SG is neither a younger brother nor military outpost of USA.
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SG is neither a younger brother nor military outpost of USA.
There are few leaders in the world dare to crush with US Presidents.
SG leaders is one of the few of them.
Take the case of Michael Faye as example.
In other countries,a letter of US Ambassdor or US Vice President or
Secreatay of State is more than enough to get the teenager freed.
Who wont give face to US Predsident?Only Singapore leader.
SG president just reduced two strokes of canning.
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There are many countries think SG is younger brother
or military outpost of USA.This is wrong.
Young brother just listen to the big brother.
But SG dared to say NO.What do u think other countries
leaders would do when Michael Faye commit crime in their countries
and the leaders get a letter from US President.
I think Faye would be released in 24 hours,
2.SG and USA are friends.But it dunt mean SG agree everythings
that USA do.Do u agree everything your spouse do?
3.SG,as logistic center of USA,do not mean it is a outpost of USA.
This is a give and take .SG will be benefited in many ways
when SG is a logistic center.There are few draw backs.
One of them would be SG regarded as US's outpost.
4.Let me do things in MY WAY.Like LKY said,"Do not tell me
how to arrange furniture in my house"
Likewise,dunt tell me whom i can entertain in my house.
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So,i think The Star article,which is widely quoted in China,is a big joke.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/9/15/focus/4479139&sec=focus
Tuesday September 15, 2009
Avoid confrontation in Asean
IKIM VIEWS
By SUZALIE MOHAMAD, Fellow, Centre of Syariah, Law and Political Science, Ikim.########
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/
The Star article is put as Headline in this PRC militray site.
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http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/p/2009-09-17/0855566258.html
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"SG stealth frigate fleet is the best in SEA".(lion note---no lah...but i like this pic.)
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Avoid confrontation in Asean
IKIM VIEWS
By SUZALIE MOHAMAD, Fellow, Centre of Syariah, Law and Political Science, Ikim.Singapore’s armed forces buildup suggests it could be an outpost in the security chain the US is building around China, and this is contrary to the spirit of Asean, of which it is a member.
A LEADING US international intelligence agency recently published a significant report defining US-Singapore military cooperation and highlighting Singapore as one of the US’ prime regional strategic alliances and recipients of military assistance.
It also highlighted the objective of this cooperation.
Singapore owns the most modern armed forces in this region. With US military cooperation, support and guarantee, Singapore is equipped with the most advanced military equipment in the world.
According to military experts, Singapore’s military buildup is the best in terms of tactical-technological advancement in South East Asia.
The article Singapore’s Military Buildup: US Assists City-State to Improve Defences to Deter China specifically mentions that the continuous modernisation of Singapore’s armed forces is meant to become the key link in the security chain that the US is building around China.
The cooperation is viewed as a move to deter China.
Mark Helprin, an analyst from the Claremont Institute asserts that China is more dangerous than the Soviet Union.
The weakening of the US economically and militarily is giving rise to a new centre of power.
The US economy, mismanaged and drained by its global wars on terrorism, is increasingly dependent on Chinese trade imports and on Chinese holdings of US treasury securities.
China is the biggest preserver of the US dollar with US$825bil (RM3tril) worth.
Princeton University Professor Chris Hedges said if Beijing decided to abandon the US bond market, even in part, it would have a serious effect on the value of the US currency.
Consequently, it would lead to the collapse of the US$7tril (RM25tril) US real estate market, and there would be a wave of US bank failures and huge unemployment.
This psychological threat creates fear in the White House. Thus the buildup of security chains around China is deemed necessary. Japan, Australia, Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia have already taken their place in the anti-China security chain.
Singapore being an advanced and developed country within South East Asian is deemed important in the US deterrence policy towards China.
Singapore’s military spending doubled to US$8bil (RM28bil) in 2008. With such an allocation, its armed force is well positioned to acquire the sophisticated weapons and technologies it needs.
Many strategic analysts believe that with such an arsenal, Singapore is able to destroy enemies on the ground, pre-emptively seize strategic territory and intervene quickly and effectively in Indonesia, Malaysia and other likely trouble spots in the contested South China Sea.
