I wonder why Singapore doesn't declare neutrality, so that we can maintain peace with every other country (except for Malaysia :)) If Singapore declares neutrality, we can abolish the wasteful SAF and save on financial resources which can be used for economic development. And all males can save 1.5 years and graduate from University or enter the workforce quickly. Imagine how much more money you can earn in those 1.5 years?! In the post WWII era, no one will go for any land or air combat anymore except for America against the Middle East. Has any Asian country broken into a war in recent years (Not counting the Vietnam War, and that was America's problem again)? Neutrality means no army (like Liechtenstein), and means more resources for the development of the country! Look at Liechtenstein, it has the world's highest GDP (PPP) per capita!
Let me guess, you have not enlisted yet.
it's like saying u a gay and expect they let u into a gals changing room
Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):it's like saying u a gay and expect they let u into a gals changing room
haha, thats a good one.
oh..... so the conclusion is just...... i dun wanna do NS. rite?
why S'pore has SAF................
1) PAP need army to protect their arses and keep them in power.............
2) to invade M'sia for food and water if relations break down..............
3) becoz our jewish masters want us to help control the vital straits of Malacca..........
i can think of others but the above are the main points.
Asroamnista2001 point2 is not valid.
Originally posted by dragg:i am not sure singapore can declare neutral in this region.
what if we were attacked? are you prepared for the consequences? frankly i am not.
i like to fight. in war i have a chance to fight. not like chao ah beng fights.
Yup! Just hate NS. Not enlisted yet. Okay, we need an army to attack Malaysia, but that's the only reason. How much training do we need to deal with a simple bunch of barbarians? But being neutral is good too! Jewish masters? Haha! I thought they would have been wiped out by Hitler!
All we are effectively doing now having an army is telling Malaysia, "I dare you to come fuck with us!". Ha!
only you nd those silly people sitting in coffee shops think so
Originally posted by troublemaker2005:Asroamnista2001 point2 is not valid.
then why SAF buy and make long range weapons ?
why we buy refueling tankers for jet fighters and Hawkeye radar planes ?
why train in large open terrain in other countries when S'pore is an urban jungle ?
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
then why SAF buy and make long range weapons ?
why we buy refueling tankers for jet fighters and Hawkeye radar planes ?
why train in large open terrain in other countries when S'pore is an urban jungle ?
we don;t negate the fact taht one day our forces might be deployed in larger areas. singapore is too small for any military traingin in fact. long range weapons for defecne. if people choose to attack use have ranged weapon adds versatility inb defence. refueling tankers are common purchases of army. any mission (not only assault or attack missions) will require planes to stay in the air for patrols or without havig to land needs refusing in the air). singapor urban jungles are good for zoo animals only in fact. denser complex terrains will help expose our infantyr to tougher situations and secnaris our small isalnd cannot afford.
tell tale sgins of an army prepared for invasion i can tell yo are a suden increase in fighter jets, jets with options to mount and carry large numbers or missles and bombs. purchase and construction of large battle ships with big guns for shelling coastlines. really singapore invest in technology but not quantoty. if you see an increase exceeding the trargeted numbers of weapons then there is a chance that a country is prepared for war. singapore never has a sudden drastic increase in weapons purchase or construction. our budget beside putting into R and D, are just for traingins, in a forigener country and locaally, acquisition of high tech weapons all in small quantities.
In politics and business world, there is no forever friends / enemies but forever benefits.
在政治�商场上没有永远的朋��敌人,但�有永远的利益。
Originally posted by C751A 70049/70050:In politics and business world, there is no forever friends / enemies but forever benefits.
true
fyi Singapore is a member of NAM
TS is brainlesss
he want SG become another Kuwait, no army, no armed forces to protect itself
let iraq rape her
Why save this kind of miserable sum of money?
TS, u really ought to have ur brain examined
Such naiveness to think that a declaration of neutrality will protect Singapore. Please do your NS first & stand beside your fellow Singaporean brothers to protect ourselves from whoever wants to do us harm.
any country which wants to remain "neutral" better have all the other countries around them and more by the balls like the Swiss with their banking system (just think how many of the politicians have their money stashed away protected by the Swiss?)
or have an army with enough clout to ensure that anyone who doesn't give a shit about "neutrality" will have their balls cut off if they dare to invade...
either way, the TS has to serve in a conscripted army...
just like the Swiss citizens have to serve in the army
Originally posted by the Bear:any country which wants to remain "neutral" better have all the other countries around them and more by the balls like the Swiss with their banking system (just think how many of the politicians have their money stashed away protected by the Swiss?)
or have an army with enough clout to ensure that anyone who doesn't give a shit about "neutrality" will have their balls cut off if they dare to invade...
either way, the TS has to serve in a conscripted army...
just like the Swiss citizens have to serve in the army
This is ridiculous. The presumption here is that if you declare neutrality, nobody will attack you. Belgium declared neutrality each time and still got invaded by Germany. The second presumption is that if you declare neutrality, the army can be abolished. Rubbish! Switzerland and Sweden are both neutral nations, yet they have strong and viable armed forces, for the reason that you still have to be prepared to defend yourself. Worse, you have to do this ALL BY YOURSELF! Is this not a worse situation than having friends who may help? Another point: Sweden had to develop a strong, home-grown defence industry in order to support its armed forces, for the fact that it cannot also expect to receive support from other states in the form of munitions. Look how much more it cost them, trying to develop everything to support a small armed forces, especially if you cannot also export your weapons? These days, Sweden is more realistic, and has began partner non-neutral states in joint development.
They should abolish reservice... because I did not complete my 10years cycle yet... dun worry... ts will join me and support my statement once he serve his 2 years...
Originally posted by nfshp253:I wonder why Singapore doesn't declare neutrality, so that we can maintain peace with every other country (except for Malaysia :)) If Singapore declares neutrality, we can abolish the wasteful SAF and save on financial resources which can be used for economic development. And all males can save 1.5 years and graduate from University or enter the workforce quickly. Imagine how much more money you can earn in those 1.5 years?! In the post WWII era, no one will go for any land or air combat anymore except for America against the Middle East. Has any Asian country broken into a war in recent years (Not counting the Vietnam War, and that was America's problem again)? Neutrality means no army (like Liechtenstein), and means more resources for the development of the country! Look at Liechtenstein, it has the world's highest GDP (PPP) per capita!
in old days it is because most weakr country besides not having a strong army, have weak rulers. most were overrun. why present day no more large scale wars? mankind had learn from the past and most countries now have their own armies. sometimes its not just about country against country. its more about politics and politicians. on the contrtatry i support the gahmen to spend more on militray. they should reais ethe pay for all NSF! raise not enough, raise again!
They should get mercenaries instead...