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If that's the case, they can just go and withdraw the sv...Originally posted by ^tamago^:sometimes before you post, put yourself in SBST's shoes and think if doing so is practical or not.
191 is a ultra low-demand service. in fact, its timing was revised this june and frequency shot up from 18 minutes to 33 minutes. this shows how unimportant this service is, as residents at portsdown area predominantly use cars as their mode of transport. even the international school has lots of school buses and there is usually only at most one student on bus 191 for the morning trip. the only time when the bus is packed is when soldiers are headed for OETI in the morning and evening peak. and with such long frequencies, any stray resident who actually commutes by bus 191 would have memorised the timings and adjusted his/her routine so as not to arrive at the bus stop too early and feed the mosquitoes there. lols.
you don't make sweeping statements and have guides for a service simply because it has a long frequency and look at nothing else. -
not approved by PTC. the solution is longer headways to the longest permissible (30 minutes but it went to 33 minutes).Originally posted by sbst275:If that's the case, they can just go and withdraw the sv...
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"... quality of service standards for the compliance of basic bus operators and imposes Universal Service Obligation (USO) upon them. The USO requires SBST and SMRTB to provide a comprehensive network of scheduled bus services to within 400 metres of the residence of commuters in areas where there is at least a minimum level of daily passenger demand. These services must be operated daily, throughout the entire day and at an acceptable headway, even if they are unprofitable." -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Then, they should just continue to serve
not approved by PTC. the solution is longer headways to the longest permissible (30 minutes but it went to 33 minutes).
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"... quality of service standards for the compliance of basic bus operators and imposes Universal Service Obligation (USO) upon them. The USO requires SBST and SMRTB to provide a comprehensive network of [b]scheduled bus services to within 400 metres of the residence of commuters in areas where there is at least a minimum level of daily passenger demand. These services must be operated daily, throughout the entire day and at an acceptable headway, even if they are unprofitable."[/b]
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it may get axed from next year or 2007 when ayer rajah and portsdown camp are closed. then the whole landscape of the place will change with totally new roads and buildings for One-North.
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If a service can merge with 191 and use portsdown rd as a passby to AYE and another service to exit from AYE to Portsdown rd to serve Buona Vista too, wouldnt the situation be good?
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Anyone has info about the new 183 route? Got any maps?
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Service 183 Route Extension
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/whatsnew_28September2005L.asp
Shop OwnerÂ’s Wife Wins $10,000 Product Voucher In SBS TransitÂ’s Lucky Draw Promotion
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If I can remember correctly, SBST had once removed the SBST191 services on Sunday many years back. SBST reinstated the Sunday services after residents feedback that they do still need the service on Sunday.Originally posted by sbst275:If that's the case, they can just go and withdraw the sv...
If the bus timetables were following strictly, it does not matter much if the bus frequencies were 17 or 33 minutes. If 33 minutes, commuters should make an effort to check on the bus schedules. If 33 minutes, bus captains should make an effort to adhere on bus schedules strictly. If 33 minutes, bus companies are responsible to provide the most up to date bus schedules.
I did feedback to Sbst (3 years back) regarding providing an up to date bus schedules for SBST200. I had observed that SBST200 did not follow the timings written on the bus plates, and SBST had acknowledged that they have yet to update the bus plates. -
[quote]Originally posted by iamgoondu:
If I can remember correctly, SBST had once removed the SBST191 services on Sunday many years back. SBST reinstated the Sunday services after residents feedback that they do still need the service on Sunday.
If the bus timetables were following strictly, it does not matter much if the bus frequencies were 17 or 33 minutes. If 33 minutes, commuters should make an effort to check on the bus schedules. If 33 minutes, bus captains should make an effort to adhere on bus schedules strictly. If 33 minutes, bus companies are responsible to provide the most up to date bus schedules.
I did feedback to Sbst (3 years back) regarding providing an up to date bus schedules for SBST200. I had observed that SBST200 did not follow the timings written on the bus plates, and SBST had acknowledged that they have yet to update the bus plates.[/qu
There was one recent occasion where i waited for sv191 and i thought (according to the bus timetable), it would arrive at 3.20PM at the Holland Dr stop. In the end, it arrived 10 minutes earlier and there was onli mi and another man who travelled to Portsdown Rd. -
Everytime i take sv191 from the looping point it also arrive 10 mins earlier, so i always waited there 11 mins before the scheduled time.Originally posted by SBS9889U:There was one recent occasion where i waited for sv191 and i thought (according to the bus timetable), it would arrive at 3.20PM at the Holland Dr stop. In the end, it arrived 10 minutes earlier and there was onli mi and another man who travelled to Portsdown Rd. -
strange. my observations are that it is always accurate. the old uncle has got the hang of it very well. but maybe i only take it at peak hours that's why.
