It is interesting to know that MY established a huge Commando camp,
The size is two third of Changi Airport,100 km from SG.
This is called Iskandar Military Camp,about 15 km south of Mersing,JB.
Any country has her right to put army camp.Right?
So no need to be suprised.just accept the fact.
SG also get camps within 20 km from Causeway.Right?
U may want to know that MY is going to close down a small camp,
Majidee Camp,for property development!!
just about 8 km from Causeway.
Pl think carefully before u type.
I dunt want this thread banned!!
jmmm
http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=22622
http://militarynuts.com/index.php?showtopic=1019&st=30
http://www.bt.com.bn/en/home_news/2008/05/08/hm_visits_iskandar_military_camp
Royal inspection: His Majesty the Sultan and Yang Di-Pertuan of Brunei Darussalam inspects the guard of honour mounted by the Malaysian Special Force Group (Gerup Gerak Khas) at the Iskandar Military Camp in Mersing, Johor. The monarch's two-day working visit to Malaysia ended yesterday. Picture: Bernama
Located 15km south of Mersing, the camp itself covers an area of about 2,000 acres or 8.1 square km. Housing 200 buildings, three bridges, a harbour, landing pads and parade squares, the military camp has about 20km of roads running through it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_Gerup_Gerak_Khas
http://rockybru.com.my/2008/05/our-enemies-within.html?showComment=1211947800000
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=3115&page=2&pp=15
I think they will be happy to share this facility with us. Lionnoisy, please make the necessary enquiries.
We will reciprocate & open up Tekong for them to use. It will make sense in these hard economic times to ensure all facilities on both sides of the causeway are 100 % utilised. Imagine what this will do to enhance bilateral ties.
I don't think singapore has a choice where to locate its military camps or airbases. Even if you squeeze it at the most southern edge of sentosa, you could still say its 50 clicks from the causeway.
Well within striking range of RSAF's current strike inventory.
Any more questions?
Originally posted by Shotgun:Well within striking range of RSAF's current strike inventory.
Any more questions?
a few ATACMs from the HIMMARS would be quite enough too, no ? .... aviation fuel's expensive ....
Originally posted by Shotgun:Well within striking range of RSAF's current strike inventory.
Any more questions?
Dear Mod,
I have said:
Pl think carefully before u type.
I dunt want this thread banned!!--U are the one to say not--so--senisible
stuff!!
2.Pl restraint to say attack ,invade etc words!!
Originally posted by Fatum:a few ATACMs from the HIMMARS would be quite enough too, no ? .... aviation fuel's expensive ....
Why did u mention High Mobility Rocket Artillery Systems from MY?
Shall I mention same stuff of SG?
Pl dunt talk anymore about attacking related topics!!
HIMRAS is not everything.
Haig Road market's satay damn sedap man.
An F-15 flight hour cost ~US$8,000. Even factor in 7,000 litre of fuel use (let's say it use afterburner), also add $14,000 at most (assuming super expensive US$2 per litre, US sold Israel JP-8 @ less than US$0.60-1.3 per litre). Then add 6 GBU-10s or JDAMs at US$50,000 each = $300,000. Total cost = US$322,000 for 12,000lbs of tritonal delivered.
Each ATACMs cost US$1+m each and only has a 250lb warhead. That's why SG went for the M31 pod which has 6 rockets instead (each rocket probably cost ~US$1XXk).
Watch impact of GBU-10s explode on targets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qMm7SY9h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BPJeupKcIE
F-15K bomb demos with JDAMs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3OMA743r40&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkrAMu1PcnY&feature=related
Originally posted by lionnoisy:Why did u mention High Mobility Rocket Artillery Systems from MY?
Shall I mention same stuff of SG?
Pl dunt talk anymore about attacking related topics!!
HIMRAS is not everything.
from MY ? ...
what have you been smoking ? ....
Originally posted by lionnoisy:Dear Mod,
I have said:
Pl think carefully before u type.
I dunt want this thread banned!!--U are the one to say not--so--senisible
stuff!!
2.Pl restraint to say attack ,invade etc words!!
Yes, Sire.
I can't believe Lionnoisy has pulled a number on me!
