ADA RBS 70
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Isn't it about time they replaced the RBS 70 with something more lethal and effective. Its old, its slow and you'll need a clear line of sight in order to engage.
And unlike fire and forget missiles, the RBS 70 requires the gunner to track the target to guide the missile to within 30m of it.
This takes alot of skill and conscripts lack the motivation to actually hone their gunnery skills.
The only good thing about it, is that its almost impossible to jam it since it laser guided.
Whats your take?
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E Rayrider is under going upgrades 2 serve for another 5 years after tat they will be phased out
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The optical tracking is the backup mode in case the aircraft employs counter measures against the tracking radar I think.
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Originally posted by Shotgun:
The optical tracking is the backup mode in case the aircraft employs counter measures against the tracking radar I think.
Optical tracking and CLOS is currently the only way use to engage hostiles, the missile is guided by inputs from the gunner. I believe the radar you mentioned would be the Ericsson Giraffe.
Due to our location there is heavy cloud cover most of the time. And when it rains, visibility really drops by alot. Singapore skyline is really bright at night through night vision, however i'm guessing that the gunners are counting on a blackout when the time comes where they would have to mount their night sight on the system.
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Sorry, but aren't we pretty messed up already, by time we actually need to deploy a RBS70 ???
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Originally posted by gd4u:
Sorry, but aren't we pretty messed up already, by time we actually need to deploy a RBS70 ???
True, but SHORAD doesn't apply to just deployment in Singapore itself.
The RBS system used here is also mounted on v200s and not forgetting m113 ultra and their IGLAs. Which probably means mobile air defence for our armour in a combined arms concept
Its no secret that at the DA's are named after the div they are attached to. So 3da = 3rd div, 6da = 6div, 9da = 9div etc, so on. So now... 18da would be??
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Despite Igla and RBS fitted on armour, they are still fairly limited by their own missile range. It does gives the CAD a capability to take out oncoming aerial targets. But would it still be too late to take out a hostile aircraft within that range?
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it has a different role to play.. the one meant for taking out aircrafts is the ihawk..
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Unless u are telling me about UAVs and non-attack helos ...
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Paiseh, I got confused with the Rapier. Hahah!
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Our RBS 70s are employed mainly to protect forward deployed ground forces. Thats the reason why many are mounted on V200s to give them mobility.
Although the RBS 70 is a relatively older SHORAD the fact remains that it is still in in many armed forces. It is testament to its effectiveness. The missile itself has gone thru several updates which make it more lethal and also increases its effective target envelope.
It is an all aspect missile although new IR and IIR SAMs are also all aspect - however being a beam rider, it is more difficult to decoy. Also, downside is that it is dependent on the skill and nerve of the gunner. If our conscript is not motivated , then our National Education program and his officers are not doing their job.
RBS 70 is part of a very varied SAF SHORAD system. With Iglas, Rapiers, RBS 70s, Mistrals, 35 mm guns using IR, optical and different radar systems for missile guidance, an enemy air force will face immense problems beating a SHORAD system employed by SAF.
What needs replacement is the I HAWK . Again , it is a excellent medium range SAM , but is a bit long in the tooth. As mentioned elsewhere in this forum, there is probably already a replacement in place.
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Originally posted by Sepecat:
Our RBS 70s are employed mainly to protect forward deployed ground forces. Thats the reason why many are mounted on V200s to give them mobility.
Although the RBS 70 is a relatively older SHORAD the fact remains that it is still in in many armed forces. It is testament to its effectiveness. The missile itself has gone thru several updates which make it more lethal and also increases its effective target envelope.
It is an all aspect missile although new IR and IIR SAMs are also all aspect - however being a beam rider, it is more difficult to decoy. Also, downside is that it is dependent on the skill and nerve of the gunner. If our conscript is not motivated , then our National Education program and his officers are not doing their job.
RBS 70 is part of a very varied SAF SHORAD system. With Iglas, Rapiers, RBS 70s, Mistrals, 35 mm guns using IR, optical and different radar systems for missile guidance, an enemy air force will face immense problems beating a SHORAD system employed by SAF.
What needs replacement is the I HAWK . Again , it is a excellent medium range SAM , but is a bit long in the tooth. As mentioned elsewhere in this forum, there is probably already a replacement in place.
what version is our RBS70 anyway? I'm guessing mk2? I didn't really bother to take a good look at it for 2 years
They should get the new bolide missiles instead of changing the entire weapon system. This way reservists are able to use the new missiles too
"If our conscript is not motivated , then our National Education program and his officers are not doing their job."
During the NE program conducted in all units, everyone was thinking how to secure an early release that day..
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Originally posted by Don©:
Isn't it about time they replaced the RBS 70 with something more lethal and effective. Its old, its slow and you'll need a clear line of sight in order to engage.
And unlike fire and forget missiles, the RBS 70 requires the gunner to track the target to guide the missile to within 30m of it.
This takes alot of skill and conscripts lack the motivation to actually hone their gunnery skills.
The only good thing about it, is that its almost impossible to jam it since it laser guided.
Whats your take?
old..??
Unfortunately,this is the only land based AA stuff in Australia.
so,wat can u suggest to oz?
Crapping thread for the crappers and the crap.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/329569
Oz latest RBS--70(Bolide)---8 km range,
a ceiling of about 4.5km (15,000ft).
''Mike Wilkins (Saab Systems), Ross Erickson (DMO) and
LTCOL Inger Lawes (16 AD Regt) inspecting the new hardware.
Photo by: 16 AD Regt''http://www.army.gov.au/RRAA/default.htm
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsd/land19/land19.cfm
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/jobs/OperatorGroundBasedAirDefence/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapier_missile
https://16airdefence.org/Unit%20History.html
the operator of RBS --70
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapier_missile