Past bus routes and deployment
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
what about before TPDEP. where was SBS HQ located?
i hope someone can answer this question here
before the big hoo hah about the opening of SBS HQ in the early 80s i think, where was SBS HQ located?
i have heard from some older peeps it is King Albert Park Bus Depot (KAPDEP) .all i know is this so called KAPDEP belonged to some Chinese Bus Co .
ZYX
Previously it was at 50 MacKenzie Road (formerly used by STC). -
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
Those MK2s from 170 spreaded across the island. Even bndep got a share of it, but majority of he bndep MK2s went over to slbp in the end.107 received MK2s from amdep as well, other than 125 186.
some of the ex-sv 170 buses went at ARBP. SBS1872U and SBS1876J are two examples. -
ex-sv 190 VO3x (Batch 3), SBS9601H-SBS9604A went to service 14. SBS9601H was later deployed to service 7.
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
ex-sv 190 VO3x (Batch 3), SBS9601H-SBS9604A went to service 14. SBS9601H was later deployed to service 7.
Do you have any idea what happened to the VOs on 61 after handover?
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Originally posted by Rk 2010:
Do you have any idea what happened to the VOs on 61 after handover?
those ex- sv 61 VO3x are distributed to different svcs like: 80, 82, 85, 87, 132 & 147 for HGDEP and sv 7, 14, 65, 165 for BBDEP.
an example given:
SBS9653H - SBS9659S were from HGDEP 61 went to HGDEP 82 after the handover of 61 to TIBS.
SBS9611D was from BBDEP 61 went to do 65 after 61 given to TIBS -
Originally posted by Rk 2010:
Do you have any idea what happened to the VOs on 61 after handover?
I remember 61 had 9213U - 9224M series. I think even though it had the consecutive regoes, but in between the regos were buses from bbdep, hgdep didn't take the entire series for 61 alone. I am wondering were those buses shift from hgdep to bbdep in the beginning.9213U came to bndep from hgdep.
9214S 9216L 9217J were from bbdep.
9215P 9219D 9220Z went to amdep from hgdep.
9218G 9222T 9223R 9224M retained in hgdep. 9224M went to bndep in 2003.
9221X I've got no idea. I thought it went amdep.
That time hgdep bndep and bbdep were shifting around Volvos.
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
SBS9611D was from BBDEP 61 went to do 65 after 61 given to TIBS
Nope. 9611D was never perm 65. I only recall 9610G as perm for a decade already. -
Originally posted by SBS9364S:
BNDEP 32 got some of the NAC MK2 permers after converting back to PAC service. One of it was: SBS1711DIs it something to do with the introduction of ARBP 48?
Add-on:
SBS1753E x-fered to ARBP from AMDEP.
1711B
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Originally posted by SBS1984E:
1711B
1701E 1702C 1711B1701E 1702C 1753E from bndep and amdep transferred to hgdep, and were replaced by 3573U 3574S 3580Z respectively. 1711B was the last NAC Mark 2 under bndep. 1711B and its batch of Mark 2s that were due for deregisteration in July 2007 were extended by a week.
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mark 2s when brand new
they were mostly given to BBDEP and HGDEP. (HGDEP recived amny mark 2 DMs)
By then the 1xxx part of the rego do not mean naything leow. essentially it would had been better if they had called a few mark 2s 25xx after the O305 to sdignify HGDEp orgins. but hey, ....lol
An interesting conclsuions we can come to is that svc 390 has mark 2.Well these are from HGDEP!. later the buses were given to 83 and / or 50 when 390 started getting Scania N113CRB and OAC from BNDEP. this was when 390 went over to BNDEP leaving HGDEP control.. Svc 390 lasted till approx 1992 when it got some Mercs 117 118 119 then the service was withdrawn.
today SBS117 118 and 119 are prob scrapped but they are called the 390 mercs.
ZYX
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
1701E 1702C 1711B1701E 1702C 1753E from bndep and amdep transferred to hgdep, and were replaced by 3573U 3574S 3580Z respectively. 1711B was the last NAC Mark 2 under bndep. 1711B and its batch of Mark 2s that were due for deregisteration in July 2007 were extended by a week.
1753E x-fered to ARBP, saw it doing 96 one time.Anyway, when 58, 109 were newly-introduced, SLBP and BBDEP/ARBP had sent some of MK2s to BNDEP and HGDEP.