Like Israel, which lacks strategic depth and is outnumbered by potentially hostile neighbours, Singapore’s defence strategy is two-fold: build an offensive-minded security force that can strike at potential enemies before they harm it, and seek the support and protection of the US.
Besides Singapore, the US is also continuously seeking other potential strategic allies in the region like Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.
It is also raising the prospect of a return to Subic Bay in the Philippines.
At present, Singapore allows the US Pacific Naval Command to use its port for repair, replacing the role of Subic Bay which was closed in the 1990s.
Australia and Japan have already entered strong agreement with the US in the anti-China security chain.
US involvement in Singapore’s armed forces has led Singapore to become a big power partner of the US anti-China security policy in the Asia Pacific.
Undeniably, this kind of relationship sidesteps the Asean spirit to remain neutral and free from geo-political intimidation and interference.
Singapore’s effort to modernise its fighting forces, working to better integrate its force with that of the US and Australia and other regional militaries, and being located at one of the world’s most strategic checkpoints – both economically and militarily – will likely see it emerge later as a front-line outpost in the escalating military confrontation between the US and China.
It is time now, for peace loving countries in this region to reject this kind of engagement.
Any process towards war must be blocked by any means. Malaysia should take the lead to mobilise member states of Asean to realise the spirit of non-confrontation and mutual cooperation.
The military policy and strategy that encourage arms race and suspicion must be avoided at all means."--EOQ
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Singapore’s Military Buildup: US Assists City-State to Improve Defences to Deter China
can u guy tell me where is the source of this article?
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Only a noisy pussy will believe that the USA can depend on a Little Red Dot to deter China.
You must be more then a NUT.
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nuts??? nuts not cheap ok, recently its cost went up..especially cashew nuts, almond nuts..pecans etc etc...therefore anything that deal with nuts also went up, like peanut butter, Hazenut chocolate, roast almond with vanilla ice cream by Ben n Jerry etc etc...
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Originally posted by angel7030:
nuts??? nuts not cheap ok, recently its cost went up..especially cashew nuts, almond nuts..pecans etc etc...therefore anything that deal with nuts also went up, like peanut butter, Hazenut chocolate, roast almond with vanilla ice cream by Ben n Jerry etc etc...
Of course, "nuts" are not cheap."Hums" are cheaper.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Of course, "nuts" are not cheap."Hums" are cheaper.
Hums also not cheap,..abalones also very expensive hor. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
Hums also not cheap,..abalones also very expensive hor.
Only the ignorance of a "hum" like you will dare to compare itself with the "abalones".Are you so desperate ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Only the ignorance of a "hum" like you will dare to compare itself with the "abalones".Are you so desperate ?
desperate are for houswives, aint we, the young ones ya -
wants to buy a kg of hums...
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dunno what to do wiv nuts except give them to guests fer chinese new year
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Originally posted by HITMAN11111111111:
dunno what to do wiv nuts except give them to guests fer chinese new year
can use to throw at people during NDP mah...or can go zoo and give to monkeys -
Why angel7030 always tio flamed? Haha and is "she" really a "she"?
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Hums also not cheap,..abalones also very expensive hor.
I buy Live abalones for $2.99 each.......the size of palm. Only expensive in PAP run Singapore. -
TS so poor thing, thread got hijacked lol
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
SG is neither a younger brother nor military outpost of USA.
There are few leaders in the world dare to crush with US Presidents.
SG leaders is one of the few of them.
Take the case of Michael Faye as example.
In other countries,a letter of US Ambassdor or US Vice President or
Secreatay of State is more than enough to get the teenager freed.
Who wont give face to US Predsident?Only Singapore leader.
SG president just reduced two strokes of canning.
@@@@@@@@@@@
There are many countries think SG is younger brother
or military outpost of USA.This is wrong.
Young brother just listen to the big brother.
But SG dared to say NO.What do u think other countries
leaders would do when Michael Faye commit crime in their countries
and the leaders get a letter from US President.
I think Faye would be released in 24 hours,
2.SG and USA are friends.But it dunt mean SG agree everythings
that USA do.Do u agree everything your spouse do?
