Anyone knows what happened to the following old terminals??? What are their actual locations and why are they torn down???
Delta terminal - service 1
MacPherson terminal - service 61, 62, 64, 154
NTI terminal - service 174
Old Upp Thomson terminal - service 71
Potong Pasir terminal - service 142, 147
Princess Elizaberth - service 173, 193
Punggol Rd End terminal - service 82, 83 (What happened to the hawker center beside it???)
Somapah terminal - service 14
South Canal terminal - service 194, 195
Upp Serangoon terminal - service 84, 136, 153
Thanks a lot
Anyone can explain the story of Service 194 that was withdrawn in 1994. It used to ply between somewhere in Raffles Place and Yong Siak Street
Originally posted by vicamour:Anyone knows what happened to the following old terminals??? What are their actual locations and why are they torn down???
Delta terminal - service 1
MacPherson terminal - service 61, 62, 64, 154
NTI terminal - service 174
Old Upp Thomson terminal - service 71
Potong Pasir terminal - service 142, 147
Princess Elizaberth - service 173, 193
Punggol Rd End terminal - service 82, 83 (What happened to the hawker center beside it???)
Somapah terminal - service 14
South Canal terminal - service 194, 195
Upp Serangoon terminal - service 84, 136, 153
Thanks a lot
Somapah Terminal's actual location is at the current Expo carpark. Delta Terminal's location is at the current heavy vehicle parking lot along Havelock Road, near Gan Eng Seng Sec Sch. Punggol Road End Terminal is currently the looping point of 82.
Originally posted by vicamour:Anyone knows what happened to the following old terminals??? What are their actual locations and why are they torn down???
Delta terminal - service 1
MacPherson terminal - service 61, 62, 64, 154
NTI terminal - service 174
Old Upp Thomson terminal - service 71
Potong Pasir terminal - service 142, 147
Princess Elizaberth - service 173, 193
Punggol Rd End terminal - service 82, 83 (What happened to the hawker center beside it???)
Somapah terminal - service 14
South Canal terminal - service 194, 195
Upp Serangoon terminal - service 84, 136, 153
Thanks a lot
Infomation about Somapah Terminal can be found here.
http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Somapah_Interchange
U r welcome.
Didnt know that BBDEP exists more than 20 years ago.
Originally posted by vicamour:Anyone knows what happened to the following old terminals??? What are their actual locations and why are they torn down???
MacPherson terminal - service 61, 62, 64, 154
Potong Pasir terminal - service 142, 147
South Canal terminal - service 194, 195
Upp Serangoon terminal - service 84, 136, 153
Thanks a lot
Macpherson Terminal is currently the carpark outside the FC at Blk 79A/79. back then Circuit Link was non-existant so all services have to enter/exit the estate thru Merpati/Matter Rd.
Potong Pasir Terminal is along Ave 3 where Blk 138 is.
South Canal Terminal is at South Canal Rd in between Nth/South Canal Rds outside OCBC Ctr. Noticed South Canal Rd from 2 lanes suddenly widen out to 4?
Upp Serangoon Terminal is located near the current Serangoon Sec.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Think so. Remembered service 157 used to have Volvo MK3s when converted to PAC in 1993, together with the Leyland Alanteans. When handed over to JRBP (now SLBP), the Merc WAs replaced the Volvo MK3s and the LO2x replaced the LAs on service 157.Service 174 was once full BBDEP too and it was the 1st SBS service to be introduced with NAC Volvo MK2 WAs when new in 1998. Handed over to full JRBP in 1993 and NAC 0405s replaced the MK2s.
I used to drive service 174 and 190. Some of the buses which I had my hands on was SBS1696, 1704 and SBS487.
When I started driving 174, all the buses were parked at bbdep. Service 174 was later assigned to jurong bus park, followed by service 157. And bbdep took 187 and 198. I was not a bus driver yet when service 174 was plying NTU and New Bridge Road.
Yes, you are right. Volvo B10M MkII were used on service 157. The old Atlantean were terrible, heard from other bus drivers that they often overheat, and the acceleration is terrible.
I do not know about now, but during that time jurong bus park beside AYE and the one at Penjuru were under the same group management at bbdep. So sometimes I also get to drive service 66.
Originally posted by SBS9364S:
When 188 was intoduced, it was under JRBP group, instead of BBDEP since BBDEP controls all of CCK services. It was mainly made up of LO2xs and Merczs. I saw SBS7120S, some LO2xs and some Merczs. SBS453C was also one of permers. After handover to TIBS, 188 became FAC, whereas SBS7120S went back to serve 335, not sure about the other redeployment of buses.
Is it not enough space for BBDEP to control 188?