BNDEP intaked: 1708, 1709, 1745, 1746, 1747, 1748, 1771, 1773 etc
HGDEP intaked: 1783, 1825, 1846, 1862 etc
However, 1842 x-fered to ARBP to serve 175.
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Originally posted by SBS9364S:
1753E x-fered to ARBP, saw it doing 96 one time.Anyway, when 58, 109 were newly-introduced, SLBP and BBDEP/ARBP had sent some of MK2s to BNDEP and HGDEP.
BNDEP intaked: 1708, 1709, 1745, 1746, 1747, 1748, 1771, 1773 etc
HGDEP intaked: 1783, 1825, 1846, 1862 etc
However, 1842 x-fered to ARBP to serve 175.
Yes, 1753E was regular to services like 95 96 191 etc.58 got MK2s from hgdep: 1707P 1710D 1722U 1746B (HG SP)
57 got MK2s from slbp: 1706S 1745D (157), 1747Z (182), 1748X (333), 1771C 1773Y 1775S (335), 1792S (333), 1814M (335), 1843D (SP)
These 10 were then transfered to bndep for 32 & 66 when bndep took over these 2 services in 2005. 7 got 985J 986G 992M from amdep 21 & 124. hgdep converted 32 into PAC soon before the transfer, and 1701E 1702C 1711B were given to bndep for 32.
52 59 got MK2s from arbp: 1708L, 1712Z, 1717K, 1720A, 1721Y, 1725L, 1726J, 1727G, 1741P, 1774U
The 1st 4 were deployed on 52, while the last 6 deployed on 59.These 10 were transfered to bndep in exchange for MK4s from bndep. 9 was greatly affected. Most of its MK4 DMs were sent to amdep and 923M was the sole survivor in 9. That was when 9 started to get older buses, from a SD fleet of MK4s to MK2s to CRBs.
Interestingly, most of the MK2s that came to bndep since 2005, some of them actually forms a series. Nice.
1706S 1707P 1708L
1710D 1711B 1712Z
1720A 1721Y 1722U
1725L 1726J 1727G
1745D 1746B 1747Z 1748X
1771C 1773Y 1774U 1775S1772A didn't come because of its ad.
1731T went over to slbp in exchange for a few NAC MK2s like 1783T 1786K 1791U 1862Z 1864T etc (if there were more). 1731T still came back to hgdep in the end.
slbp sent off 182 MK2s to hgdep (1728D 1742L 1825G 1888A etc). The JE feeders cleared their MK2s too.
Yes, hgdep sent a few MK2s over to arbp to serve 175. 1842G swop for 1927X from 273.
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
Yes, 1753E was regular to services like 95 96 191 etc.58 got MK2s from hgdep: 1707P 1710D 1722U 1746B (HG SP)
57 got MK2s from slbp: 1706S 1745D (157), 1747Z (182), 1748X (333), 1771C 1773Y 1775S (335), 1792S (333), 1814M (335), 1843D (SP)
These 10 were then transfered to bndep for 32 & 66 when bndep took over these 2 services in 2005. 7 got 985J 986G 992M from amdep 21 & 124. hgdep converted 32 into PAC soon before the transfer, and 1701E 1702C 1711B were given to bndep for 32.
52 59 got MK2s from arbp: 1708L, 1712Z, 1717K, 1720A, 1721Y, 1725L, 1726J, 1727G, 1741P, 1774U
The 1st 4 were deployed on 52, while the last 6 deployed on 59.These 10 were transfered to bndep in exchange for MK4s from bndep. 9 was greatly affected. Most of its MK4 DMs were sent to amdep and 923M was the sole survivor in 9. That was when 9 started to get older buses, from a SD fleet of MK4s to MK2s to CRBs.
Interestingly, most of the MK2s that came to bndep since 2005, some of them actually forms a series. Nice.
1706S 1707P 1708L
1710D 1711B 1712Z
1720A 1721Y 1722U
1725L 1726J 1727G
1745D 1746B 1747Z 1748X
1771C 1773Y 1774U 1775S1772A didn't come because of its ad.
there shld be 4 Volvo MK2s(full fleet) deployed on 333 last time. am i right?
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Does anyone remember SBS9614X went to BRBP in exchange for which bus?
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Originally posted by SBS9364S:
1753E x-fered to ARBP, saw it doing 96 one time.Anyway, when 58, 109 were newly-introduced, SLBP and BBDEP/ARBP had sent some of MK2s to BNDEP and HGDEP.