What's the point of this thread?
Originally posted by Fatum:from MY ? ...
what have you been smoking ? ....
oh i am sorry.i am wrong.
2.anyone is interesting to search for the used missiles here---
http://www.marine.gov.my/service/notice/notice/ntm2007/nmtm23(t)2007.pdf
Mariners are advised that Royal Malaysian Army will be conducting ASTROS II -
Multi Rocket Launching System firing exercise at Off Coast Perak, Malacca Strait.
The details of the exercise are as follows:-
Date : 13 and 16 June 2007
Local Times : 0900 hours till 1300 hours
Launching site : 04° 20’ 47” N 100° 34’ 35” E
The targeted area is bounded by the following coordinates:
1. 04° 53’ 18” N 100° 05’ 48” E
2. 04° 13’ 57” N 100° 16’ 52” E
3. 04° 36’ 37” N 099° 41’ 34” E
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even the price of scrap metal falls,we can sell the missiles to some collectors!!
The location of target is SSW 48 km of Penang and 35 km from MY west coast.
Google tell me the firing range is about 80 km!! Wow!!
SG is always behind MY to buy major platforms--
MBT(MY get new,SG get old one)
frigates
fighters(training in USA in the initial years)
MLRS(MY signed contract in 2000.SG 2007?)
Sub(MY buy new,SG buy old sub)
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where can u find This kind of neighbours ?
Originally posted by slim10:An F-15 flight hour cost ~US$8,000. Even factor in 7,000 litre of fuel use (let's say it use afterburner), also add $14,000 at most (assuming super expensive US$2 per litre, US sold Israel JP-8 @ less than US$0.60-1.3 per litre). Then add 6 GBU-10s or JDAMs at US$50,000 each = $300,000. Total cost = US$322,000 for 12,000lbs of tritonal delivered.
Each ATACMs cost US$1+m each and only has a 250lb warhead. That's why SG went for the M31 pod which has 6 rockets instead (each rocket probably cost ~US$1XXk).
Watch impact of GBU-10s explode on targets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qMm7SY9h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BPJeupKcIE
F-15K bomb demos with JDAMs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3OMA743r40&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkrAMu1PcnY&feature=related
pl think again if this post is ok?
I dunt think so!!I said dunt mention attack ,invade etc.....lah
My watch is running 2 seconds fast per day. It's still within COSC specs, though.
Ooooooohhhhh!!!! I'm sure the JID is soooooo grateful for lionnoisy for uncovering such precious information!!! MINDEF must be dying to present the Distinguished Service Medal to you!
Actually, if one looks at my earlier post, one would note that none of the words/phrase:
"attack", "invade", "etc" nor "lah" appears.
Having said that, I have posted the words "attack, invade, etc, lah" many times as a consequence in this post which basically rebuts the presumption that these should not be mentioned.
Just highlighting a fact that ATACMs are more expensive than a F-15 sortie with 6 GBUs or JDAMs. It is incorrect to read it as "attack, invade anyone".
So to conclude, I would say let's invade Malaysia with new year greetings and attack anyone who refuses to be polite. Lah, etc.
ah.. the noisy lion has come back.
Burn the heretic, Kill the Mutant, Purge the unclean.
big deal.
why complain about commando camp in Mersing ? when there's an air defence camp some 10km away from the causeway ? why raise the issue of an commando camp near singapore if you do not wish to imply a country vs country scenario ?
think you can flout forum rules by running along the edges eh ? sorry lionnoisy. no one believes in your mindless dogma anymore.
in air defence term of distances, thats like literally a pebble's throw away. if malaysia ever decided to base a bunch of decent sams with tracker radar there, Tengah airbase aircraft are screwed.
and our E2Cs, the crown jewel in our air force , are based there. how now ?
country vs country scenario again lionnoisy ? i thought we've been through this before ? whatever's the case, you are up to no good
+1 attention to mods, lionnoisy acting funny again.
The sap from trees plays merry hell on cars' paintwork - make sure you wax properly.
Originally posted by sgstars:ah.. the noisy lion has come back.
