Well well well.I hope next SG purchase can include internal weapon carriage.
We cant afford buy billions dollars JSF or F22 ,for political reasons.
u have to be careful for your neighbours' feeling.Right?
But with a little bit more,we can buy one fighters or striker
with LO or very low RCS,like F 15 SE.Internal weapon carriage sure can help.
So,the next version shall be called F 15 SG/SE!!So complicated.
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http://bbs.news.sina.com.cn/tableforum/App/view.php?bbsid=4&subid=2&fid=136437&tbid=8125
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2009/q1/090317a_nr.html
''Improvements in stealth include coatings and treatments on the aircraft. With the added advantage of redesigned conformal fuel tanks (CFTs) that allow for internal weapons carriage, the Silent Eagle becomes a very attractive fighter for Boeing's international customers.
Depending on the specific mission, the customer can use the CFTs that are designed for internal carriage or change back to the traditional CFTs for optimum fuel capacity and external weapons carriage. The Silent Eagle will be able to internally carry air-to-air missiles such as the AIM-9 and AIM-120 and air-to-ground weapons such as the Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and Small Diameter Bomb (SDB). The standard weapons load used on current versions of the F-15 is available with the traditional CFTs installed.''
http://bbs.news.sina.com.cn/tableforum/App/view.php?bbsid=4&subid=2&fid=136437&tbid=8125
more photo here.
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pl read today 9.55 pm post
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2009-03-19/0759545859.html
I like the current version F 15 can be converted to F15 SE!!
I rather they spend the capital trying to build an ion cannon or something,
Have not seen this before.
It will be great for RSAF to upgrade our F15s with similar improved tehnologies such as the CFT like weapons carriage shown.
This is just a mockup, Nothing is flyable. So somebody has to pickup the bill.
The canted vertical stabilizers are meant to reduce the RCS. The current 90 degree angle with the horiztontal stabilizers creates a huge return. By coating the surfaces, the waves get "trapped".
But that is of little use when there are 2 huge air intakes very nice sharp corners. What about the joint from the air intake to the fuselage or the wing to intakes? Not to mention stuff unseen like the intak ramps.
AESA will create a larger return as the entire assembly cannot be turned aside to reduce signature. Like F-16.
So the only thing worth while is the FAST kit. A clean configuration means higher speed or longer loiter time. But the payload looks terrible.
Seems there is a big sacrifice in term of weapons load. The demostrator shows it has very little space for weapons. No more bomb truck role.
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Well well well.I hope next SG purchase can include internal weapon carriage.
We cant afford buy billions dollars JSF or F22 ,for political reasons.
u have to be careful for your neighbours' feeling.Right?
But with a little bit more,we can buy one fighters or striker
with LO or very low RCS,like F 15 SE.Internal weapon carriage sure can help.
So,the next version shall be called F 15 SG/SE!!So complicated.
rubbish. SG's version was originally called the F15/T . the Korean one is known as the F15 slam eagle or F15K. dont trash talk about designations if you dont know them.
we cant afford JSF ? more like you cant afford a brain. go look at the budget and do a third degree approximation of how much military spending goes to procurement.
Singapore has shown interest in possibly buying up to 100 of the stealthy, multi-role F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft over coming decades, said the general in charge of the programme for the Pentagon.
Said Air Force Major-General Charles Davis, the Pentagon’s programme chief: “The Israelis have said they’d take up to 100 aircraft. The Singaporeans have said basically the same thing.” Embassy spokesmen for the two countries had no immediate comment. The world’s most advanced fighter jet, the supersonic F-35 is designed to attack moving targets in any environment.
It uses stealth technology to prevent detection by radar or infrared sensors. Development of the super-fighter was co-financed by Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Norway. Singapore, as a security cooperation participant of the multinational programme, has access to proprietary information, including flight simulations. Israel is currently the only nation involved at this level, one rung down from the nine JSF programme partners.