BNDEP intaked: 1708, 1709, 1745, 1746, 1747, 1748, 1771, 1773 etc
HGDEP intaked: 1783, 1825, 1846, 1862 etc
However, 1842 x-fered to ARBP to serve 175.
dont screw the facts if you are not 100% sure.
Intro of 34 57 58
slbp sends Mk2s to amdep for S57 only.
hgdep sends 1707 1710 1722 1746 to bndep for S58.This marks bndep getting back Mk2s after a few years
Depot Transfer 2005
Since hgdep is not under east district, it is ideally that all Bedok Route group services to be under bndep. 7 32 66 control were xferred to bndep in Sept 05. To make up for the empty space in hgdep, 159 went from amdep to hgdep.1701 1702 1711 were xferred to bndep from HG SP to do 32
HG 32 Mk3s and HG 66 Mk4s were spreaded around to 80 147 159All S57 Mk2s went to bndep for 32 and 66.
Most 159 Merc ended up on 57, rest went to 21 and 124 cos their B10Ms were xferred to BN also.Intro of 43 52 59
bbdep transfered Mk2s to amdep for 52 and 59, rest of the fleet made up of spare mercPre-IMF Depot Transfer
As amdep's fleet is generally made up of older buses, they took in mainly Mk4 DMs from BN in June 2006 and threw out all their Mk2s, some Mk4s and some N113s .Mk2s from 52 59 went to bndep to do 9 15 66.
Mk4s from BN went straight to perm services that go to town, resulting in 52 59 getting full Merc fleet.and so on and so forth since then...
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Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
there shld be 4 Volvo MK2s(full fleet) deployed on 333 last time. am i right?
Yup, 5 of them1718H 1748X 1792S 1846X 1881T .
1718H made it back on 333 few months before it was dereg-ed because of ad. Previously went over to hgdep as spare for awhile.
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
mark 2s when brand new
they were mostly given to BBDEP and HGDEP. (HGDEP recived amny mark 2 DMs)
By then the 1xxx part of the rego do not mean naything leow. essentially it would had been better if they had called a few mark 2s 25xx after the O305 to sdignify HGDEp orgins. but hey, ....lol
An interesting conclsuions we can come to is that svc 390 has mark 2.Well these are from HGDEP!. later the buses were given to 83 and / or 50 when 390 started getting Scania N113CRB and OAC from BNDEP. this was when 390 went over to BNDEP leaving HGDEP control.. Svc 390 lasted till approx 1992 when it got some Mercs 117 118 119 then the service was withdrawn.
today SBS117 118 and 119 are prob scrapped but they are called the 390 mercs.
ZYX
Yup, I remembered service 390 with Albion Viking fleets in the 80s. In 1989 service 390 got upgraded to Volvo MK2 fleets, followed by Scania N113CRB fleets and later it was converted PAC then FAC with OAC Scania N113CRBS and Merc 0405s.Service 1 (Changi Village - Delta) also had MK2s too before it was withdrawn.
Service 9 also had Volvo MK2s too in 1989. That time it was still terminating at Geylang Lor 1.
The BBDEP took in most of the WAs. It was first deployed on service 174, followed by services 75, 105, 176, 189, 190 etc. Service 170 started to get MK2 WAs in 1993 replacing Volvo B57s.
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Originally posted by service_238:
dont screw the facts if you are not 100% sure.
Intro of 34 57 58
slbp sends Mk2s to amdep for S57 only.
hgdep sends 1707 1710 1722 1746 to bndep for S58.This marks bndep getting back Mk2s after a few years
Depot Transfer 2005
Since hgdep is not under east district, it is ideally that all Bedok Route group services to be under bndep. 7 32 66 control were xferred to bndep in Sept 05. To make up for the empty space in hgdep, 159 went from amdep to hgdep.1701 1702 1711 were xferred to bndep from HG SP to do 32
HG 32 Mk3s and HG 66 Mk4s were spreaded around to 80 147 159All S57 Mk2s went to bndep for 32 and 66.
Most 159 Merc ended up on 57, rest went to 21 and 124 cos their B10Ms were xferred to BN also.Intro of 43 52 59
bbdep transfered Mk2s to amdep for 52 and 59, rest of the fleet made up of spare mercPre-IMF Depot Transfer
As amdep's fleet is generally made up of older buses, they took in mainly Mk4 DMs from BN in June 2006 and threw out all their Mk2s, some Mk4s and some N113s .Mk2s from 52 59 went to bndep to do 9 15 66.
