not just for expressway. it feels faster moving out/away from a bus stop. especially on a long route like 61, the slowness of pickup will make your blood boil.
how come no one say about 74?
Originally posted by Double_Decker:\
Actually from my experience in driving SBST buses, the acceleration of the buses seem to be better when temperature of the surroundings is lower. Therefore, i realise acceleration is better during early mornings, at night, and on rainy weathers. Im not sure how true. Some of the colleagues i've spoken to dont seem to agree with me.
this is quite true... when the air is cooler than normal by 3 to 5 deg C, there is better combustion in the engines without resulting in a higher operating temperature and thus, engine operation is more efficient which explains the better acceleration.
and somehow or rather, sbst really tends to tighten the acceleration thru means of controlling the fuel intake into the engine.. b9tl discussion mentioned that b4? o.o [besides 'safe', also can save cost? -.-] but nontheless, the more 'torquey' models such as LO3X still do manage to produce good acceleration + climbing power despite such setbacks.
and indeed, many in the SMRT fleet do have better pickup compared to that of SBST.. among the pre-wab models, Lances somehow beats others hands-down in terms of acceleration.