NS Issue: coming back this wednesday. Need advice asap!!!
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actually theres no way spore immigration is able to check yer true identity if u had changed yer name to a dutch surname etc etc in yer dutch passport. u would be just another passenger from europe ....theres no way they can track u.
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they will check yer name thoroughly if it is a sporean passport.if it is a danish or eu passport then u may be safe even if yer eu passport has yer chinese name on it there are many chinese from china living in eu as well so u could be from china and elsewhere.
as long as u use yer danish or eu pasport u should be safe.once u get back to holland after u meet up with yer folks from spore...change yer surname to an european....u will vanish completely.
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why dont u just bring yer folks over to the EU??and stay there permanently?
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just dun fill in any forms sayin u were some singaporean who didnt do his 2 years ns.they wont be lenient if u get caught if u unknowingly filled in some form sayin>>>> "yes..i was the guy who ran off from ns 2 years ago n here is my ic number as well!"just deny u are singaporean.simple n end of story.
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Originally posted by Xcert:
I think we are referring to different ones...
Found an article on the one I was referring...original article by the Straits Times is not available anymore....I copy and paste from another forum...
He is fined for defaulting on his NS after he decides to return, as his aged parents are finding it difficult to visit him in London
By Kristina Tom
AFTER staying away from Singapore for nearly 30 years because he defaulted on his national service, pianist Melvyn Tan has finally paid his dues.
The 49-year-old, who has lived in the United Kingdom for the last 37 years, has paid a fine for not fulfilling his national service duty and will be performing at the Esplanade next month.
In an interview with The Sunday Times, a visibly relieved Mr Tan said that he is glad to have put the past behind him.
He has not stepped onto Singapore soil all these years because he had feared that he would be arrested and thrown into jail.
But his 86-year-old father and 80-year-old mother are getting too old to make the regular trips to London to visit him at his home in Notting Hill, London.
So he decided to take a 'risk'. After informing the authorities of his intention to return, he came home in April for a court hearing.
The hearing lasted 30 minutes but he had never been so nervous in his life. 'It was very, very nerve-wracking,' he said.
To his relief, he was asked only to pay a fine.
He claims that he cannot remember the amount.
Under the Enlistment Act, those who evade national service can be fined up to $5,000 or sent to jail for up to three years, or both.
Although Mr Tan became a British citizen in 1978, he was still a Singapore citizen when he failed to fulfil his NS duties, making him answerable for the offence in a Singapore court.
In 1994, The Straits Times quoted a lawyer who said that one of his clients, a 39-year-old French citizen, was arrested at the airport on arrival, fined and made to complete nine months of training.
Mr Tan, who has an elder sister, was studying at Anglo-Chinese School when he left Singapore to study at the Yehudi Menuhin School in Sussex. He was then 12 years old.
After he finished his course, he stayed on in England to study at the Royal College of Music instead of coming home to serve national service in 1977.
He said: 'When I was at the Royal College and I got my final call-up, I was just on the brink of starting a career. I thought about it and thought about it and realised that I was not going to get this chance again.
'So I made that very difficult decision to not return. It meant I could never come back.'
Mr Tan first made his mark in the classical world with his performances on the 19th-century fortepiano, the precursor to the modern concert grand.
In the 1980s and 1990s, he produced a series of recordings that popularised the early music movement, regarded as a slightly eccentric niche within the music world.
He has about 30 recordings to his name and a regular touring schedule in Europe.
Along with Seow Yit Kin and Margaret Leng Tan, he has helped Singapore to gain recognition on the global piano scene.
The pianist is wasting no time in reconnecting with the Singapore music scene.
He goes back to England tomorrow, but will return early next month to sit on the jury of the National Arts Council's biennial National Piano and Violin Competition, which starts Dec 7 and ends Dec 18.
He said that he is getting to know Singapore, which he describes as 'unrecognisable', all over again. And, of course, he has been feasting on his favourite foods such as popiah.
But the best part about being able to come home as a free man was showing up at his mother's 80th birthday party on Thursday.
His parents still live in his childhood home in Lengkok Angsa, off Paterson Road. 'There were a few tears,' he said. 'She was just delighted. It was the best birthday present she's ever had.'
[email protected]Yup, they are different. The one I am talking about is still in NUS.
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Originally posted by a-Lost-9uY:
never plus "reservists"?Nah. As long as he keep on applying exit permit to work overseas. Hes free from it.
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Thanks for all the reply and honest advice and I do appreciate that. I am heading to the airport right now to catch my flight Changi. I will keep you guys posted!
@ Terminator Hitman: thanks again for your very useful information. =) I will change my Chinese name asap when I am back from my SG trip.
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Originally posted by Weihungchew88:
Thanks for all the reply and honest advice and I do appreciate that. I am heading to the airport right now to catch my flight Changi. I will keep you guys posted!
@ Terminator Hitman: thanks again for your very useful information. =) I will change my Chinese name asap when I am back from my SG trip.
If you do get arrested and handcuffed at Changi, do say hi to the judge for me.
Oh, and I still think your 'idea' of human rights stink.
Cheers!
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remember to come back post ur outcome hor...
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We want to know his outcome..
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Originally posted by Weihungchew88:@ Terminator Hitman: thanks again for your very useful information. =) I will change my Chinese name asap when I am back from my SG trip.
Oh yeah, that guy's a real lifesaver. The only thing he forgot to mention is not to wear the same coloured shirt that you wore when you left - that way they'll never get you.
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stop scaring that guy.his passport is foreign and if spore immigration were to arrest him then that would be a diplomatic issue.besides that they cant trace out who he is even with his foreign passport.
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Originally posted by Terminator Hitman:
stop scaring that guy.his passport is foreign and if spore immigration were to arrest him then that would be a diplomatic issue.besides that they cant trace out who he is even with his foreign passport.
Tell that to our then Romanian diplomat. -
romanian diplomat was different.he is wanted by interpol for taking lives n crime is viewed as worthy to be in interpol list...however even then they still cant bring him back immediately...the spore police dun have juristiction overseas....and he made himself famous b4 he left.
what about the malaysian guy who fled across the causeway with no passport or anything after comitting a serious crime???he actually simply just walked across the causeway.....that sounds even easier leaving spore!
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Funny how the s*ckers fall for it.
Nowadays biometric passport. Even if change name, biometrics still the same.
Otherwise, terrorists can enter using different name liao.
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if person is coming back using a german passport ,spore gov wont know who he is...only that he is from germany with the same face as passport holder.
like as if the passport will give referess with employer online.as long as i have the same face as the person in passsport i can walk thru immigration.they arent goin to check fingerprints yet.
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Ah, things are so wonderful in fantasy land.
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?where is weihung chew88???!!!
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Probably serving his first week of BMT.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
Probably serving his first week of BMT.
Nah.... it can't be that quick....
He's probably having his day in court right now.
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the biometric passoport only has the jpeg image of yer face and tamper proof so that it cant be duplicated by syndicates....i refuse to believe he was caught at changi airport for using his european passport!!
theres no data on thumbprints on passport so airport immigration in spore cant trace him!
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My internal sources told me some guy from holland came to queenstown remand prison yesterday, straight from the airport. For what, I dunno.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Nah.... it can't be that quick....
He's probably having his day in court right now.
It could well be that quick, fudge. Years ago, I got a surprise phone call from an ex-classmate from secondary school. He was a Filipino PR who had gone back to Manila at the age of 18 (his parents still stayed in Singapore) and returned three years later. I said that we should catch up for a beer, and his reply was, "No can do - there's an MP standing right here who's about to take me to Khatib Camp".
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