A 4 Skyhawk
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saw some skyhawk when I went to the open hse, just wondering can they be reactivated during time of war, they may not possess the advance system that F-16c/d has , but in time of war , having more asset still better right
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Our A4s are also decommissioned. The only operational ones are the trainer aircrafts in France. So if war breaks out I think that unless it hasnt yet been decommed, it wont be in use. Just fyi, the rsaf is gonna buy a new jet trainer; either the T50 or the Marchetti something.
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our fighter pilot trainees in france will fly loh!
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Originally posted by bloodsucker:
Our A4s are also decommissioned. The only operational ones are the trainer aircrafts in France. So if war breaks out I think that unless it hasnt yet been decommed, it wont be in use. Just fyi, the rsaf is gonna buy a new jet trainer; either the T50 or the Marchetti something.
Those in France also retired liao , A4 mostly relegated to trainer duty , brazil Israel cos they are too old
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The A4s in France should still be flying. They will be replaced by the new trainer a/c that the RSAF is evaluating.... the T-50?
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U mean keep in storage, well it is likely wat e RSAF had done
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the hueys are kept in storage too rite?
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Old planes can be used for training unless you want to use them planes against countries like Brunei or the Vatican....here we go again
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Brunei? lol... We have as much chance of going into war with Brunei as USA have agst Britain....
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The A4s will be replaced by a new generation advanced jet trainer. No point keeping obsolescent A4 aircraft as they will be ineffective in any conflict - unless you choose to use them against pirates.
Anyway the A4s are very near the end ( if not already beyond ) of their airframe life.
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I beg to different, e A-4 can still be effective in certain cases ie
1) When both airforces run out of useable aircraft due 2 heavy losses
2) When we have total control of e skies but does not have enough aircraft 2 support ground forces due 2 losses
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I agree with your number 2 but number 1 means more losses
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Sure, A4 can anyhow deploy.... but got skilled pilots to spare anot??
anyhow throw already rare pilots into flying free-frags... someone get KiraYamato100 in here... =p
anyway, if RAF is even considering deploying A4s in combat now, a ceasefire would have been a much much better options... not that they would stop defending sg though...
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Not really free frags. U noe our northern neighbours (wont say who
) the planes arent exactly the best in the world? LOL. Once we decimate their air force, there's nthg left to stop up from blasting them right? The A4 can still be used to do ground attack missions if there really arent enough planes to do it, but which I doubt so. The F-15SGs and F-16Ds are more than capable of that. -
Our A-4s are the only supersonic A-4s in the world.
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We may have the air frames, and even if they are serviceable, I think most of the pilots won't know how to fly it.
Currency in operational aircraft is very important. I hardly think the F-16 pilots would be familiar in the A-4 Cockpit.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Our A-4s are the only supersonic A-4s in the world.
Not to mention that we are the 1st to add that ugly WSO cockpit behind the pilot
The 2nd bubble isnt meant to be there. Not only the A4s, we zhng our F-5s like hell also 
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Originally posted by Shotgun:
We may have the air frames, and even if they are serviceable, I think most of the pilots won't know how to fly it.
Currency in operational aircraft is very important. I hardly think the F-16 pilots would be familiar in the A-4 Cockpit.
Nah we can always get the 'older' pilots to fly em. The A4 was decommed not long ago only. One of my flight instructors last time was an A4 pilot, and he's very young. Maybe 31 or 32 only. Still got plenty of fight left in him. And u forgot the advanced jet trainer instructors. All are current A4 pilots. Still at the top of their game.
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Or we can pluck them off their stands at paya lebah AFB there...
Don't think there's any question wif it's airworthness, but battle-wise, how much opposition/force can A4s provide in combat now... Let's, and just let's say, we're boxed in sg, limited fuel/ammo/parts/etc... if we fly A4s, chances are that they would substain more losses, more damages. Which means more engineers/pilots/resources taken away that would otherwise be used to upkeep our main fighters...
can la~ but is RSAF willing to take that risk? would that strategy smart?, long-term wise?
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use the A4's for what.. jsut don't decomm the F5's la..isnt that better?
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Originally posted by bloodsucker:
Not to mention that we are the 1st to add that ugly WSO cockpit behind the pilot
The 2nd bubble isnt meant to be there. Not only the A4s, we zhng our F-5s like hell also
I think the F-20 Tigershark is cool.....like the A-4SU, its basically a zhng F-5 with 1 X F404, zhng the same way as the A-4SU. -
I think if SG have the space to keeps any planes, they should. The A4s could be used as trainers or ground attack planes if there should be a war.
Btw i don't think we can sell them out, at best just scrap their metal to reuse, what a waste.
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Originally posted by crimsontactics:
I think if SG have the space to keeps any planes, they should. The A4s could be used as trainers or ground attack planes if there should be a war.
Btw i don't think we can sell them out, at best just scrap their metal to reuse, what a waste.
we don't..thats why we couldnt even keep our old f16s and rfs..
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Originally posted by stellazio:
we don't..thats why we couldnt even keep our old f16s and rfs..
Then while can't do much but to scrape or sell them. Btw such planes shouldn't be too much of a lost.
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We would if we have a Davis-Monthan Air Base.