During that time all the buses serving 188 were parked in jrbp, just like buses serving service 77 which were parked at arbp instead of bbdep.
bbdep used to be very crowded when it was still operating the CCK, Bt Batok and Bt Panjang routes.
juz a question out of my mind...
svc 171 (when it was under SBS) used to have LO2x perm right? i remember years back i saw a lo2x on 171 parked at yishun bus int
Originally posted by bus555:juz a question out of my mind...
svc 171 (when it was under SBS) used to have LO2x perm right? i remember years back i saw a lo2x on 171 parked at yishun bus int
Did you remember wrongly? 171 never use DD before during the SBS times.
Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:Did you remember wrongly? 171 never use DD before during the SBS times.
Originally posted by service_238:
Macpherson Terminal is currently the carpark outside the FC at Blk 79A/79. back then Circuit Link was non-existant so all services have to enter/exit the estate thru Merpati/Matter Rd.Potong Pasir Terminal is along Ave 3 where Blk 138 is.
South Canal Terminal is at South Canal Rd in between Nth/South Canal Rds outside OCBC Ctr. Noticed South Canal Rd from 2 lanes suddenly widen out to 4?
Upp Serangoon Terminal is located near the current Serangoon Sec.
Originally posted by Bus and Train LoVuR:Infomation about Somapah Terminal can be found here.
http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Somapah_Interchange
U r welcome.
Thanks for the information about the above interchanges. I am interested to know why are they ceased to be operated, especially so many of them cease to exist in the early 1990s.
I think Macpherson and Upp Serangoon terminals ceased operations because the bus services are moved to Eunos and Hougang Central respectively.
How about the others???
Originally posted by Rk 2010:Somapah Terminal's actual location is at the current Expo carpark. Delta Terminal's location is at the current heavy vehicle parking lot along Havelock Road, near Gan Eng Seng Sec Sch. Punggol Road End Terminal is currently the looping point of 82.
Thanks, but anyone has any idea why are they ceased operations and demolished???
I am interested to know especially, Old Upp Thomson terminal (service 71 uses full Mercedes OF1417s with Hawke bodies), Potong Pasir terminal, South Canal terminal, Princess Elizaberth terminal which service 173 and 193 uses full fleet of Volvo B57s with NZB bodies.
Princess Elizaberth is an isolated area in Hillview Ave with the private housing estate and it is the only bus terminal or transportation commute point in the 1980s, why was it demolished in the early 1990s??? Thanks for the valuable information.
Originally posted by vicamour:Thanks for the information about the above interchanges. I am interested to know why are they ceased to be operated, especially so many of them cease to exist in the early 1990s.
I think Macpherson and Upp Serangoon terminals ceased operations because the bus services are moved to Eunos and Hougang Central respectively.
How about the others???
Thanks, but anyone has any idea why are they ceased operations and demolished???
I am interested to know especially, Old Upp Thomson terminal (service 71 uses full Mercedes OF1417s with Hawke bodies), Potong Pasir terminal, South Canal terminal, Princess Elizaberth terminal which service 173 and 193 uses full fleet of Volvo B57s with NZB bodies.
Princess Elizaberth is an isolated area in Hillview Ave with the private housing estate and it is the only bus terminal or transportation commute point in the 1980s, why was it demolished in the early 1990s??? Thanks for the valuable information.
Punggol Road End Terminal ceased operations during the NEL rationalisation in 2003. As for Delta Terminal, it ceased operations in the mid 1980s. Somapah Terminal ceased operations in 1989.
Was there a SBS Woodlands Depot in the past?
Originally posted by Rk 2010:Was there a SBS Woodlands Depot in the past?
Yes, located at the current Kranji MRT and Turf Club area.
Originally posted by Rk 2010:Was there a SBS Woodlands Depot in the past?
Yes, when SBS was formed in 1973, I think it had been there for the routes in the Northern regions, probably for services in Woodlands, like 169, 178, 180, 181, 182, 372. Not sure about 160, 161, 164, 167 and 171.
Talking about 164, is there a SBS Hino demonstrator in service 164 before???
And what are the official dates of TIBS taking over 160, 161, 164, 167, 169, 178, 180, 181, 182 and 372 in the 1980s???
Thanks.
Originally posted by bus555:juz a question out of my mind...
svc 171 (when it was under SBS) used to have LO2x perm right? i remember years back i saw a lo2x on 171 parked at yishun bus int
171 initally uses Mercedes Benz OF1417s with Hawke bodies in the 1980s and early 1990s. Probably there was a few "cameos" of OF 1417s with NZB bodies for a short period of time. Then the Mercedes Benz O405 non air con and air con buses took over the OF1417s in the mid 1990s. They are usually parked in the extreme corner of the parking lots of Yishun Interchange,now where the bendy buses are parked now. Remembered seeing the O405s doing a full steering lock to the left and how extreme the front wheels turned as they reversed out.
Even 171 in the Nee Soon terminal days, I doubt there are double deckers on the service. But 169 have double deckers during SBS days.
The old 72 route(Serangoon - Tanjong rhu) and the old 158 route(Toa Payoh - Bedok) did have some changes along the way. What exactly happened??