Singapore’s Ministry of Defence, in a previous comment on the F-35 JSF, said the plane was “a potential candidate” to meet the air force’s “longer-term requirements for a multi-role fighter”. The United States currently plans to buy a total of 2,443 F-35 models. Hundreds of others may be sold overseas to replace a range of fighters, including Lockheed Martin F-16s and Boeing F-18s. It is the costliest US arms programme ever at a projected US$299 billion (S$407 billion). The conventional version is projected to cost about US$68 million a piece. ~ AGENCIES
WASHINGTON: The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which Singapore has reportedly expressed interest in purchasing 100 in quantity, is expected to be the world’s premier strike aircraft through 2040. The stealthy F-35 Lightning II, as it is called, will redefine the concept of multi-role strike aircraft.
It is the first-ever aircraft designed to replace four existing aircraft from three US services. These are operational fighters such as the US Air Force’s F-16 Fighting Falcon and the “tank-killing” A-10 Thunderbolt, the US Navy and Marine Corps’ F-18 Hornet and the Marines’ AV-8 Harrier “jump jet”. In addition to stealth, speed and manoeuvreability, the fifth-generation F-35 has increased range and carries a greater payload than the fighters it is replacing. It is able to simultaneously fight at least eight enemy planes and, at the same time, lock-on to as many as 16 enemy ground targets. Also, it can track literally hundreds of targets for 360 degrees and at tracking distances that far exceed the distances of existing fighter aircraft.
The multi-role, all-weather day-and-night fighter and attack air system is designed to operate as a Short Take-off and Vertically Land (STOVL) aircraft from land bases and from the next generation of aircraft carriers. Its new AIM-9X air-to-air missile can perform high off-boresight shots without turning the aircraft’s nose towards the target. Its Aesa radar allows the aircraft to invade, blind or fool enemy sensors and radar at ranges of up to hundreds of kilometres. The JSF will take on the mission of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.
A fleet of F-35s will be able to conduct missions deep into enemy territory to take advantage of physics, by being nearer the targets, while deepening the areas of surveillance. The F-35 Lightning II’s first successful flight was in December 2006. The pilots who fly the super-fighter have nothing but accolades for the aircraft. Said Lockheed Martin’s chief test pilot Jon Beesley: “This is the plane that, because of its stealth, will be able to go in and kick down the door on the first day of a war.” ~ AGENCIES
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But that is of little use when there are 2 huge air intakes very nice sharp corners. What about the joint from the air intake to the fuselage or the wing to intakes? Not to mention stuff unseen like the intak ramps.
AESA will create a larger return as the entire assembly cannot be turned aside to reduce signature. Like F-16.
You are probably right.
But the good people at Boeing will probably do more to mitigate what you mentioned since like u said , it is only a mock up and a lot more work needs to be done shud someone be interested in a less massive radar signature for the F15.
has MOD deledted two photo?
波音推出内置弹舱型F-15SE战机 �价1亿美元(
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''The aircraft's canted vertical tails improve aerodynamic efficiency, provide lift, and reduce airframe weight.''
''Depending on the specific mission, the customer can use the CFTs that are designed for internal carriage or change back to the traditional CFTs for optimum fuel capacity and external weapons carriage. The Silent Eagle will be able to internally carry air-to-air missiles such as the AIM-9 and AIM-120 and air-to-ground weapons such as the Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and Small Diameter Bomb (SDB). The standard weapons load used on current versions of the F-15 is available with the traditional CFTs installed.''
sources
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/
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HD photo--dunt delete lah...
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2009-03-19/0759545859.html
I like the current version F 15 can be converted to F15 SE!!