3.SG,as logistic center of USA,do not mean it is a outpost of USA.
This is a give and take .SG will be benefited in many ways
when SG is a logistic center.There are few draw backs.
One of them would be SG regarded as US's outpost.
4.Let me do things in MY WAY.Like LKY said,"Do not tell me
how to arrange furniture in my house"
Likewise,dunt tell me whom i can entertain in my house.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@
So,i think The Star article,which is widely quoted in China,is a big joke.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/9/15/focus/4479139&sec=focus
Tuesday September 15, 2009
Avoid confrontation in Asean
IKIM VIEWS
By SUZALIE MOHAMAD, Fellow, Centre of Syariah, Law and Political Science, Ikim.########
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/
The Star article is put as Headline in this PRC militray site.
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http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/p/2009-09-17/0855566258.html
"æ–°åŠ å�¡æµ·å†›æ‹¥æœ‰ä¸œå�—亚地区最强的éš�身战舰群"
"SG stealth frigate fleet is the best in SEA".(lion note---no lah...but i like this pic.)
##############
quote
Avoid confrontation in Asean
IKIM VIEWS
By SUZALIE MOHAMAD, Fellow, Centre of Syariah, Law and Political Science, Ikim.Singapore’s armed forces buildup suggests it could be an outpost in the security chain the US is building around China, and this is contrary to the spirit of Asean, of which it is a member.
A LEADING US international intelligence agency recently published a significant report defining US-Singapore military cooperation and highlighting Singapore as one of the US’ prime regional strategic alliances and recipients of military assistance.
It also highlighted the objective of this cooperation.
Singapore owns the most modern armed forces in this region. With US military cooperation, support and guarantee, Singapore is equipped with the most advanced military equipment in the world.
According to military experts, Singapore’s military buildup is the best in terms of tactical-technological advancement in South East Asia.
The article Singapore’s Military Buildup: US Assists City-State to Improve Defences to Deter China specifically mentions that the continuous modernisation of Singapore’s armed forces is meant to become the key link in the security chain that the US is building around China.
The cooperation is viewed as a move to deter China.
Mark Helprin, an analyst from the Claremont Institute asserts that China is more dangerous than the Soviet Union.
The weakening of the US economically and militarily is giving rise to a new centre of power.
The US economy, mismanaged and drained by its global wars on terrorism, is increasingly dependent on Chinese trade imports and on Chinese holdings of US treasury securities.
China is the biggest preserver of the US dollar with US$825bil (RM3tril) worth.
Princeton University Professor Chris Hedges said if Beijing decided to abandon the US bond market, even in part, it would have a serious effect on the value of the US currency.
Consequently, it would lead to the collapse of the US$7tril (RM25tril) US real estate market, and there would be a wave of US bank failures and huge unemployment.
This psychological threat creates fear in the White House. Thus the buildup of security chains around China is deemed necessary. Japan, Australia, Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia have already taken their place in the anti-China security chain.
Singapore being an advanced and developed country within South East Asian is deemed important in the US deterrence policy towards China.
Singapore’s military spending doubled to US$8bil (RM28bil) in 2008. With such an allocation, its armed force is well positioned to acquire the sophisticated weapons and technologies it needs.
Many strategic analysts believe that with such an arsenal, Singapore is able to destroy enemies on the ground, pre-emptively seize strategic territory and intervene quickly and effectively in Indonesia, Malaysia and other likely trouble spots in the contested South China Sea.
Like Israel, which lacks strategic depth and is outnumbered by potentially hostile neighbours, Singapore’s defence strategy is two-fold: build an offensive-minded security force that can strike at potential enemies before they harm it, and seek the support and protection of the US.
Besides Singapore, the US is also continuously seeking other potential strategic allies in the region like Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.
It is also raising the prospect of a return to Subic Bay in the Philippines.
At present, Singapore allows the US Pacific Naval Command to use its port for repair, replacing the role of Subic Bay which was closed in the 1990s.
Australia and Japan have already entered strong agreement with the US in the anti-China security chain.
US involvement in Singapore’s armed forces has led Singapore to become a big power partner of the US anti-China security policy in the Asia Pacific.