Mk4s from BN went straight to perm services that go to town, resulting in 52 59 getting full Merc fleet.and so on and so forth since then...
And I still remember services 32, 82, 103, 115, 158, 265 were all made PAC when a lot of new SBST services were introduced in 2005. -
Originally posted by service_238:
dont screw the facts if you are not 100% sure.
Intro of 34 57 58
slbp sends Mk2s to amdep for S57 only.
hgdep sends 1707 1710 1722 1746 to bndep for S58.This marks bndep getting back Mk2s after a few years
Depot Transfer 2005
Since hgdep is not under east district, it is ideally that all Bedok Route group services to be under bndep. 7 32 66 control were xferred to bndep in Sept 05. To make up for the empty space in hgdep, 159 went from amdep to hgdep.1701 1702 1711 were xferred to bndep from HG SP to do 32
HG 32 Mk3s and HG 66 Mk4s were spreaded around to 80 147 159All S57 Mk2s went to bndep for 32 and 66.
Most 159 Merc ended up on 57, rest went to 21 and 124 cos their B10Ms were xferred to BN also.Intro of 43 52 59
bbdep transfered Mk2s to amdep for 52 and 59, rest of the fleet made up of spare mercPre-IMF Depot Transfer
As amdep's fleet is generally made up of older buses, they took in mainly Mk4 DMs from BN in June 2006 and threw out all their Mk2s, some Mk4s and some N113s .Mk2s from 52 59 went to bndep to do 9 15 66.
Mk4s from BN went straight to perm services that go to town, resulting in 52 59 getting full Merc fleet.and so on and so forth since then...
Then 197 didnt go over to BN until last yr bcos of historical reasons??
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
Then 197 didnt go over to BN until last yr bcos of historical reasons??
Nope, not historical reasons. Not too sure the main reasons. -
There were LO3x/VO3x that were transferred from some depots during the IMF period. What regos and services used them?
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Originally posted by Rk 2010:
There were LO3x/VO3x that were transferred from some depots during the IMF period. What regos and services used them?
That was temporary. The move lasted at least 10 days.97 took Batch 3 VOs from bbdep. Can't recall all, but guessed these were those used: 9589K 9591C 9601H 9605Y 9606U 9607S 9610G 9611D 9628G 9639A 9640U 9641S 9664B 9665Z. Should be less than that. Thse VOs did cameos as well, like 179/242, etc
133 took VOs from 88
56 took 131's MK4s. Basically if you know which Volvo service which doesn't serve the suntec area are affected.
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
That was temporary. The move lasted at least 10 days.97 took Batch 3 VOs from bbdep. Can't recall all, but guessed these were those used: 9589K 9591C 9601H 9605Y 9606U 9607S 9610G 9611D 9628G 9639A 9640U 9641S 9664B 9665Z. Should be less than that. Thse VOs did cameos as well, like 179/242, etc
133 took VOs from 88
56 took 131's MK4s. Basically if you know which Volvo service which doesn't serve the suntec area are affected.
did SLBP took the 4 VO Batch 2s temporarily from sv 99 excluding 9403M? these 4 has CCTVs installed as well. in return slbp give bbdep LO3xs? 9041Z is one i rmb.someone got the pic i saw in fotopic of 9640U on 97 with ad.
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
That was temporary. The move lasted at least 10 days.97 took Batch 3 VOs from bbdep. Can't recall all, but guessed these were those used: 9589K 9591C 9601H 9605Y 9606U 9607S 9610G 9611D 9628G 9639A 9640U 9641S 9664B 9665Z. Should be less than that. Thse VOs did cameos as well, like 179/242, etc
133 took VOs from 88
56 took 131's MK4s. Basically if you know which Volvo service which doesn't serve the suntec area are affected.
SBS9590E did went to SLBP do 97. Several LO3x like SBS9080K, SBS9081H, SBS9082E were sent to BBDEP to do svcs like 99, 165 and 198.
Most of the BBDEP Mk4s (eg SBS2653D) went to SLBP to do 502. Existing SLBP Mk4s in SLBP mainly from 66 and 105 also did 502 during that period.
Basically, there was a switch of SD/DD buses between BBDEP/SLBP, BRBP/BNDEP and HGDEP/AMDEP during the IMF period in 2006.