Burn the heretic, Kill the Mutant, Purge the unclean.
big deal.
why complain about commando camp in Mersing ? when there's an air defence camp some 10km away from the causeway ? why raise the issue of an commando camp near singapore if you do not wish to imply a country vs country scenario ?
think you can flout forum rules by running along the edges eh ? sorry lionnoisy. no one believes in your mindless dogma anymore.
in air defence term of distances, thats like literally a pebble's throw away. if malaysia ever decided to base a bunch of decent sams with tracker radar there, Tengah airbase aircraft are screwed.
and our E2Cs, the crown jewel in our air force , are based there. how now ?
country vs country scenario again lionnoisy ? i thought we've been through this before ? whatever's the case, you are up to no good
+1 attention to mods, lionnoisy acting funny again.
Happy New Year!!
Did i complain abt the Camp?Did MOD stop me or warn me?NO!!
The topics is perfect,until someone screw it up later!!
THe choice of location is still a mystery
I say MY has every right to position the Camp,just like SG has her right
to place her camps.West MY measure about 700 km (North to south)x 300 km(the widest).
Why did MY put the camp 100 km north of SG?
SG is just abt 60 x 40 km,with little choice of locations lah..
The armoured camp,with swimming APC,is also near the boarder.
We are told we cant hold since young
sgstars said:
in air defence term of distances, thats like literally a pebble's throw away. if malaysia ever decided to base a bunch of decent sams with tracker radar there, Tengah airbase aircraft are screwed.
and our E2Cs, the crown jewel in our air force , are based there. how now ?
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We get a very serious problems here.Many Singaporeans have been told
since young that we cant hold any conflicts.Those told them
did not bother to read or cant read.
I am not able to answer the questions like sgstars just raise.
I dunt think MINDEF just pay the high brass without asking then to roll
out any plans.
The defenseless perception may be one of the reasons make people mirgrate!!
Originally posted by lionnoisy:The defenseless perception may be one of the reasons make people mirgrate!!
Wrong. The strong incentive to avoid being associated with flaming morons like you is the reason people migrate.
SG is always behind MY to buy major platforms--
MBT(MY get new,SG get old one)
frigates
fighters(training in USA in the initial years)
MLRS(MY signed contract in 2000.SG 2007?)
Sub(MY buy new,SG buy old sub)
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where can u find This kind of neighbours ?
Why compared ???
MY Armed Forces isn't the technically the strongest armed forces in Asean...
it juz happen that they have the long coast line facing the straits of malacca...
For MBT,so what if MY got the new,first hand equipment ??? In the end if we square off against each other,i dun believe in new stuffs can win over 2nd hand stuff,what i believe in the efficient of our SARs to give our boys the training to have the edge over then enemy.
For fighter jets,hello !!!! Take off from either one of the air bases,10 mins later u are in their airspace,how to train in SG??? MY have a lot of airspace to play abt,so be it. Of cuz must train in US,Australia or France. RSAF participated in Red Flag,our boys also gave their Top Gun a run for their money. You must not forget we have the F15-SG,the lastest variant in the F15 family. 101 proven air combat victories and 0 downed.
Why the big hooha abt MLRS,we signed it late cuz we are really sure that is what we want. U tink any Tom, Dick or Harry can buy wan ar ???
Submarines - Look at my post on MBTs,shall not waste anybody time in reading...
lol. Sometimes better to be behind.
SG's MBT may be older but cheaper and better (upgradable, better armour protection, superior munitions etc) and twice the number.
SG's frigates may have been ordered later but delivered earlier with superior missiles, LO tech and reliability.
Fighters may train in the US for the initial years but they get the best training and they can be redeployed when needed.
SG's MLRS may enter service later but pack a bigger and more accurate punch.
SG's subs may be older but in these littoral waters, sensor detection is equally bad. They also outnumber MY's subs 3 to 1 (and overall still cost far cheaper) and have upgraded electronics and scopes.
This type of neighbour, best kind. Bully come, get neighbour to fight.
let's ignore him! I think he did not gone thru NS like us! So he won't understand.
Oel! lionnoisy wake up your F***ing ideal lah! is very annoying! everytime compare here compare there! YOU CHILDISH MORONS.