Undeniably, this kind of relationship sidesteps the Asean spirit to remain neutral and free from geo-political intimidation and interference.
Singapore’s effort to modernise its fighting forces, working to better integrate its force with that of the US and Australia and other regional militaries, and being located at one of the world’s most strategic checkpoints – both economically and militarily – will likely see it emerge later as a front-line outpost in the escalating military confrontation between the US and China.
It is time now, for peace loving countries in this region to reject this kind of engagement.
Any process towards war must be blocked by any means. Malaysia should take the lead to mobilise member states of Asean to realise the spirit of non-confrontation and mutual cooperation.
The military policy and strategy that encourage arms race and suspicion must be avoided at all means."--EOQ
pls lah don't fall into the chinese propaganda article......Read your Sec 2 Chinese History of the 7 Warring States.
The first collective security agreement was established against the powerful Qin state. When Qin attack 1 state the rest of the 5 states would send troops to aid. This help to maintain status quo.
Counter this agreement Qin send its embassador to establish suspicous and lead to break up of this agreement.
You can argue that todays Asean is not at war with China. But this is about projection of space and influence and gain support.
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Even if we did go to war.. I don't think our ammunition supply would have enough bullets for each of their soldiers?
Propaganda articles are everywhere and sometimes we don't even realise it.
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Originally posted by XenStar:
Even if we did go to war.. I don't think our ammunition supply would have enough bullets for each of their soldiers?
Propaganda articles are everywhere and sometimes we don't even realise it.
do u mean SG not enough ammo?Ha ha ha....
We more than enough 40 mm grenades sell to UK MOD again and again and again....
ST Engineering's Land Systems Arm Wins Another 40mm Ammunition Contract From UK MOD
We have enough ammo ( i cant tell u here ..),
water (local water enough for about150 days.max capacity 100 days plus local catchment supply half of local demand.)(excluding water in JB)
,men power(NSF average 30,000,Regular 30,000 plus reservists 300,000 )
Total 360,000 vs total population 4.8 million.
oil (abt 90 million barrels= global one day consumption!!)
Global strategic petroleum reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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if we are attacked by unconventional warfares,we will follow!!
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Global strategic petroleum reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Singapore has an SPR composed of 31.8 million barrels (5,060,000 m3) of crude oil with an additional 64.5 million barrels (10,250,000 m3) of oil products for a total of 96.3 million barrels.[41]
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there is at least 200 km2 of land set aside for defene --
camps,training areas,arsenals !! and more.
Where are the arsenals?good questions.But u find out yourself lah..ha ha
This is near yet very far.Just next to u but ...
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
there is at least 200 km2 of land set aside for defene --
camps,training areas,arsenals !! and more.
Where are the arsenals?good questions.But u find out yourself lah..ha ha
This is near yet very far.Just next to u but ...
wao loa......use your brain....what is the best defence??? think.....why do you think China want to exert its influence?Why do you think LKY is still in power?
There are series of questions you have to ask...Its not about guns...you don;t need guns to defence Singapore from China. All you need is just a MATCH stick. or a C4.....
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
do u mean SG not enough ammo?Ha ha ha....
We more than enough 40 mm grenades sell to UK MOD again and again and again....
ST Engineering's Land Systems Arm Wins Another 40mm Ammunition Contract From UK MOD
We have enough ammo ( i cant tell u here ..),
water (local water enough for about150 days.max capacity 100 days plus local catchment supply half of local demand.)(excluding water in JB)
,men power(NSF average 30,000,Regular 30,000 plus reservists 300,000 )
Total 360,000 vs total population 4.8 million.
oil (abt 90 million barrels= global one day consumption!!)
Global strategic petroleum reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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if we are attacked by unconventional warfares,we will follow!!
Joke only la bro! Hahaha! Everyone used to make that joke since Secondary school history class :D
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The Republic of Singapore cannot be trusted by the UNITED STATES
of AMERICA especially in sharing MILITARY TECHNOLOGY.
Singapore should research their own technology not copy from
U.S. Allies.
The U.K. has been allowing the Singaporean army
put commercial interest first over their MILITARY TECHNOLOGY
ADVANTAGE.