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Did you verify if the busplate indeed specify the most up to date expected bus arrival times?Originally posted by samtlk:Everytime i take sv191 from the looping point it also arrive 10 mins earlier, so i always waited there 11 mins before the scheduled time. -
Duplicate post.
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Public transports like SBST Buses & NEL Trains will be much convenient to you with no ERP charges. It is best to take public transport than driving your car to increase the savings on ERP charges.Originally posted by samtlk:
BTW, too bad, the bus captains will have to pay the ERP charges when the buses enter the CBD Restricted Zone [ERP].
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bus captains pay or the bus company?
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hu say so...Public Buses do not need to pay ERP, AFAIK, which is 99% sure...but then, ppl say other taxes or wadever is higher ???Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:BTW, too bad, the bus captains will have to pay the ERP charges when the buses enter the CBD Restricted Zone [ERP]. -
Have you looked carefully at the lower right corner of the bus windscreen? There is ared-coloured IU fixed to it.Originally posted by alex_cai92:hu say so...Public Buses do not need to pay ERP, AFAIK, which is 99% sure...but then, ppl say other taxes or wadever is higher ???
I am pretty sure buses in London are exempt from paying toll in London CBD. In Singapore, everything is about money. Even public buses, being essential services, are not spared from ERP. -
Regarding service 191, it had frequency of 15mins peak and 30mins off peak.
The off peak/full day bus was a CAC mk2 (WA), and the pak period bus was a NAC mk2 (DM).
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Have you looked more carefully into the IU and seen that it is EMPTY? Obviously not. Iveco, don't spout your mouth off without knowing what you're talking about.Originally posted by iveco:Have you looked carefully at the lower right corner of the bus windscreen? There is ared-coloured IU fixed to it.
I am pretty sure buses in London are exempt from paying toll in London CBD. In Singapore, everything is about money. Even public buses, being essential services, are not spared from ERP.
The IU is there simply because the system is not intelligent enough to detect when a public bus is moving through. It can only do so by detecting the chip inside the IU. So without an IU, public buses would be fined everytime they pass the gantry because the strip sensor on the ground cannot detect the mode of transport. -
Actually, Sv. 191 DOES have service guides dated 1 July 2005, if I'm not mistaken.Originally posted by ^tamago^:you don't make sweeping statements and have guides for a service simply because it has a long frequency and look at nothing else. -
public service vehicles, including SBS, TIB and CSS plate vehicles, are actually exempted from ERP, even if they said otherwise officially.Originally posted by iveco:Have you looked carefully at the lower right corner of the bus windscreen? There is ared-coloured IU fixed to it.
I am pretty sure buses in London are exempt from paying toll in London CBD. In Singapore, everything is about money. Even public buses, being essential services, are not spared from ERP.
a cashcard is required to be in the slot at all times when passing under gantry to avoid jamming the system with unnecessary "no card" errors which then have to be removed later again, thus making the system less efficient. the gantries are programmed to deduct the value of $0.00 from all such vehicles.
oh yes, a positive value is required in the cashcard, though no deductions will be made. -
Originally posted by SBS9818A:
SBS9889U asked for guides with timetables, not just service guides.
Actually, Sv. 191 [b]DOES have service guides dated 1 July 2005, if I'm not mistaken.[/b] -
Originally posted by SBS9818A:
actually possible, though very troublesome. the camera takes down the offending vehicle, optically scan the picture, recognise the SBS prefix and thus truncate the entry from the system.
Have you looked more carefully into the IU and seen that it is [b]EMPTY? Obviously not. Iveco, don't spout your mouth off without knowing what you're talking about.
The IU is there simply because the system is not intelligent enough to detect when a public bus is moving through. It can only do so by detecting the chip inside the IU. So without an IU, public buses would be fined everytime they pass the gantry because the strip sensor on the ground cannot detect the mode of transport.[/b]
i supppose nowadays drivers don't follow the card-in-IU rule anymore, 'cos they realised nothing bad happens anyway when they don't put cards in. -
SBST & SMRT buses (not sure about CSS) DO NOT have any cards in the IU. The IU slot is locked with a cover & everytime a bus passes under the gantry a series of error beeps is heard. When sv502 was using SBSL buses (PA regos) previously, the BCs had to draw the cashcard from the depot (or was it the control office at Boon Lay Int).Originally posted by ^tamago^:public service vehicles, including SBS, TIB and CSS plate vehicles, are actually exempted from ERP, even if they said otherwise officially.
a cashcard is required to be in the slot at all times when passing under gantry to avoid jamming the system with unnecessary "no card" errors which then have to be removed later again, thus making the system less efficient. the gantries are programmed to deduct the value of $0.00 from all such vehicles.
oh yes, a positive value is required in the cashcard, though no deductions will be made.