This news quoted Russia news ,which quoted Boeing spokeman said--
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Boeing spokesperson Blyde · Jones introduced that developed F-15SE the goal is to cater to the overseas customer to the stealth technology demand, but, this time promoted the prototype has not smudged the stealth coating. He indicated that extant F-15 “the attack hawk” the fighter aircraft may through the replacement system-related promotion be F-15SE.   Jones pointed out that puts up F-15SE every time “the silent hawk” the price approximately is $100,000,000 US dollars, the Boeing hoped this machine final order form quantity can achieve 190. The Boeing already Singapore, South Korea, Israel and Saudi Arabia will determine for the target market.--
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt translation
Originally posted by lionnoisy:http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2009-03-19/0759545859.html
I like the current version F 15 can be converted to F15 SE!!
This news quoted Russia news ,which quoted Boeing spokeman said--
波音公å�¸å�‘言人布莱德·ç�¼æ–¯ä»‹ç»�è¯´ï¼Œç ”åˆ¶F-15SE的目的是为了迎å�ˆå›½å¤–客户对éš�形技术的需求,ä¸�过,这次推出的原型机并未涂抹éš�形涂料。他表示,现å˜çš„F-15“攻击鹰”战斗机å�‡å�¯é€šè¿‡æ›´æ�¢ç›¸å…³ç³»ç»Ÿå�‡çº§ä¸ºF-15SE。
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Boeing spokesperson Blyde · Jones introduced that developed F-15SE the goal is to cater to the overseas customer to the stealth technology demand, but, this time promoted the prototype has not smudged the stealth coating. He indicated that extant F-15 “the attack hawk” the fighter aircraft may through the replacement system-related promotion be F-15SE.   Jones pointed out that puts up F-15SE every time “the silent hawk” the price approximately is $100,000,000 US dollars, the Boeing hoped this machine final order form quantity can achieve 190. The Boeing already Singapore, South Korea, Israel and Saudi Arabia will determine for the target market.--
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt translation
im glad to see in globalized world, american salesman speaking chinese to a russian reporter.
since when the russia become part of the PRC ?
or is some lion so desperate for info he has to use 3rd degree sources ? lol.. .
trust our ST to zhng our aircrafts..
Originally posted by stellazio:trust our ST to zhng our aircrafts..
ST intergerates them.
trust DSTA to work out the software and the mexican brothers to churn out the hardware.
http://www.slideshare.net/TheDEWLine/silent-eagle-media-briefdoc?type=powerpoint
View more presentations from TheDEWLine.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/03/f-15-silent-eagle-media-briefi.html
oh !
F 15 SG is a stepping stone to improved technology!!
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/03/f-15-silent-eagle-media-briefi.html
did anyone tell you that, you made a very interesting topic boring?
history of F 15 is here,frim Janes
Eagle vs Hornet - Boeing's fighters square off for remaining orders
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/03/sneak-peek-next-weeks-flight-c.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/03/f-15-silent-eagle-media-briefi.html
Boeing F-15SE: The Movie----before and after of opening the storage
Originally posted by sgstars:
irrelevant posting,but cue lah...
Originally posted by lionnoisy:irrelevant posting,but cue lah...
glad to see the effort i put into these appreciated
nice right ? please dont feed the lion, it will just become more attention-seeking
u dunt feed me.Then i eat the meat lah....ha ha
I am happy that there is potential F 15 can do part of the jobs of JSF and
the ill fated F22.
Now it has one more role--to shoot ballistic missiles.
''Flight International reports that Lockheed is proposing a $137 million program to adapt its Patriot PAC-3 surface-to-air missiles for use on the USAF’s F-15C Eagle air superiority fighters. The missiles would reportedly be used to help the fighters kill ballistic missiles during the boost phase or mid-course phase, instead of hoping for a Patriot’s usual final phase intercept. Patriot PAC-3 missiles also have significantly longer range than the AIM-120 AMRAAM, creating the potential for wider coverage against cruise missiles and other aerial threats. In order to use an AIM-104 Patriot air-launched hit-to-kill (ALHTK) effectively, however, the F-15s would need to add IRST capability to track enemy missiles outside the atmosphere.''
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/