US look for Improved Carbine & Subcompact Ind. Weapon Sys
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At last.US Army looks for replacement of M4 carbine
and a ''Subcompact Individual Weapon System''.
So,i can bet that SAR 21 will be tabled to US Army,
through
Vision Technologies Kinetics, Inc. (VT Kinetics)
what is the chance,guys?
http://www.stengg.com/aboutus/company_detail.aspx?cylid=0&cyid=87
https://www.fbo.gov/index?tab=core&s=opportunity&mode=form&id=62f58fab956f5f9ed42d31cb98fea3f8
Improved Carbine and Subcompact Individual Weapon System
Solicitation Number: W52H0908CARBINESVAgency: Department of the Army
Office: U. S. Army Materiel Command
Location: U.S. Army TACOM Life Cycle Management Command - Rock Island@@The process will take long.But it really worths waiting for?Synopsis:Added: Aug 22, 2008 9:17 amThe Army is in the process of assessing the state of the art in small arms technologies and how these technologies can potentially provide the best weapon system(s) for our Soldiers. To that end, the Program Manager for Soldier Weapons (PM SW) Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07860-5000, on behalf of the Program Executive Office Soldier, Fort Belvoir, VA 22060-5422, is assessing the enhanced carbine and subcompact small arms technologies as well as production capacity of the US small arms industrial base. This effort may be formally initiated in late 2009 with a competitive solicitation. To facilitate planning for this pending solicitation, the following information is requested:
o Performance Improvement. Request information on potential improvements in individual weapon performance in the areas of accuracy and dispersion out to 600m, reliability and durability in all environments, modularity, and terminal performance on a variety of target mediums. Modularity includes, but is not limited to, compatibility with accessory items such as optical sights, image intensification sights, thermal sights, laser targeting systems, bipods, tactical lights, MILES, bayonets, and accessory type grenade launchers. There is specific interest in improvements to zero retention and zero repeatability. Note: Although this request for information is not limited to 5.56mm NATO systems, it is limited to ammunition that will meet International Convention standards.
o Production capacity estimates. Request information on minimum and maximum monthly production rates for a military carbine and/or subcompact individual weapon, and the lead times to achieve these production rates. This estimate should consider a US based production facility by the third year of deliveries. This capacity should be above and beyond any current production orders or current sales. If new facilities are planned or required, so state.
o Detailed descriptions of proposed weapon systems to include engineering drawings, pictures, brochures, etc. that will convey the principles as well as general and specific capabilities behind the submissions.
o Summarized and detailed test data from any certified test facility that addresses improvements in the areas proposed. Test operating procedures utilized and independent evaluations are also solicited.
o All respondents to this RFI will get an invitation to an Industry Day to be conducted in the fall of 2008. Specific date and time will be announced in the aforementioned invitation.
Interested offerors should submit the information annotated above, in hard copy, by 16 Sep 2008 to: U.S. Army TACOM LCMC, Acquisition Center, AMSTA-LC-WSC-C, Bldg 110, Attn: Bob Egan, Rock Island Arsenal, IL 61299-7630. Electronic submissions may be sent to [email protected]. Submissions shall not exceed 25 pages (8 x 11 inches), not including test data. Font shall be 12 pitch with one inch borders. All information is to be submitted at no cost or obligation to the Government. All information marked {Proprietary to company name} will not be disclosed outside of the Department of Defense. No telephone inquiries will be accepted. The documentation provided will not be returned. This is a sources sought notice only. It is for planning purposes only and should not be construed as a Request for Proposal or a commitment by the United States of America.mmm
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There is no subcompact individual variant of the SAR-21, the closet thing we have the the SAR-21 LW Carbine.
But it is easily ourclassed by the microTavor (which has gained airtime in FutureWeapons) as well as other modular weapons in the class.
So what's the chance?
It's going to be a hard sell, maybe unless ST slash prices and advertise the SAR-21 as a inferior, but cheap alternative to the other weapons.
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Compact Personal Weapon
this is displayed 2 years ago.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/308071
1.
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=399
the bottom 2 displayed in open house 2006.
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/puzzylion/th_compactspe.jpg
Compact Personal Weapon
2.SAR light weight carbine
http://www.stengg.com/upload/805FZ25kCHnhWIBPg9K.pdf
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/208699
http://www.stengg.com/upload/915fGdhTi3ggnnGQGGL.pdf
what is the logo above ST Kinetics Logo?
Aerospace 2006
2 postshttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/puzzylion2/PICT0050.jpg
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maybe we should get STK to form a lobby group in the US and push for our products. its not like we dont know about greasing palms. its a dirty business.
or better still , why dont we export lionnoisy ? our certified ultimate procurement solution : the guru who knows everything and absolutely anything to do with singaporean defence systems. who cant see beyond the benefits of our gear.
STK will become the market leader overnight. and STK stock prices will go through the roof. good for temasek.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
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Compact Personal Weapon
this is displayed 2 years ago.
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/308071
1.
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=399
the bottom 2 displayed in open house 2006.
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/puzzylion/th_compactspe.jpg
Compact Personal Weapon
2.SAR light weight carbine
http://www.stengg.com/upload/805FZ25kCHnhWIBPg9K.pdf
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1164/topics/208699
http://www.stengg.com/upload/915fGdhTi3ggnnGQGGL.pdf
what is the logo above ST Kinetics Logo?
Aerospace 2006
2 postshttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/puzzylion2/PICT0050.jpg
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it looks like a copy of a H&K PDW... cant remember the official designation
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Personally, doubt the US Army will go for SAR21. Probably the US Police SWAT teams etc will, but SF community and general grunt issue...probably not. Its due to the bullpup nature of the SAR21. Contenders are probably the HK G36c/k, HK 416 and FN SCAR.
Subcompact weapon...I don't see whats wrong with the current MP5K,MP7 or FN P90.Especially so for the MP7 and P90 which are relatively new on the scene.
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Sigh...you need to brush up on your comprehension skills. What have you learnt during those 10 years in primary and secondary school? Go backed to the thread and read carefully.
10 marks question.
Thread locked anyway. Please post in the dedicated thread.