Originally posted by iveco:
You forgot 197. It was amended to JUE along with 241 (later 331). 196 was also BNL, but was shortened to CLE in 1992 to avoid duplicating 198. 165 also terminated in BNL at one stage.
For service 196, it went to Boon Lay in July 1990 then Buona Vista in June 1992 then Clementi in November 1992. It did not duplicate service 198, from AYE, it plied Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Corporation Rd and Boon Lay Way (as in today's service 178).
I don't recall service 165 terminated at Boon Lay.
Originally posted by ZYX2005:
There is an interesting story here to inform also.then 125 terminated at Shenton Way along with svc 400. it was odd then. Svc 400 was a full BRAM svc So for meal breaks relief, svc 125 was chosen as the meal break crossovers. So we saw HGDEP amrk 3s jump from 125 do svc 400. this was in 1994 or so.
after so many many years, svc 125 was amended and became some Sims place and st mikes svc serving kallng ind park, totally losing its orginal service chracter and route. But the 125.400 crossover stays on till today.
ZYX
Service 125 plied between St. Michael's and Bukit Merah before service 131 (then St. Michael's - Shenton Way) took over part of its route. Service 125 then became a loop service between St. Michael's and Shenton Way, I don't recall it terminated at Shenton Way terminal.
In summary,
service 125: St. Michael's - Bukit Merah became St. Michael's - Shenton Way loop
service 131: St. Michael's - Shenton Way terminal became St. Michael's - Bukit Merah
Originally posted by Rk 2010:The old 72 route(Serangoon - Tanjong rhu) and the old 158 route(Toa Payoh - Bedok) did have some changes along the way. What exactly happened??
Service 72 (Serangoon - Tanjong Rhu loop) was withdrawn in June 1992. It plied Boundary Rd, Upp Paya Lebar Rd, Paya Lebar Rd, Tanjong Katong Rd, Mountbatten Rd, Fort Rd and Tanjong Rhu Rd.
Service 76 replaced service 72 route between Boundary Rd and Tanjong Katong Rd when the former was amended to skip Ubi Ave 2, Eunos Link, Jalan Eunos, Still Rd and Still Rd South.
Service 158 changed from Bedok - Toa Payoh to Bedok - Serangoon (in the late 80?). It plied New Upp Changi Rd, Siglap Rd, East Coast Rd, Mountbatten Rd, Tanjong Katong Rd, Dunman Rd, Old Airport Rd, Mountbatten Rd then continued with present route to Serangoon.
On the same day when service 72 was withdrawn, service 158 was amended to become the present route. The sector between Bedok interchange and Tanjong Katong Rd was replaced by service 40, which plied Telok Kurau Rd before it was amended to ply Siglap Rd.
Originally posted by vicamour:Anyone knows what happened to the following old terminals??? What are their actual locations and why are they torn down???
Delta terminal - service 1
MacPherson terminal - service 61, 62, 64, 154
NTI terminal - service 174
Old Upp Thomson terminal - service 71
Potong Pasir terminal - service 142, 147
Princess Elizaberth - service 173, 193
Punggol Rd End terminal - service 82, 83 (What happened to the hawker center beside it???)
Somapah terminal - service 14
South Canal terminal - service 194, 195
Upp Serangoon terminal - service 84, 136, 153
Thanks a lot
MacPherson terminal also had service 60 to Shenton Way.
There were also other services at Somapah beside service 14.
Service 14 used to ply between Bukit Merah and Changi Village before it was shortened to Bedok.
South Canal terminal also had service 192 to Jurong interchange. Majority of its route is today's service 51.
Originally posted by Djmeowmeow:Anyone can explain the story of Service 194 that was withdrawn in 1994. It used to ply between somewhere in Raffles Place and Yong Siak Street
Service 194 was a loop service between South Canal terminal and Yong Siak St via (South Canal Rd), (North Canal Rd), New Bridge Rd, Outram Rd, (Tiong Bahru Rd), Tiong Poh Rd, Guan Chuan St, (Chay Chuan St), Yong Siak St, (Moh Guan Terrace), Kim Pong Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Outram Rd, Eu Tong Sen St, (North Canal Rd).
Originally posted by tranquilice:MacPherson terminal also had service 60 to Shenton Way.
There were also other services at Somapah beside service 14.
Service 14 used to ply between Bukit Merah and Changi Village before it was shortened to Bedok.
South Canal terminal also had service 192 to Jurong interchange. Majority of its route is today's service 51.
There was also 12. It was involved in a route swap with 32.
Summary: 12 (Somapah-BNV >> PSR-NBR)
32 (BDK-Chinatown loop >> BDK-BNV)
Originally posted by Rk 2010:Was there a SBS Woodlands Depot in the past?
WLDEP was replaced by BBDEP (3 series regoes wound up @ BBDEP).